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#1 baradar_jackson

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:32 AM

This thread is about zhongshan suit, zhongshan suit appreciation, and zhongshan suit history.

I want to know everyone's thoughts on the Zhongshan suit, also known as the Sun Yat-sen suit (named after Dr. Sun Yat-sen, founder of the Chinese republic); known in the US as the "Mao suit" (because Mao Tse-tung wore a modified form of it).

The Zhongshan suit has a lot of history. Sun Yat-sen wanted it to become the Chinese national dress, as it was a modern, new form of clothing that suited Eastern sensibilities, and was not all too different from traditional Chinese clothing.

Here is Dr. Sun Yat-sen wearing one:

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After the fall of the nationalists in China and the establishment of the PRC, Chinese Communists continued with even more vigor, the project of making the Zhongshan suit the national uniform. Here is Mao Tse-tung with Zhou Enlai, both wearing the suit:

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A lot of the Zhongshan suits worn by Chinese people during the early days of their revolution, were made from what was called "patriotic wool," leftover wool from the workshop floor. This is why they had such a drab look.

But the Zhongshan suit was not just limited to China, and Sun Yat-sen was not the first to wear one. There were many forms of this suit in different parts of the East.

Sattar Khan and Baqer Khan generally wore the traditional dress of Iranian Azeris. But there are also pictures of them wearing long zhongshan-style suits:

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The Imperial Japanese Army and Navy had a zhongshan-style uniform before Sun Yat-sen even came to power in China (and I doubt the Japanese would want to do taqleed of Chinese leaders' clothing anyway).

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Brother Hassanein Rajabali wears a longer, Pakier form of the Zhongshan suit:

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A lot of our more soosooli ulama wear a long, loose zhongshan suit under their cloak:

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In Iran, the school uniforms for boys resembles a zhongshan suit:

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And for girls, it's the same, but longer and with a headscarf:

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Shahid Rajaei used to wear thin shirts that were long and had military style buttons on the chest. This was like a warm-weather zhongshan suit.

Click this: http://t2.gstatic.co...CdSHYoHXhPlb4pC
(wouldn't let me post it as an image)

So what is everyone's thoughts on the zhongshan suit?

I think they're great.

Edited by baradar_jackson, 11 October 2011 - 02:32 AM.


#2 Blissful

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 01:43 AM

Cool stuff.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:11 AM

Nice .. don't think it would suit me wearing one though :lol: ... but hey you never know :P

#4 baradar_jackson

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 02:52 AM

If anybody finds where to buy one, please tell me.

And I don't mean that 200 dollar nonsense that I found while searching on googool. I am not paying that much for a freaking Mao suit. In China they cost like a dollar, custom made.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:22 AM

doesn't look cool to me

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:35 AM

Yes yes, very nice look for a south east asian dictator or someone in the service of one.

Baradar, you must really be a mental guy in the real world, if thats how you go around dressing (or apiring to dress)

But anyways, its not exactly the same thing, but you could go to one of those army surplus stores and just get one of the green army jackets, and do the buttons up to the top

http://www.armysurpl...t-2-pocket.html

however, i did have one a few years back, its more che guevara than chairman mao

this may be what you are looking for

http://www.tridentmi...e-uniforms.html

or you can probably find some other stuff here

http://www.tridentmi...hina-index.html

be sure to post a picture up


or your best bet would be to find a chinese tailor, and have one made yourself

Edited by Ali_Hussain, 11 October 2011 - 03:37 AM.


#7 baradar_jackson

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 03:37 AM

Yes yes, very nice look for a south east asian dictator or someone in the service of one.


Did you even read the post?

In the US it's known as a "Mao suit," but it has much more history and is much more global than that.

And Sun Yat-sen was not exactly a dictator.

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Posted 11 October 2011 - 04:16 AM

Sattar Khan and Baqer Khan generally wore the traditional dress of Iranian Azeris. But there are also pictures of them wearing long zhongshan-style suits:

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Ah they removed the picture.

Here it is:

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And here are their companions, some of them wearing zhongshan suits and others wearing traditional Iranian clothing specific to Azerbaijan region:

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Tojo, the militarist/fascist Japanese leader, wore a zhongshan as well:

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The uniform of the imperial Japanese military was based on this.

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The zhongshan influence has gone as far as the USA!

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Edited by baradar_jackson, 11 October 2011 - 04:55 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:44 AM

Famous Chinese actor wearing the zhongshan suit:

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Modernized chongshan:

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Colored zhongshan monuments:

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Bruce Lee wore one:

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The zhongshan suit, unfortunately, is not worn that much nowadays, either by ordinary people or by world leaders.

Chinese officials wear it on certain occasions (such as military parades), and Kim Jong-un wears one, but other than that, it has gone out of style.

Even the clothing habits in the DPRK have become Westernized. Look at these pictures:

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Yes, the ladies are wearing traditional Korean dress (hanbok), but look at the little girl in the pink jacket: she is wearing blue jeans! BTW this picture disproves the false idea that Western newspapers say, which is that the only colors people in Pyongyang are allowed to wear are black, green, blue, and white. Also, those dresses are incomplete! Traditionally, they should also have a head-covering.

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^ North Korean boy wearing a South Park t-shirt

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^ Perhaps a South Korean subversion? South Korea has become a very Protestant country!

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Mickey mouse backpack?

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This girl really takes the cake! Two mobile phones (one in each hand) AND a super-Westernized clothing style.

The zhongshan is dying in the one place one would assume it would thrive.

Edited by baradar_jackson, 12 October 2011 - 08:58 AM.


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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:26 PM

I want one!!! baradar ask a tailor how much it would cost to get one made? maybe if it i can afford we can go in on two. Khoodahafez

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Posted 12 October 2011 - 08:44 PM

not cheap http://www.chineseku...ese Tunic Suits

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 03:16 AM

Brother Maitham those people are charging extortion prices.

We will go to China and get custom made ones for ourselves. 50 cents each.

We can then buy some in bulk and sell them on the internet for like 1/4th of what those guys are charging. That would make up for the cost of our ticket to China.

Deal?

#13 Marbles

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 03:46 AM

It looks like Safari suits famous with the desis. Look below


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This isn't me, by the way.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 05:43 AM

It looks like Safari suits famous with the desis. Look below Posted Image This isn't me, by the way.


Looks good except for the collar and short sleeves!

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 06:16 AM

Brother Maitham those people are charging extortion prices.

We will go to China and get custom made ones for ourselves. 50 cents each.

We can then buy some in bulk and sell them on the internet for like 1/4th of what those guys are charging. That would make up for the cost of our ticket to China.

Deal?


if your flying us there and buying the bulk we have a deal :P

You know actually we could make a profit if we could get them cheap. unless we are the only two people who want one.

Edited by Maitham, 13 October 2011 - 06:19 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 06:25 AM


if your flying us there and buying the bulk we have a deal :P

You know actually we could make a profit if we could get them cheap. unless we are the only two people who want one.


Brother we will find a market. Look at all the hype we have made just with this thread.

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Posted 13 October 2011 - 07:40 AM


Brother we will find a market. Look at all the hype we have made just with this thread.


:) ok as long as your working promotion.

Edited by Maitham, 13 October 2011 - 07:41 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2011 - 09:38 AM

Can't you get it hand made? You must know some tailor?

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Posted 14 October 2011 - 07:21 PM

In Iran, if there is a picture from a shahid pre-revolution, they often edit the photos (poorly, at that) to change the uniform to one that doesn't have a tie.

Here they changed Shahid Hamidreza Mani's uniform to a zhongshan-style uniform! http://www.aja.ir/po...8a-7415307d74df



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