There is no evidence Jesus ever carried a book
Neither did Mohamed .
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 06:59 AM
So are we talking about metaphoric books now?
Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:54 AM
Peace be WIth You
Before This Turns Out Something Very Big,
Let me tell you Ms Christianlady....
Yes Iƒ you think its similar, thats your understanding....But yes its true there are some things which are very forbidden...
The Most important is you saying the Prayer Infront Of an IDOL or IDOLS...
Desist from it...Good For you...So Miss Christain Lady...
Do you Desist from IDOLS from today????
Or do you wan me to post some of your own Bible and Torah Scriptures....To prove this....
Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.
In the Name Of Allah,The Most Merciful, Most Compassionate
And I (Prophet Esa (Peace be with him) have come confirming that which was before me of the Taurat (Torah), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you, and I have come to you with a proof from your Lord. So fear Allah and obey me.
51. Truly! Allah is my Lord and your Lord, so worship Him (Alone). This is the Straight Path.
Do you know which is the BOOK FROM WHICH EVEN THE LEAST STROKE OF PEN NOR EVEN THE SMALLEST LETTER HAS DISAPPEARED ???
If ye search truthful with purity...So shall you find the truth by the Grace of Allah
Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:02 PM
Do Not Excess your Love and Shall you flourish.
Posted 12 March 2012 - 03:31 PM
Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:21 PM
Not necessarily. The arabic word "Qur'an" literally means "that which is recited". The arabic word "kitaab" means "what is written". It's not necessary that all written text were binded into a book and held by the prophets. Muhammed recited, the words were written. Similar thing happened with Moses and Jesus and David.
And Hence you get another Clue to believe in the Qura'n. Every messenger a Shephard Hope you understand.. Things Happened After Prophet Esa Also..Fake Messengers Came..Who Professed Lies(Example Who started Idol Worship in Christainity , Eating Unlawful Food) And Also Came the True One. Just Now you said Jesus Did Not Come to abolish the Law Right.And You Are close to Torah Then Quran right. Now since Prophet Esa was a Jew..and he had the same law right. THE JEWS DO NOT EAT FLESH OF SWINE,SO SHOULD YOU.. DO YOU DESIST FROM EATING SWINE AND UNCLEAN MEAT FROM TODAY??? Do it Its Good for You..I hope you have read in your Book.
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Posted 14 March 2012 - 02:35 PM
I am curious please. How old are you?
I am Old Enough, My Hair Turned White..Old people Seldom Get Respect...
Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:22 AM
I will introduce myself without giving my name, hmm? I am a 34 years old lady, am very happily married to a wonderful Christian man who is also 34 years old. He is fine with me writing on forums, although he has 0% interest in forums. I grew up in a lovely Christian home with my parents and three little sisters. When I was 6 years old, I accepted Jesus as my Savior. However, as a teenager and in my 20's, I wandered away from God but thank God that He has brought me back and by His grace I am growing in my relationship with Him through Jesus!!!
I apologize. I had no idea you were my Dad's or Papaw's (Grandfather) age. I thought you were a teen for some reason, but I mean no disrespect.
Right now I don't have very much time to write, but if God wills, I hope to write and reply to your above posts later.
Peace and God bless you
Posted 15 March 2012 - 08:06 PM
Edited by ~Ruqaya's Amal~, 15 March 2012 - 08:14 PM.
Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:56 PM
YOU KNOW WHAT CHRISTIAN LADY
WHEN PROPHET MUSA CAME HE DEFIED THE PAGANS THE EGYPTIANS WHO PRACTICED IDOLATERY AND
WHEN PROPHET ESA CAME HIS CHALLENGE WAS TO DEFY THE PAGANISM AND ADULTERATED RELIGION OF SOME HIGH PROFILE CORRUPTED JEWS. HENCE HIS OWN RECIEVED HIM NOT
AND WHEN THE SEAL OF PROPHETS CAME PROPHET MUHAMMADH HIS CHALLENGE WAS TO DELIVER THE LAW TO PAGAN ARABS, CHRISTIANS WHO WERE CORRUPTED BELIEF BY ROMANS...
AND ALSO THE JEWS WHO WERE CORRUPTED...
AND AS YOU CAN SEE THE SENSE IN MY POST..BIRDS OF THE SAME FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER...
In The Name of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì , The Most Beneficent
Thank you for replying!
Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:35 PM
...the meaning as the english prayer does not make any sense , if it was in original aramaic than it will mean something ,
yes english language is very captivating from a dark side...the fiction english used in the prayer is for the fiction world of persons, corporations and the living dead.
(You cannot be a Verb)
:Quranic-Arabic. is for the living man or woman , of soul, consciousness and faith.
Get to know your english language , it's a very clever deception that this world has been thrown into , including all religions, business , law,and society that depends on this language, and most do.
Posted 16 March 2012 - 10:29 PM
Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:23 AM
Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:54 AM
In The Name of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì , The Most Beneficent
Thank you for replying!
Let's go along your line of thought. Even if we say that the Prophet (peace be upon him and his progeny) did interact with the Christians and, therefore, was a false Prophet,
I still don't understand why he would decide to preach the Jueo-Christian teachings.
After all, Christians and Jews would have constituted of a very small - and insignificant - minority on the Arabian peninsula; ergo, it would not make sense for him to take their teachings, especially if we consider how many hardships (like for example, an economic boycott for three years which crippled his tribe and the constant persecution of himself, his family and followers) he had to go through.
Why would a false Prophet ever propagate these teachings when there was nothing in it for him? Why go through so much trouble when he could have just become one of the priests of the temple or, as the pagans had once offered, why did he not become their ruler, get wealth or women from them? Why would a false Prophet reject all these and teach that which did not benefit him?
Coming to the question of the Prophet (peace be upon him and his progeny) 's alleged illiteracy, I think you need to consider the fact that there are two fundamental divisions in Islam: Shias and Sunnis. What you are stating is the Sunni belief and Shias, for the most part, believe he was able to write but this was not due to learning from someone - he was unschooled, not unlettered! We believe that, yes, he could read and write but this was taught to him by Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì but he never used these abilities because, like many today do, people would doubt his message and claim that they are not his teachings but that he copied them! This is why he never read or wrote.
Let me ask a simple question: before Moses did the Children of Israel not follow different rules? In fact, don't Christians today differ in their rulings from the Jews?
Let me ask a simple question: before Moses did the Children of Israel not follow different rules?
In fact, don't Christians today differ in their rulings from the Jews?
Before Abraham there were no Jews or Children of Israel to talk of so did those people - and the Prophets (peace be upon them all) assigned to them, such as Prophet Noah - not have any laws? Did they not have any instructions from God?
Obviously, they did but these were not the same as the laws of Moses .
When Moses came, the old laws were abrogated and, instead, the news laws he had brought took their place.
Similarly, when Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him and his progeny) came, the laws he brought were now the "current edition" to be followed and the older laws had become obsolete.
Perhaps, a simple answer as to why Jesus did not condemn the Scriptures of the Jews was because, at that time, they had not been corrupted.
After all, Jews did not believe in a concept of Trinity as Christians do.
Moreover, he also did condemn the Jews for the wrong they were doing.
Similarly, Prophet Muhammed (peace be upon him and his progeny) condemned those beliefs and practices of the Jews and Christians where they had deviated.
No, you did not hurt or offend me and if I have offended you the slightest bit, then I am extremely sorry.
Edited by Christianlady, 17 March 2012 - 11:10 AM.
Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:29 PM
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