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#1 Basra

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 06:00 AM

This post/essay will likely trigger negative reactions from some (if not many), so let me first start this by saying I in no way support the recent bombing of the Coptic Christian church in Egypt and whoever carried it out must be brought to justice, it must be also remembered that the blast injured 8 Egyptian Muslims. http://news.blogs.cn...church-kills-7/
Quote- I blame israel for this for years they have been trying to cause strife between muslims and christians in egypt for their interest divide and conquer that one of their national objectives to weaken egypt.. we dont have to go far to remember Lavon affair do we. its clear as anything israel did it to cause strife, i hope egyptian christians figure this out.

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The Western kuffar Zionist Jewish owned media and their allies are trying to point the finger of blame (along with the Zionist controlled dictator of Egypt Hosni Mubarak and his filthy evildoer son Gamal Mubarak) at the Muslims; but this ignores the history of Zionist "Israeli" false flag terrorist attacks that have occurred in Egypt. This very real possibility is just being completely ignored or mocked by the Zionist Jewish owned Western "mainstream" media. Yet this is just what the Zionist Jews have always wanted Muslims and Christians fighting each other; the Zionist Jews hate both Muslims and Christians and want us to destroy each other so they (i.e. the Zionist Jews) can reign supreme in the world.

The most famous Zionist "Israeli" false flag attack (http://en.wikipedia....wiki/False_flag) in Egypt was the Lavon Affair: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Lavon_Affair

Quote- The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone.[1] The operation caused no casualties, except for the members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.

The operation became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair or The Bad Business (Hebrew: העסק ביש‎, HaEsek Bish or העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). After being denied for 51 years, the surviving agents were in 2005 officially honored with a certificate of appreciation by the Israeli President Moshe Katzav.[2]

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It is worth noting this bombing occurred soon after a large Zionist "Israeli" spy ring was uncovered in Egypt and stopped. http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-12043290 Egypt uncovers 'Israeli spy ring' Could this have been the impetus (or reason) that the Zionist "Israeli" Mossad decided to launch this false flag now!

Also it is known that the Amerikkkan/Zionist backed puppet dictator Hosni Mubarak(la) wants to place his wicked/corrupt son Gamal Mubarak(la) in power soon; what better way to do this then causing chaos in Egypt and claiming the need for "state action against terrorism" much as the US did with the "Patriot Act"! Yet another thing that must be said is the truth of al-CIA-duh as the mainstream Zionist owned media seems to be trying to claim "al-Qaeda" (again al-CIA-duh) was allegedly behind this Egyptian church bombing.
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What I will say that will likely be unpopular but it is the truth and that is the facts that Coptic lies and propaganda have overshadowed and hid. This is the reality that Coptic Christians are both not the alleged "indigenous people" of Egypt and that rich Coptic Christians (via their alliance with the Hosni Mubarak government) are oppressing Egypt's 80 million people 90%+ of which are poor oppressed Egyptian Muslims. The Coptic church is treated as above the law in Egypt. http://english.aljaz...1612990143.html
Quote- But Muslims argue that the Coptic church is above the state law, enjoying protections and safeguards not extended to society at large.

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The Copts are disproportionately represented among Egypt's richest families and these rich Copts are closely tied to the Mubarak dictatorship. Egypt has one of the largest gaps between haves and have nots (i.e. one of the nations where the wealthiest few hold the most power and money over the poor masses). The richest family in Egypt (that has their mouths right to the ear of power and is high up in the corrupt "NDP" party of Hosni Mubarak(la) is the Coptic Sawiris family.

http://en.wikipedia..../Sawiris_Family

The patriarch of this corrupt Coptic Sawiris family is a Copt named Onsi Sawiris; one of Onsi Sawiris' sons with the most clear links and large influence on the corrupt Zionist run dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak is Nassef Sawiris. http://en.wikipedia..../Nassef_Sawiris

Another of Egypt's wealthiest thieves is the Copt; Fayez Sarofim: http://en.wikipedia....i/Fayez_Sarofim

These are the two wealthiest people in Egypt: the Sawiris and the Sarofim thief who lives in Amerikkka at the moment.

Don't let some of Wikipedia's propaganda fool you with claims of these rich Coptic thieving businessmen's alleged "philanthropy"; they like all of Egypt's other rich businessmen are oppressors of the Egyptian nation serving and benefiting from the US/Zionist puppet dictator of Egypt Hosni Mubarak(la) and his extremely corrupt son Gamal Mubarak(la).

Another one of the Coptic Christians biggest myths and lies is their claim that they are allegedly among the "indigenous people" of Egypt; they attempt to use this false claim to try to say that Egypt's Arab Muslim majority is "foreign" even though the Copts themselves are again not "indigenous" to Egypt and are simply a mixture of Greeks and Arabs (the word Copt itself is just the Greek word for Egypt).

http://en.wikipedia....ace_controversy

Quote- In the Copts of Egypt, we do not find any of the characteristic features of the Ancient Egyptian population. The Copts are the result of crossbreeding with all the nations that successfully dominated Egypt. It is wrong to seek in them the principal features of the old race.

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Truth be told the Nubians and other extremely dark skinned black Africans are the real indigenous Egyptians, read up on Kemet the Copts are mostly Greek and Arab, so they came to Egypt at about the exact same time as Arab Muslims. Again both Greeks and Arabs came after Nubian Muslims were already living in Egypt, so Nubian Muslims are more indigenous than any Coptic Christian (see Anwar el-Sadat and others). This just destroys Coptic myths and propaganda. Again the most truly indigenous people of Egypt are the Nubian people of southern Egypt who are almost all Muslims. The Nubians had the first Egyptian kingdom, in Egypt's south that was located at Memphis, Egypt.

Picture of Nubian Egyptian Muslims from the southern Egyptian city of Aswan. The black Nubian Muslim Egyptians are those with with the strongest claim to being indigenous to the land of Egypt, not the Coptic Christians who are Greek and Arab.
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The source of this above picture: http://www.evcal.org/NileCruise.html caption at this website reads: "Nubians at the Aswan Botanic Garden, Egypt"

Again this is the reality, but it in no way justifies the bombing of the Coptic church. One must read real history and see that the Copts themselves assisted the Muslim Arabs and fought with them against the Byzantine Empire's occupation of Egypt. The Copts wanted to be ruled by the Muslims, not the oppressive Byzantine Empire.

Some good points:

http://www.ikhwanweb...le.php?id=27721

Quote- Top Egyptian Cleric Denounces Pope Benedict’s Double Standards
During a press conference Al-Azhar’s Grand Cleric Ahmed Al-Tayeb denounced Pope Benedict XVI’s biased reaction to the blast in Alexandria questioning why he didn’t ask for the Muslims to be protected when they were killed in Iraq.

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The Coptic church continues to imprison Cameila Shehata and Wafa Constantine who both converted to Islam after having been married to Coptic priests. The Coptic church refuses to let them simply come out in public and say they freely want to be Coptic Christians! Clearly the Coptic church is holding these Muslim woman for some reason, what could it be other than the fact that they had become Muslim and the Copts didn't want this?!

Your sister Cameila Shehata, imprisoned by the Coptic church
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Good video refuting the lies against Muslims and showing in real academic work that in Egypt, Coptic Christians are more likely proportionately, that is when taking into account what percentage of the total Egyptian population they form, to engage in violent extremism then Egyptian Muslims.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOSBeRbGryo

The Egyptian government run organ Al-Ahram brought up an interesting point in this 2009 article http://weekly.ahram....929/feature.htm

Quote- Any Muslim enterprise in Upper Egypt is now perceived by the Coptic community there as an attempt to flank the predominantly Christian villages in Upper Egypt to deny the Copts a stronghold. And every Coptic enterprise, especially if it involves Naguib Sawiris, caricatured by many as the "Coptic" business tycoon par excellence, is automatically viewed with suspicion as part of some conspiracy to establish Egypt as a Coptic zone.

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This article attempts to gloss over the dominance (and completely hides the links to the Mubarak dictatorship) of the richest family in the Egypt the Coptic Sawiris family. Of the five richest people in Egypt, Copts make up 40% of them (when they are at most only 10% of the total Egyptian population). And again the Sawiris Coptic family is one of the main backers and allies of the Hosni Mubarak(la) and soon to be Gamal Mubarak(la) dictatorship, in league with the Mubarak(la)'s Zionist/Amerikkkan masters.

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Also a good article detailing some more Coptic crimes. From back in 2009 Coptic Christian rapist: "Seven killed at Coptic Christmas shooting suspected to be revenge for Muslim girl's rape." Yet Copts get away with their crimes as they control Egypt's economy and are allies of the secular Hosni Mubarak(la) Zionist run dictatorship that oppressed mostly Egypt's Muslim peasants who are 90%+ of Egypt's 80 million people.

http://www.topix.com...ED5E1IAUOH0FJJI

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US Exchange Student Starved While Staying With Host Family in Egypt;

Parents Consider Lawsuit

By JERRY HARKAVY Associated Press Writer

The Associated Press

HALLOWELL, Maine - Jonathan McCullum was in perfect health at 155 pounds when he left last summer to spend the school year as an exchange student in Egypt.

But when he returned home to Maine just four months later, the 5-foot-9 teenager weighed a mere 97 pounds and was so weak that he struggled to carry his baggage or climb a flight of stairs. Doctors said he was at risk for a heart attack.

McCullum says he was denied sufficient food while staying with a family of Coptic Christians[/b], who fast for more than 200 days a year, a regimen unmatched by other Christians.

But he does not view the experience as a culture clash. Rather, he said, it reflected mean and stingy treatment by his host family, whose broken English made it difficult to communicate.

"The weight loss concerned me, but I wanted to stick out the whole year," he said in an interview at his family's home outside Augusta.

Friends and teachers at his English-speaking school in Egypt urged him to change his host family, but he stayed put after being told the other home was in a dangerous neighborhood of Alexandria.

After returning to the U.S., he was hospitalized for nearly two weeks. The 17-year-old has regained about 20 pounds, but his parents say he's not the same boy he was when he left under the auspices of AFS Intercultural Programs.

"He was outgoing, a straight-A student, very athletic. Now, he's less spontaneous and more subdued," said his mother, Elizabeth McCullum, who was shocked when she met her son at the airport on Jan. 9 and saw he had lost one-third his weight.

Jonathan McCullum's parents said the exchange program should have warned them that students placed with Coptic families would be subject to dietary restrictions.

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Lastly, I just wanted to again say rip to all those killed in this terrible bombing and I hope that whoever did the crime will soon be uncovered and punished. Also I'm not denying that despite their disproportionate wealth (and thus be extension influence) that Coptic Christians in Egypt don't face problems like instances of discrimination; but these are blown out of proportion by the Western Zionist owned media that themselves kill Palestinians and have murdered well over 1 million Iraqis (mostly Muslims).

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A true genocide is what happened to the Native Americans by white European Christians, today there is nobody around practicing the Mayan, Aztec, or Inca religions because white European Christian invaders exterminated all of them!
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Coptic Christians are up to 10% of Egypt's population today, and had the Muslims of Egypt wanted to allegedly "force" Coptic Christians to either "convert to Islam or be killed" (as some idiots claim Egypt's Muslims allegedly want to) nothing would've stopped them and their wouldn't be any Coptic Christians around today! But this is no the case Muslims have been kind and protected the Coptic Christians, so much so that wealthy Copts have betrayed this trust and oppressed Egypt's Muslim majority.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 08:30 AM

A good article detailing the Coptic Sawiris family's links and collusion/collaboration with the evil Amerikkkan/Zionist controlled dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak(la), and likely son to be his son Gamal Mubarak(la)'s dictatorship.

http://naguib-sawiri...ring-under.html

Quote- Naguib Sawiris: prospering under Mubarak’s Governement
A story in The Guardian emphasizes the connection between Naguib Sawiris business and politic backup, using President Mubarak as a sales man for Orascom.

As one of Egypt's wealthiest businessmen, it doesn't take a genius to figure out how telecom tycoon Naguib Sawiris has managed to succeed. It's well known in the mainstream media that Naguib Sawiris and his family have deep political connections to President Hosni Mubarak. As The Guardian reported, "The Sawiris family has continued to prosper over the past three decades under Hosni Mubarak's government." Naguib Sawiris profits both personally and commercially from his connection to Egypt's government elite.

To what extent are the Sawiris family and President Mubarak's family involved?

Mubarak's son, Alaa Mubarak, is a significant shareholder in Orascom and its affiliates, as well as a personal friend of Sawiris: privileged sources believe Alaa Mubarak's positive intervention on Naguib Sawiris' behalf is what helped Mobinil win the second GSM license in Egypt. In an interview with Al Arabiya News on July 18, 2004, Naguib Sawiris said he was "satisfied" with the Mubarak government. Mubarak must be satisfied, too. Because when Orascom encountered trouble with its Syrian venture, Mubarak went to Syria to try and settle Naguib Sawiris and Orascom's mess with Syrian President Bashar Al Assad.

The family ties don't stop at business. Naguib Sawiris, Alaa Mubarak, and his brother Nassef Mubarak are such close friends that they attended several football matches and stayed together in France during the 1998 World Cup. Naguib Sawiris' wife, Yousriya Loza Sawiris, serves as chairman and secretary general of the Sawiris Foundation, and President Mubarak's wife, Suzanne Mubarak, is on the board of directors.

At this point it wouldn't be surprising if someone called Naguib Sawiris and Mubarak answered the phone.

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Naguib Sawiris, Egypt's wealthiest man, a Copt who has gotten ill-gotten wealth from his role with the oppressive dictator Hosni Mubarak who is in many ways a servant of the Copts himself
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The Egyptian Muslim people are oppressed and killed by the evil Western puppet dictator Hosni Mubarak(la) who is again backed by the Zionists and the rich Greek originated Copts who have thus gotten money they don't deserve via collusion and collaborating with Hosni Mubarak in oppressing and exploiting Egypt's Muslim majority:

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 09:40 AM

Remember the Lavon Affair: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Lavon_Affair

The Lavon Affair was false flag Zionist Jewish "Israeli" terrorism carried out against Egypt, is history repeating itself in 2011?!

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:03 AM

Another very famous false flag attack the Zionist "Israelis" carried out that in an indirect way involved Egypt (as it was attempting to harm Egyptian-American ties, one could easily extend this to trying to cause inter-religious strife in modern Egypt by the Zionist Mossad criminals) was the Zionist "Israeli" aerial bombardment of the Amerikkkan military vessel the USS Liberty in 1967. This has come to be known as the USS Liberty Incident.

http://en.wikipedia....iberty_incident

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The Zionist "Israelis" largely got away with this crime against the USS Liberty as well. These are very important lessons of how the Zionist "Israelis" use false flag attacks, agent provocateurs, and other forms of slimy backhanded "covert operations" and tricks to try to brainwash people and get them to fight each other so the Zionist Jews benefit. That is also how benefits most from this recent church bombing in Alexandria, Egypt the Zionist "Israelis" benefit most as this bombing threatens Egyptian national cohesion. If Egypt is racked with inter-religious strife it will no doubt make Egypt a weaker nation, and thus the Zionist "Israelis" win and can bully Egypt and the Egyptian people more and by extension get away with even more Zionist crimes against the oppressed and occupied Palestinian people. We must look for who benefits most in a crime as anyone who studies even basic criminology would tell you, having the most to gain from some crime makes you a likely suspect for having carried out that crime in the first place. The Zionist "Israeli" Mossad would recently be able to carry out such a false flag bombing in Alexandria, Egypt and the Zionist "Israeli" Mossad has the filthy, evil pedigree (i.e. history of actions) to suggest they would do a bombing like this to weaken Egypt and benefit Zionist "Israeli" imperialist interests in the Middle East region.

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Posted 03 January 2011 - 10:31 AM

True indigenous Egyptians are again completely black African Nubians (almost all of whom are today Muslims and live in Egypt and the Sudan)

A few more pictures of the true Indigenous people of Egypt, that is the Nubian Egyptians (who are again today almost all Muslims)
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Those again were pictures of the original inhabitants of Egypt the Nubians, Egypt's historical name is Kemet and Kemet is again linked with the Nubians and Kush.

The Copts are not indigenous to Egypt as one can easily see by simply looking at pictures of Coptic Christians in Egypt:

Now pictures of white skinned Coptic Christian Egyptians who are simply completely mixed with Greeks and Arabs and thus have no claim to being among the alleged Indigenous people of Egypt who were again all black Africans:
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Coptic Christians in Egypt all white not a single dark face in the room for mass lol! So much for their silly Coptic claim to being allegedly "indigenous" to Egypt!
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Heck again the Egyptian Muslim leader Anwar el-Sadat (putting aside the fact that he was a traitor and agent of the Zionists) had more claim to being indigenous Egyptian being of both Egyptian and Sudanese Nubian heritage:
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A good video on the reality of Nubians and black Africans being the true Indigenous people of Egypt not white Copts as their Coptic propaganda spread by the wealthy Coptic oppressive fat cat businessmen like Fayez Sarofim and the Sawiris family like to try to claim. The Greek originated Copts oppress Egypt plain and simple and are not the indigenous people of Egypt so this claim they try to use against the Egyptian Arab Muslims is nothing but Coptic propaganda that is easily refuted! Copts are Greek, Copt is simply the Greek word for Egypt; and Egypt's original name is Kemet and was black African.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdyMwkpZ9mc

Copts are again not indigenous to Egypt at all and in fact the Copts are Greek, and the Coptic language itself is nearly identical to the Greek language because they are same people!

Also a very important link about the Zionist "Israeli" false flag attacks, proving that this church bombing in Alexandria, Egypt is likely just another one of these Zionist run false flag terrorist attacks. The Zionist Mossad terrorists were very possibly also assisted by the Amerikkkan CIA's own al-CIA-duh pawns, you know that alleged "terrorist group" run again by the Amerikkkan government! Of course al-CIA-duh is most famous for the 9/11 hoax carried out by the Amerikkkans and Zionist "Israeli" Mossad as a false flag attack to justify US imperialism in the Middle East and Zionist colonialism:
http://www.veteranst...e-church-balst/

http://www.ae911truth.org/

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Posted 04 January 2011 - 02:13 AM

Another topic that is often brought up regarding alleged "specific discrimination" against Coptic Christians in Egypt (putting aside again the clear fact that Copts are disproportionately represented among Egypt's wealthiest people and richest families and that many of these rich Coptic Egyptian businessmen are in league with the Hosni Mubarak Zionist backed dictatorship and his wicked dictatorial son Gamal Mubarak the "NDP party" dictatorship heir apparent) is the Coptic claim that they are "denied permits to build new churches and carry out repairs on their existing Coptic churches". I don't doubt this is a real issue that does happen, but what these Coptic propagandist don't point out is that everyone in Egypt (be they Muslim or Coptic Christian) suffers almost exactly the same under the nearly 30 year long Hosni Mubarak dictatorship. The Copts (who likely again would try to hide or gloss over their links with the Hosni Mubarak dictatorship and that fact that this servitude and symbiotic relationship with the Mubarak dictatorship has helped Coptic Christians to again be clearly disproportionately represented among Egypt's wealthiest people, something quite at odds with alleged "discrimination" lol) would likely be extremely angered by my saying all Egyptians (Muslim and Coptic Christian) suffer nearly the same repression and denials of religious freedom in Hosni Mubarak's Egypt but I defy them to logically answer the points I will now lay forward.

So you may ask how are Egypt's Muslim majority discriminated against and denied their full religious freedom under the dictatorship and authoritarian reign of the Amerikkkan/Zionist puppet Hosni Mubarak (who while a secular servant of the Zionists, still claims to be a "Muslim")?! Well the answer is quite simple the reality is that any Egyptian (again be they Muslim or Christian) that stands up to Hosni Mubarak or does anything (often in a religious sense) that Hosni Mubarak and his goons find to be threatening to their secular US/Zionist "Israeli" supported dictatorship faces the same chance of being either killed or disappeared (i.e. locked up forever in Hosni Mubarak's torture dungeons and never heard from again).

For example it is well known that the Hosni Mubarak(la) dictatorship maintains extremely tight controls and pressures on Egypt's Islamic scholars (Ulama) and supports and rewards what should be termed "court scholars" that is using the old meaning of someone who uses his position of influence (in this case religious leadership) to support and enable a despot or King and what else is Hosni Mubarak but a dictator Pharaoh?! All the Islamic scholars of Egypt's main Islamic school Al-Azhar University in Cairo are completely hand picked by Mubarak and vetted by Mubarak's goons as being people who will take their orders directly from the government of Hosni Mubarak. Anyone among the Islamic leadership in Egypt who even dares to do even the smallest thing standing up to Hosni Mubarak: be it mentioning the evil of secular culture and filthy entertainment permeating Egypt or maybe mentioning Hosni Mubarak's collusion with the Zionist "Israeli" regime against the oppressed Palestinians again will be quickly taken out or at the very least arrested and sent to prison for a long time. The clearest example of this is how the Hosni Mubarak regime has completely banned the hugely popular Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) party from taking part in Egyptian politics and elections, and has arrested much of the Ikhwan's leadership and locked them away in prisons: http://www.ikhwanweb.com/

The Ikhwan is known by all true Egyptians to be for justice, unity, and complete freedom of religious practice for all religious groups in Egypt. In fact the group calling itself "al-Qaeda" (aka al-CIA-duh) has openly shown hatred and hostility towards Ikhwan, and the Ikhwan of Egypt have themselves condemned the idiocy of al-CIA-duh or what the Zionist media claims is "al-Qaeda"! Isn't this just more proof that the US CIA sicks their al-CIA-duh (aka "al-Qaeda") controlled attack dogs on anyone the Amerikkkan and Zionist "Israeli" imperialists don't like?!!! First it was al-CIA-duh against the Soviet Russians, know it is al-CIA-duh against the Islamic Republic of Iran, the Hezbollah Mujahideen, Hamas, and the Ikhwan of Egypt. It is not just a mere coincidence that al-CIA-duh becomes an enemy of anyone the US and Zionist "Israelis" don't like, because we all know the West and Zionists created and control "al-Qaeda" again aka al-CIA-duh! al-CIA-duh are Western created false flag artists and agent provocateurs, etc. against the Muslim Ummah attempting to weaken it from within.

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Just one of countless examples of the way the Zionist controlled secularist dictator Hosni Mubarak(la) oppresses and limits the freedom of Egypt's Muslims is the following news story from November 20, 2010 (it was done back then right before the recent fraud "vote" in Egypt that Hosni Mubarak openly stole yet again)

Press TV Egypt arrests 300 Brotherhood members

Quote- Egyptian security forces have arrested another 300 members of the Muslim Brotherhood across the country, less than 10 days before the legislative elections.


The Muslim Brotherhood, the largest opposition group in Egypt, said on Friday that the arrests took place in several towns, including Alexandria, on Friday. Almost half of the arrests were in the port city of Alexandria, where dozens were also injured.

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Thus nobody has their full rights in Hosni Mubarak(la)'s dictatorship of Egypt. I'm sure the Hosni Mubarak regime does limit permits and such things for churches to Copts, especially if it wants to make sure those Coptic Christians understand that the Hosni Mubarak dictatorship is in full control, but again the Hosni Mubarak regime does the exact same thing to Egyptian Muslims that dare to call for change or more openly the removal of the Mubarak dictatorship and its oppression and betrayal of Egypt and the Muslim Ummah as a whole. One might argue the Egyptian Muslims were engaged in "politics" so this is allegedly different than Coptic Christians just "practicing their religion". Yet this is easily refuted on two points, first the Coptic Christians themselves are heavily involved in Egyptian politics and attempt to organize their communities in united voting blocks so any oppression or lack of freedom of practice for Copts (just like for Egypt's Muslims) must be looked at from a political angle and what the exact angle of the Hosni Mubarak regime is in that specific case. Then secondly, it is not just for open politics that Egypt's Muslims face suppression and discrimination by the dictatorship of the secularist Hosni Mubarak (who in no way rules by any form of Islamic law at all, Mubarak instead implements completely secular "Western" influenced laws in Egypt) it can be and often is simply for appearing to be too religiously Muslim (i.e. too practicing of the Islamic faith). While it is true the Mubarak dictatorship targets these faithful Muslims mostly because it views them as the most likely people to challenge the corrupt rule of the munafiq (sinner) Hosni Mubarak the Zionist puppet dictator, this in no way changes the reality that these Muslims were and are oppressed simply because they closely follow the religion of Islam and teachings of the Prophet (SAW) and thus are a "threat" to the tyrannical rule of Zionist puppet dictators like Hosni Mubarak(la) and his filthy evildoer son Gamal Mubarak(la).

Ask any Egyptian Muslim and they can tell of cases of Egyptian Muslim scholars in their own town disappearing (after Mubarak's goons took them away) or about how the local leadership of every Masjid (Mosque) in Egypt has to be approved and vetted by the Egyptian security forces (i.e. the goons of the dictator Hosni Mubarak). I personally even heard in a reliable speech by a renowned Sunni Muslim scholar (who is a white American convert to Islam) who had studied in Al-Azhar University in Cairo, Egypt that at least once one of his religious classes at Al-Azhar University had almost half of its class members arrested and disappeared overnight (he himself was a white American visitor to Egypt but these students were most if not all Egyptian Muslims) this means again they were arrested because of the paranoia of the dictator Hosni Mubarak. One can read history and see dictators like Saddam al-Baathi(la) in Iraq and Shah Muhammad Reza Pahlavi(la) in pre-Revolutionary Iran did the same things to Muslim students of knowledge.

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A last good point to known that reliable stories have said Coptic Christian Egyptians have said in a free election (which the Ikhwan aka Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt would most certainly easily win) they would vote for the Ikhwan (Muslim Brotherhood) against the dictator Hosni Mubarak(la) and his tyrant son Gamal Mubarak(la)'s "NDP party".

Edited by Basra, 04 January 2011 - 02:21 AM.




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