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Why Shia Say (a.s) After The Names Of Imams (a.s)?

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(salam)

(bismillah)

Surah Yasin Ayat No. 1

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Ya Seen.

Every one knows that Prophet (pbuh) has been called Yasin by Quran. This is one of the name of Prophet (pbuh). Now see what Surah Saf'at Ayat No. 130 says.

ÓóáóÇãñ Úóáóìٰ Åöáú íóÇÓöíäó

Which means "Salam on Aal-e-Yaseen" (Salam on Aal of Prophet (pbuh). When Quran says (a.s) for Aal of Prophet (pbuh) then why Sunnis object us on saying (a.s) after the names of Imams (a.s)?

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I think this is a reaction to shias using that term rather than it being wrong to use per se. It's been said that Bukhari used that term as well, and this thread provides some more details:

http://www.yanabi.com/index.php?/topic/353945-is-it-permissible-to-say-alaihi-salam-after-the-names-of-ahle-bayt/

Edited by Vigilare

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alaikom salam

thanks for the info..

Real Sunni Imams also said "alayhissalam" or for plural "alayhimossalam" for the twelve imams.. It's the ones who tried to cause discord among muslims stressing on such topics and claiming such sayings are wrong.. the link that Vigilare shared explains a lot..

Just to add, on reading Razi's Tafsir (Tafsir al-Kabir) Maidah 54-55-56 verses (Turkish Translation).. I saw a footnote (translater's note) saying; "we sunnis don't say (a.s) for Imams, he (Razi) sould have known that. Why did he do that?".. So, some radicals claiming to be sunnis, trying to teach their imams how to be sunnis.. Crazy..

In conclusion, Shias and some Sunnis following their true leaders say (a.s) when they mention the twelve Imams of Muslims inshaAllah

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I think it is stupid that Sunnis say R.A. after Ali's name...We already know Allah is pleased with him....

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That ayah says "Salamun 'ala ilyasin". This view is backed up by the fact that previous and the ayaat that come after consist of "Salams" being send upon prophets/messengers.

And verily, Iliyâs (Elias) was one of the Messengers (123) When he said to his people: "Will you not fear Allâh? (124) "Will you call upon Ba'l (a well- known idol of his nation whom they used to worship) and forsake the Best of creators, (125) "Allâh, your Lord and the Lord of your forefathers?" (126) But they denied him [iliyâs (Elias)], so they will certainly be brought forth (to the punishment), (127) Except the chosen slaves of Allâh. (128) And We left for him (a goodly remembrance) among the later generations (to come) in later times; (129) Salâm (peace) be upon Ilyâsîn (Elias)!" (130) Verily, thus do We reward the Muhsinûn (good-doers, who perform good deeds totally for Allâh's sake only - see V.2:112) (131) Verily, he was one of Our believing slaves. (132) And verily, Lut (Lot) was one of the Messengers (133)

In regards to saying R.A after Ali (ra), Sunnis do it for all the companions. We add R.A even after the name of the ten who were promised paradise (Ali is part of the 10) such as Umar (ra), Uthman, Saeed (ra) etc etc. It's not 'stupid', its merely asking Allah to be pleased with the good deeds of the greatest generation of this Ummah.

Edited by Abu Muslim

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Nasibis that's why

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I think it is stupid that Sunnis say R.A. after Ali's name...We already know Allah is pleased with him....

not just hazrat ali a.s. yazeed la also we c in there history to be called R.A ---killer and killed both are R.A according to them !

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Sunnis don't like calling a spade a spade. They rather call it (ra) than differentiate between it and and a shovel.

ALI

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That ayah says "Salamun 'ala ilyasin". This view is backed up by the fact that previous and the ayaat that come after consist of "Salams" being send upon prophets/messengers.

Brother you have a point but it is quite apparent that it is not "Salamun 'ala ilyasin" it is "Salamun Ala Aal e Yaseen". Do you want to say that some Tehreef of Quran has happened in this verse?

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Shi'as say (as) because Allah (swt) sends his Salaam to many of his servants.

[37. Surah As-Saffat : Ayah 109]

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Peace be on Ibrahim (alaihi salaam).

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[37. Surah As-Saffat : Ayah 120]

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Peace be on Musa (alaihi salaam) and Haroun (alaihi salaam).

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[37. Surah As-Saffat : Ayah 130] surah37_ayah130.gif

Peace be on Ilyas (alaihi salaam).

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[37. Surah As-Saffat : Ayah 181] surah37_ayah180.gif

And peace be on the apostles.

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We also see (ra) in the Qur'an a few times, but never directly after the name of a Prophet. I also find it odd that if the 'Ashra Mubashiras' [1) Abu Bakr 2) Omar3) Uthman 4) Ali 5) Talha 6) al-Zubair 7) Saad bin Abi aqqass 8) Saeed bin Zaid 9) Abdulrahman bin `Awf and 10) Abu `Ubaida binal-Jarrah] were promised Jannah during their lives, they wouldn't need (ra) after their names because Allah (swt) must already be pleased with them to be promising heaven to them!

Edited by GodBlessAli

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I think it is stupid that Sunnis say R.A. after Ali's name...We already know Allah is pleased with him....

@ fatima hussain

So why do you say as? Cause he isn't in peace? Who's stupid now

Allah sends it down on his messengers and prophets and whom else Allah pleases, cause Allah is the creator

I don't see Allah saying alaihisalam on your imams

Don't bother with ambiguous sratements from Quran

I want names too. PROVIDED in the verses, this is where shia claims just cracks up. You claim this n that from Quran, but funnily enough we can use the same verses against you!

Bring your proof if you are truthful.

Your imams with names with proof of infalibilty from Quran.

Its simple if you aint liars.

So what's so evil about saying RA to them?

Prophets are chosen by Allah as u can see from above posts, by names and honor.

Your ayatullahs have no honor of place in Quran, neither does your currupted belief

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I really want to know why sunnies call umar r.a.?

That makes no sense

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There are basically three types of supplications normally associated with prominent personalities in Islam, and each of these three supplications are derived from the guidance of the Glorious Quran.

‘Sall-allaaho alayhe wa salllam’ or (saws) meaning ‘May the blessings of Allah and peace be upon him’. This supplication is normally associated with the Last and Final Messenger of Allah, Mohamed ar-Rasool Allah (saws).

‘Alayhis Salaam’ or (a.s.) meaning ‘upon him be peace’. This supplication is normally associated with all the Prophets of Allah Subhanah.

‘Radhe Allaho-ann’ or (r.a.) meaning ‘may Allah be Pleased with him/her’. This supplication is normally associated with all the noble companions of the Last Messenger of Allah (saws).

Thus each time the name of any amongst the above personalities finds mention in the presence of a believer, it would be accepted etiquette on the part of the believer to make a supplication unto their Lord for that pious slave of Allah.

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@TruePath;

 

WE already know that Allah is pleased with Ali- Karam Allah Wajahu - because both in your history books and in our history books, the incident of Khyber is mentioned where Nabi clearly testifies for Iman of Ali by claiming that he will give the flag of battle to one whom Allah and his messenger love and he loves Allah and his messenger.

If you don't want to believe in Nabis testimony - which I also might add that the Quran claims Nabi (pbut) doesn't utter anything of his own but what Allah wants - is a SOLID, CLEAR proof that Allah is already happy from Ali.

Edited by Zaydif74

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