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#1 Faatima_ki_kaneez

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 04:44 PM

Salaamu'Alaikum Brothers and Sisters,

My question is: Is there a record of the surviving lineage of Yazid (Lanti)? If so, does anyone have information of where they are, what they're called. For example, Syed have that tile. Do they also (though I imagine that's not something people would necessariy want to flaunt).

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Posted 21 February 2012 - 07:43 PM

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Source of graphic: http://www.al-islam....ort/karbala.htm

According to what I have read, the wife of Yazid LA was a holy woman who used to be a maidservant of Hazrat Zainab AS.

In the end Yazid was afraid that if he kept the family of the Prophet in prison any longer, he will loose his kingdom. So he sent orders to bring the family before him and told him that he was releasing them. He also asked what they wish to do now. In reply to this His aunt Zainab said that they would wish to hold a gathering in Damascus so that she can tell the people what happened in Kerbala. Yazid agreed and the first Majlis was held in Damascus. In this Majlis most of the women of Damascus took part who were secretly following the path of Ahlulbayt which included Yazid’s wife Hind. http://www.al-islam.org/kaaba14/7.htm


So Yazid's son Mu'awiya II was a good person and his brother 'Abd al-Rahman Ibn Yazid was holy, too.

Enumerating some of his father's and forefather's negative conducts, he added, “They martyred the Prophet's kinfolks, profaned the sacred sanctuary and set fire on Ka'ba. Neverever will I undertake your responsibility.”[2455]

Marwan Ibn Hakam suggested that he organize a council like 'Umar. He recoiled from the responsibility, however.[2456]

It was astonishing that he was Yazid's son especially when he described his brother,'Abd al-Rahman Ibn Yazid as, ßÇä äÇÓßÇð ãÊÃáøåÇ “He is a divine man and a worshipper.” [2457] http://www.al-islam....afariyan/11.htm


As you said, the relatives of Yazid LA probably were not proud of it. It would be interesting to look at, if anyone has such a family tree of Yazid LA. There is a Quraysh family tree here, but it stops at Yazeed. http://www.al-islam....os/quraysh.html
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Posted 21 February 2012 - 10:57 PM

According to what I have read, the wife of Yazid LA was a holy woman who used to be a maidservant of Hazrat Zainab AS.

Yes, indeed. My favorite noha (they are all my favorite, but a close one to my heart is Qaid Khaaney Mein Talatum Hai, about Hind (as).

I actually heart that terrible people kept cropping up out of that lineage. As the Imamat continued, the next lineage of Yazid would as well. However, this is just something I've been told by my elders, not anything I've been able to confirm. I just would be interested to know. I also found the tree you shared, but nothing further than that.
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:09 PM

Yes, indeed. My favorite noha (they are all my favorite, but a close one to my heart is Qaid Khaaney Mein Talatum Hai, about Hind (as).

I actually heart that terrible people kept cropping up out of that lineage. As the Imamat continued, the next lineage of Yazid would as well. However, this is just something I've been told by my elders, not anything I've been able to confirm. I just would be interested to know. I also found the tree you shared, but nothing further than that.


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Sister, I wish that someone will answer, because it is really an interesting topic. Thank you for starting it. :)

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:15 PM

Yazid (la) had a son called Muawiyah the second. Amazingly his son was a true believer of Ahl al Bayt. He assumed the caliphate briefly before he died/ was killed(?).

We know about him from a sermon he gave where he cursed his father, Yazeed (LA) and his grandfather Muawiyah (la) for their betrayal against the family of Muhammad (pbuh).

I found a wikipedia entry about him. Not sure how accurate the entry is http://en.wikipedia....iki/Mu'awiya_II

Edited by Gypsy, 23 February 2012 - 01:22 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 01:16 PM

I don't know if this is right...
But Surah Kawthar says that the Prophet's (saww) enemies will be Abtar, they won't have descendants. So that's why the Bani Ummayah do not have any descendants.

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 04:24 PM

I don't know if this is right...
But Surah Kawthar says that the Prophet's (saww) enemies will be Abtar, they won't have descendants. So that's why the Bani Ummayah do not have any descendants.

Bani Ummayah don't have descendants? Really? Nah, you must be joking :donno:. I don't understand all the hate against Banu Ummayah, like someone earlier pointed out even according to the Shia, there were pious peope within Banu Ummayah.

Edited by Abu Muslim, 23 February 2012 - 04:25 PM.


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Posted 23 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

Bani Ummayah don't have descendants? Really? Nah, you must be joking :donno:


What I was thinking too. If they didn't have decendents, there would be no caliphate. And I know there are good people in that lineage. And I don't want to say anything bad, but if Muawiiya, son of Yazid, was such a good momin, why didn't he give the Caliphate back to the Imam? Once he recognized how terrible Yazid (LA) was for doing what he did (may he rot in the deepest depths of Hell), why didn't he also realize that he is sitting in a position of power he doesn't have the right to...

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 07:31 PM

What I was thinking too. If they didn't have decendents, there would be no caliphate. And I know there are good people in that lineage. And I don't want to say anything bad, but if Muawiiya, son of Yazid, was such a good momin, why didn't he give the Caliphate back to the Imam? Once he recognized how terrible Yazid (LA) was for doing what he did (may he rot in the deepest depths of Hell), why didn't he also realize that he is sitting in a position of power he doesn't have the right to...

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I heard in a lecture that Muwawiya son of Yazeed wanted to give back the caliphate to Imam Zainul Abidin (as) ... I don't know why it never ended up happening though.

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#10 Faatima_ki_kaneez

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 08:38 PM

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I heard in a lecture that Muwawiya son of Yazeed wanted to give back the caliphate to Imam Zainul Abidin (as) ... I don't know why it never ended up happening though.

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That's interesting...I heard (I may very well be wrong) that each Imam petitioned for their right to the caliphate (because doing not doing so would be allowing injustice) and each time they were denied their right

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Posted 24 February 2012 - 02:13 AM

That's interesting...I heard (I may very well be wrong) that each Imam petitioned for their right to the caliphate (because doing not doing so would be allowing injustice) and each time they were denied their right

hmm, this calls for researching more into this topic :shifty:

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Posted 26 February 2012 - 02:59 AM

hmm, this calls for researching more into this topic :shifty:



haha. true. However, I've tried to research on countless occations, and have found nothing. I can't find anything beyond what sister Hameeda found.

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Posted 03 March 2012 - 07:19 AM

haha. true. However, I've tried to research on countless occations, and have found nothing. I can't find anything beyond what sister Hameeda found.

I came across something today


Mua`wiyah Ibn Yazid

After the three-year Caliphate of Yazid (who brought about the murder of Imam Husain (as)), the lootings and crimes in Madinah and sacrilege with respect to the Kaabah, the Caliphate reached his son Muaawiyah. Whenever Muaawiyah slept at night, two slave-girls would remain awake, one near his head while the other near his feet, in order to protect him from inconveniences.
One night, thinking that the Caliph was asleep, the slave-girls began conversing with each other.

“The Caliph likes me more than you and if he does not set his eyes upon me three times a day, he gets restless and disturbed,” the one that sat near the Caliph's head said.

“Hell is the abode for both of you,” commented the other slave-girl.

Not being able to sleep, Muaawiyah heard the conversation. Predictably, he felt the urge to get up and put the slave-girl to death, but he controlled himself and waited to hear more of their dialogue.

The first slave-girl wanted to know why the second one had made that remark. She got the following reply: “Muaawiyah and Yazid, the grandfather and father of this Muaawiyah, were the usurpers of the Caliphate, since the rank was the right and privilege of the household of the Noble Prophet (sa).”

When Muaawiyah heard this, he drifted into deep reflection and finally made up his mind to step down from the false Caliphate and inform the people of the true leader.

The next morning he ordered all the people to be present in the mosque. When the mosque was full, he ascended the pulpit and after praising Allah, said: “O' People! The Caliphate is the right of Imam Sajjad (as) whereas my grandfather, my father and I were its usurpers.”

He descended from the pulpit, returned to his house, locked himself in and refused to allow anyone to enter it. When his mother was informed of the incident, she approached him, beating her head with her hands.

“Oh! How I wish that you had been the blood of my monthly cycle so that I might not have had to witness such an act from you!” she shouted.

Muaawiyah remarked, “By Allah! I wish I had been just what you desired so that you had never given birth to me!”
For forty days he did not emerge from his house. In the meantime, Marwan Ibn Hakam took over the reins of the Caliphate. Marwan then married Muaawiyah's mother (Yazid's wife) and a few days later he had Muaawiyah poisoned.

Dastan-ha Wa Pand-ha, Volume 9, Page 154; Jamea al-Nurain, Page 316

http://www.al-islam....ection-2/14.htm
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Posted 12 March 2012 - 10:47 PM

I've had the same exact question before.

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Posted 10 September 2013 - 09:30 PM

I came across something today


Mua`wiyah Ibn Yazid

After the three-year Caliphate of Yazid (who brought about the murder of Imam Husain (as)), the lootings and crimes in Madinah and sacrilege with respect to the Kaabah, the Caliphate reached his son Muaawiyah. Whenever Muaawiyah slept at night, two slave-girls would remain awake, one near his head while the other near his feet, in order to protect him from inconveniences.
One night, thinking that the Caliph was asleep, the slave-girls began conversing with each other.

“The Caliph likes me more than you and if he does not set his eyes upon me three times a day, he gets restless and disturbed,” the one that sat near the Caliph's head said.

“Hell is the abode for both of you,” commented the other slave-girl.

Not being able to sleep, Muaawiyah heard the conversation. Predictably, he felt the urge to get up and put the slave-girl to death, but he controlled himself and waited to hear more of their dialogue.

The first slave-girl wanted to know why the second one had made that remark. She got the following reply: “Muaawiyah and Yazid, the grandfather and father of this Muaawiyah, were the usurpers of the Caliphate, since the rank was the right and privilege of the household of the Noble Prophet (sa).”

When Muaawiyah heard this, he drifted into deep reflection and finally made up his mind to step down from the false Caliphate and inform the people of the true leader.

The next morning he ordered all the people to be present in the mosque. When the mosque was full, he ascended the pulpit and after praising Allah, said: “O' People! The Caliphate is the right of Imam Sajjad (as) whereas my grandfather, my father and I were its usurpers.”

He descended from the pulpit, returned to his house, locked himself in and refused to allow anyone to enter it. When his mother was informed of the incident, she approached him, beating her head with her hands.

“Oh! How I wish that you had been the blood of my monthly cycle so that I might not have had to witness such an act from you!” she shouted.

Muaawiyah remarked, “By Allah! I wish I had been just what you desired so that you had never given birth to me!”
For forty days he did not emerge from his house. In the meantime, Marwan Ibn Hakam took over the reins of the Caliphate. Marwan then married Muaawiyah's mother (Yazid's wife) and a few days later he had Muaawiyah poisoned.


Dastan-ha Wa Pand-ha, Volume 9, Page 154; Jamea al-Nurain, Page 316

http://www.al-islam....ection-2/14.htm

 

Sorry to bump an old topic but I was wondering about Yazid(la)'s son too. But now I'm confused, so was Yazid's wife (Muawiyah II's mother) a pious woman or not? 





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