Quote- I blame israel for this for years they have been trying to cause strife between muslims and christians in egypt for their interest divide and conquer that one of their national objectives to weaken egypt.. we dont have to go far to remember Lavon affair do we. its clear as anything israel did it to cause strife, i hope egyptian christians figure this out.
The Western kuffar Zionist Jewish owned media and their allies are trying to point the finger of blame (along with the Zionist controlled dictator of Egypt Hosni Mubarak and his filthy evildoer son Gamal Mubarak) at the Muslims; but this ignores the history of Zionist "Israeli" false flag terrorist attacks that have occurred in Egypt. This very real possibility is just being completely ignored or mocked by the Zionist Jewish owned Western "mainstream" media. Yet this is just what the Zionist Jews have always wanted Muslims and Christians fighting each other; the Zionist Jews hate both Muslims and Christians and want us to destroy each other so they (i.e. the Zionist Jews) can reign supreme in the world.
The most famous Zionist "Israeli" false flag attack (http://en.wikipedia....wiki/False_flag) in Egypt was the Lavon Affair: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Lavon_Affair
Quote- The Lavon Affair refers to a failed Israeli covert operation, code named Operation Susannah, conducted in Egypt in the Summer of 1954. As part of the false flag operation, a group of Egyptian Jews were recruited by Israeli military intelligence for plans to plant bombs inside Egyptian, American and British-owned targets. The attacks were to be blamed on the Muslim Brotherhood, Egyptian Communists, "unspecified malcontents" or "local nationalists" with the aim of creating a climate of sufficient violence and instability to induce the British government to retain its occupying troops in Egypt's Suez Canal zone. The operation caused no casualties, except for the members of the cell who committed suicide after being captured.
The operation became known as the Lavon Affair after the Israeli defense minister Pinhas Lavon, who was forced to resign because of the incident, or euphemistically as the Unfortunate Affair or The Bad Business (Hebrew: העסק ביש, HaEsek Bish or העסק הביש, HaEsek HaBish). After being denied for 51 years, the surviving agents were in 2005 officially honored with a certificate of appreciation by the Israeli President Moshe Katzav.
It is worth noting this bombing occurred soon after a large Zionist "Israeli" spy ring was uncovered in Egypt and stopped. http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-12043290 Egypt uncovers 'Israeli spy ring' Could this have been the impetus (or reason) that the Zionist "Israeli" Mossad decided to launch this false flag now!
Also it is known that the Amerikkkan/Zionist backed puppet dictator Hosni Mubarak(la) wants to place his wicked/corrupt son Gamal Mubarak(la) in power soon; what better way to do this then causing chaos in Egypt and claiming the need for "state action against terrorism" much as the US did with the "Patriot Act"! Yet another thing that must be said is the truth of al-CIA-duh as the mainstream Zionist owned media seems to be trying to claim "al-Qaeda" (again al-CIA-duh) was allegedly behind this Egyptian church bombing.
What I will say that will likely be unpopular but it is the truth and that is the facts that Coptic lies and propaganda have overshadowed and hid. This is the reality that Coptic Christians are both not the alleged "indigenous people" of Egypt and that rich Coptic Christians (via their alliance with the Hosni Mubarak government) are oppressing Egypt's 80 million people 90%+ of which are poor oppressed Egyptian Muslims. The Coptic church is treated as above the law in Egypt. http://english.aljaz...1612990143.html
Quote- But Muslims argue that the Coptic church is above the state law, enjoying protections and safeguards not extended to society at large.
The Copts are disproportionately represented among Egypt's richest families and these rich Copts are closely tied to the Mubarak dictatorship. Egypt has one of the largest gaps between haves and have nots (i.e. one of the nations where the wealthiest few hold the most power and money over the poor masses). The richest family in Egypt (that has their mouths right to the ear of power and is high up in the corrupt "NDP" party of Hosni Mubarak(la) is the Coptic Sawiris family.
The patriarch of this corrupt Coptic Sawiris family is a Copt named Onsi Sawiris; one of Onsi Sawiris' sons with the most clear links and large influence on the corrupt Zionist run dictatorship of Hosni Mubarak is Nassef Sawiris. http://en.wikipedia..../Nassef_Sawiris
Another of Egypt's wealthiest thieves is the Copt; Fayez Sarofim: http://en.wikipedia....i/Fayez_Sarofim
These are the two wealthiest people in Egypt: the Sawiris and the Sarofim thief who lives in Amerikkka at the moment.
Don't let some of Wikipedia's propaganda fool you with claims of these rich Coptic thieving businessmen's alleged "philanthropy"; they like all of Egypt's other rich businessmen are oppressors of the Egyptian nation serving and benefiting from the US/Zionist puppet dictator of Egypt Hosni Mubarak(la) and his extremely corrupt son Gamal Mubarak(la).
Another one of the Coptic Christians biggest myths and lies is their claim that they are allegedly among the "indigenous people" of Egypt; they attempt to use this false claim to try to say that Egypt's Arab Muslim majority is "foreign" even though the Copts themselves are again not "indigenous" to Egypt and are simply a mixture of Greeks and Arabs (the word Copt itself is just the Greek word for Egypt).
Quote- In the Copts of Egypt, we do not find any of the characteristic features of the Ancient Egyptian population. The Copts are the result of crossbreeding with all the nations that successfully dominated Egypt. It is wrong to seek in them the principal features of the old race.
Truth be told the Nubians and other extremely dark skinned black Africans are the real indigenous Egyptians, read up on Kemet the Copts are mostly Greek and Arab, so they came to Egypt at about the exact same time as Arab Muslims. Again both Greeks and Arabs came after Nubian Muslims were already living in Egypt, so Nubian Muslims are more indigenous than any Coptic Christian (see Anwar el-Sadat and others). This just destroys Coptic myths and propaganda. Again the most truly indigenous people of Egypt are the Nubian people of southern Egypt who are almost all Muslims. The Nubians had the first Egyptian kingdom, in Egypt's south that was located at Memphis, Egypt.
Picture of Nubian Egyptian Muslims from the southern Egyptian city of Aswan. The black Nubian Muslim Egyptians are those with with the strongest claim to being indigenous to the land of Egypt, not the Coptic Christians who are Greek and Arab.
The source of this above picture: http://www.evcal.org/NileCruise.html caption at this website reads: "Nubians at the Aswan Botanic Garden, Egypt"
Again this is the reality, but it in no way justifies the bombing of the Coptic church. One must read real history and see that the Copts themselves assisted the Muslim Arabs and fought with them against the Byzantine Empire's occupation of Egypt. The Copts wanted to be ruled by the Muslims, not the oppressive Byzantine Empire.
Some good points:
Quote- Top Egyptian Cleric Denounces Pope Benedict’s Double Standards
During a press conference Al-Azhar’s Grand Cleric Ahmed Al-Tayeb denounced Pope Benedict XVI’s biased reaction to the blast in Alexandria questioning why he didn’t ask for the Muslims to be protected when they were killed in Iraq.
The Coptic church continues to imprison Cameila Shehata and Wafa Constantine who both converted to Islam after having been married to Coptic priests. The Coptic church refuses to let them simply come out in public and say they freely want to be Coptic Christians! Clearly the Coptic church is holding these Muslim woman for some reason, what could it be other than the fact that they had become Muslim and the Copts didn't want this?!
Your sister Cameila Shehata, imprisoned by the Coptic church
Good video refuting the lies against Muslims and showing in real academic work that in Egypt, Coptic Christians are more likely proportionately, that is when taking into account what percentage of the total Egyptian population they form, to engage in violent extremism then Egyptian Muslims.
The Egyptian government run organ Al-Ahram brought up an interesting point in this 2009 article http://weekly.ahram....929/feature.htm
Quote- Any Muslim enterprise in Upper Egypt is now perceived by the Coptic community there as an attempt to flank the predominantly Christian villages in Upper Egypt to deny the Copts a stronghold. And every Coptic enterprise, especially if it involves Naguib Sawiris, caricatured by many as the "Coptic" business tycoon par excellence, is automatically viewed with suspicion as part of some conspiracy to establish Egypt as a Coptic zone.
This article attempts to gloss over the dominance (and completely hides the links to the Mubarak dictatorship) of the richest family in the Egypt the Coptic Sawiris family. Of the five richest people in Egypt, Copts make up 40% of them (when they are at most only 10% of the total Egyptian population). And again the Sawiris Coptic family is one of the main backers and allies of the Hosni Mubarak(la) and soon to be Gamal Mubarak(la) dictatorship, in league with the Mubarak(la)'s Zionist/Amerikkkan masters.
Also a good article detailing some more Coptic crimes. From back in 2009 Coptic Christian rapist: "Seven killed at Coptic Christmas shooting suspected to be revenge for Muslim girl's rape." Yet Copts get away with their crimes as they control Egypt's economy and are allies of the secular Hosni Mubarak(la) Zionist run dictatorship that oppressed mostly Egypt's Muslim peasants who are 90%+ of Egypt's 80 million people.
Quote- Exchange Student Starved While in Egypt
US Exchange Student Starved While Staying With Host Family in Egypt;
Parents Consider Lawsuit
By JERRY HARKAVY Associated Press Writer
The Associated Press
HALLOWELL, Maine - Jonathan McCullum was in perfect health at 155 pounds when he left last summer to spend the school year as an exchange student in Egypt.
But when he returned home to Maine just four months later, the 5-foot-9 teenager weighed a mere 97 pounds and was so weak that he struggled to carry his baggage or climb a flight of stairs. Doctors said he was at risk for a heart attack.
McCullum says he was denied sufficient food while staying with a family of Coptic Christians[/b], who fast for more than 200 days a year, a regimen unmatched by other Christians.
But he does not view the experience as a culture clash. Rather, he said, it reflected mean and stingy treatment by his host family, whose broken English made it difficult to communicate.
"The weight loss concerned me, but I wanted to stick out the whole year," he said in an interview at his family's home outside Augusta.
Friends and teachers at his English-speaking school in Egypt urged him to change his host family, but he stayed put after being told the other home was in a dangerous neighborhood of Alexandria.
After returning to the U.S., he was hospitalized for nearly two weeks. The 17-year-old has regained about 20 pounds, but his parents say he's not the same boy he was when he left under the auspices of AFS Intercultural Programs.
"He was outgoing, a straight-A student, very athletic. Now, he's less spontaneous and more subdued," said his mother, Elizabeth McCullum, who was shocked when she met her son at the airport on Jan. 9 and saw he had lost one-third his weight.
Jonathan McCullum's parents said the exchange program should have warned them that students placed with Coptic families would be subject to dietary restrictions.
Lastly, I just wanted to again say rip to all those killed in this terrible bombing and I hope that whoever did the crime will soon be uncovered and punished. Also I'm not denying that despite their disproportionate wealth (and thus be extension influence) that Coptic Christians in Egypt don't face problems like instances of discrimination; but these are blown out of proportion by the Western Zionist owned media that themselves kill Palestinians and have murdered well over 1 million Iraqis (mostly Muslims).
A true genocide is what happened to the Native Americans by white European Christians, today there is nobody around practicing the Mayan, Aztec, or Inca religions because white European Christian invaders exterminated all of them!
Coptic Christians are up to 10% of Egypt's population today, and had the Muslims of Egypt wanted to allegedly "force" Coptic Christians to either "convert to Islam or be killed" (as some idiots claim Egypt's Muslims allegedly want to) nothing would've stopped them and their wouldn't be any Coptic Christians around today! But this is no the case Muslims have been kind and protected the Coptic Christians, so much so that wealthy Copts have betrayed this trust and oppressed Egypt's Muslim majority.
Edited by Basra, 03 January 2011 - 06:47 AM.