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Salam SaudaraRosley,

Nok tanya sikit...betul ke dudok tranung ni? Ke asal je tranung? Ambe pun dudok di negeri penyu jugok... Payoh betul nok cari AB kat negeri yg orang dia banyok makang sutung ni.. Ada masa sila contanct ambe kat emel ni : haris.sr7<at>gmail.com. Boleh kita kenal2. Ambe nok hator mesej kut private message dok buleh lg.

B) (salam) Saudara Kayjay, baru tgk ari ni shiachat, memang dudok dan asal tengganung, lama doh dari kecik lagi hok lain tak ingat apalah. Dulu makang gok sotong tapi lening tinggal abih dah...Nanti ada masa saya email kat saudara.

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Sdr Rosley, molek benorlah tu... org tranung pior... saya tunggu email saudara.

B) (salam) penda molek benor... .... baru aje balah email sakni...

Wassalam.

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Salam semua. (rasanya ada 2 org je yg aktif kat sini Rosley dan Gypsy (just realised the name change Zareen)).

Ibnu Azmi baru saja buat satu lagi Vlog utk menjawab rancangan Eksklusif di TV1 Khamis lepas. Berani betul dia ni.. sekarang ni seolah2nya makin ramai AB di Malaysia yg tak bertaqiyya. Harapnya tak ada apa2 yg berlaku pada beliau..

Satu lagi perkara pelik ialah kenapa Ustaz Abdullah dan Pak Malik dlm rancangan TV tu tidak diambil tindakan sama seperti mereka yg di Gombak???

Anyway, inilah link jawapan oleh Ibnu Azmi:

http://youtu.be/RZCj_up07w8

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I’ve done more translation from the Malaysian propaganda documentary to English. I don’t plan to post the lengthy translation here because it can mess up the discussion in this topic. I am just leaving a link to the translation. http://researchintoothersects.blogspot.com/2012/02/continue-reading-propaganda-documentary.html

If for whatever reason you are unable to access my blog or the above link, then please let me know so I can make the translation available here.

The story is getting exciting, now that they have started visiting the Shia Imamiah Groups in Malaysia.

Satu lagi perkara pelik ialah kenapa Ustaz Abdullah dan Pak Malik dlm rancangan TV tu tidak diambil tindakan sama seperti mereka yg di Gombak???

Susah nak mengambil tindakan kerana mereka masih tidak faham kepercayaan kita. Sekarang ini mereka sedang mengumpulkan intelligence pasal kita. Lihatlah nanti.

Have you noticed that each time they tried to set traps for us, they are made to look very foolish. They are just gathering information about us so they can deal with us more effectively. They can’t gather intelligence about us if the Malaysian Shias are hiding their belief.

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Terima kasih kerana menterjemah Gypsy. harapnya mereka yg tak faham Bahasa Melayu mendapat manfaat.

Episod ke-2 rancangan eksklusif TV1 ttg Syiah akan ke udara minggu depan. 16..2.2012 10.30pm. Siapa2 di luar negara yg berminat utk lihat fitnah2 jahat RTM bolehlah tengok secara online juga di http://www.rtm.gov.m...veStreamingTV1/ .

Do you have a recording of the second episode? I was late by an hour. I missed the show. :(

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Sorry, Zareen. I don't. But don't worry, al-ahkam.net would surely upload it soon. Will post here when they do.

In the meantime, this might be interesting to listen too. It was held recently in Taman Permata:

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a lot of money is being spent on these activities. I think they are really freaking out over the spread of Shiism in Malaysia.

I am listening to that seminar in Taman Permata. The one with the moto of "United to Reject Shia"

I am seeing some similar people. The guy from jakim from the propaganda documentary is a speaker. The wahabi guy from Madina is rude - I heard him saying "tak kenal maka tak benci".

Edited by Gypsy

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The lies are sickening. They hired another idiot Sunni Mullahs who knows absolutely nothing about Syiahs to give his so-called expert opinion. He seems to be inventing a new religion a hybrid of Nusayrias, Ismailis Qaramita etc. He would definitely benefit from reading my blog.

The politician Mullah can bark like a dog but doesn't have much to show for. Is the guy in the blue shirt retarded or something?

Don't you find the question from the audience exciting? One guy wanted to know what will happen to Abdullah bin Hassan, the Shia practitioner. He was whining about how the government is not taking action on him. The jerk who was answering was happy and sarcastic when he said "so we are confident that the questioner was a Sunni or is he a Shia wanting to know..."

There are so many people complaining about government not taking enough actions on the Syiah. Another man was quiet angry that he even volunteer to provide all the information to the authority so they can quickly move and handle the Shia problem in Malaysia.

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Actually, I didn't watch till the end... too boring. It's good that you pointed out about the question on what action would be taken on Ustaz Abdullah Hassan. (Ustaz Abdullah was one of the 10 detained under ISA last time.. that's why he speaks freely on the subject).

THe guy in blue is a lecturer at MEDIU. Medina Islamic University based in Shah Alam which is funded by you-know-who.

Oh yes, I'm not sure whether you know of the consistent attack on shias and shiism in Malaysia ever since the Gombak raid. (newspaper articles, ceramahs at mosques and suraus, forums, state -sponsored seminar by the PAS-led govt in Kedah, "dialogue" with 2 shia brothers in Perak, Friday khutbahs etc.) Also, there were some 'blunders' made by some shia brothers themselves. I think a time will come when people will become fed-up with too much 'hyping' of the issue by the wahhabis and the government.

This is the link to the video of the "dialogue" in Perak:

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So what do you think will happen to Ustaz Abdullah Hassan? I hope no one takes him to jail again :( He is very old. People should just give the poor guy a break.

I know about constant attack on Shias in Malaysia. But nowadays, it has gone to an unprecedented level. I have not seen soo much propaganda against syiah. It seems like the Sunnism in Malaysia now revolves around Malaysia Syiah.

Thanks for all the videos you are providing here. I do have the desire to translate them into English. Insha Allah, it will be done soon. Meanwhile keep on posting what you have here so more people are aware of our plight.

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I don't think anything will happen to him. We got news that the'ustazs' sent to 'purify' his (and the other ISA detainees') aqidah in Kamunting failed miserably to the extent that even the wardens who were watching the debates acknowledged that our arguments are stronger. We are not like Al-Arqam.

I think this continued attack on shiism is part of the worldwide agenda set by the 'W' people. If there weren't any outside instigation, there would be less fitna on us. Remember, just after receiving a huge amount of money from the Saudis, the PM offered to send troops to help the Bahrainis "retain order" there. This is nice read from Malaysiakini about the 'war on shias' http://www.malaysiakini.com/columns/189388

Oh yes, thanks for your effort in translating those videos.May Allahreward you for that. However, I have something else in mind (rather than translating those videos) which I think you may be able to help. Will email you about it,insha Allah.

May the light of truth spread to the 'nusantara' region especially and the other parts of the world in general.

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Salam.

Fitnah terhadap AB terlalu banyak skrg. Cubalah search di youtube. Search 'syiah melayu' atau 'syiah malaysia' dan perhatikan berapa banyak video2 yg telah di-upload.

Ini salah satu drpd-nya.. Ada idea tak macamana nak menjawab video ni?

(Attn 'Gypsy' - plz check your email. TQ.)

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This was shown on prime time news on TV3 last year (some time after the raid on Hawzah Ar-Ridha in Gombak. Look at the 'fitnah' made by the so-called religious experts. They are not randomly selected.

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Fitnah terbaru. Rancangan Soal Jawab di TV3 pada 29 Feb 2012. 11pm.

Rancangan: Soaljawab

Tajuk: Cabaran Umat Islam Ketika Ini

Pengacara: Ahmad Nor Sulaiman

Panelis: Dato' Hj Osman Mustafa KP JAKIM & Tan Sri Abd Shukor Husin Pengerusi JK Fatwa Kebangsaan

Terbitan: TV3

Tarikh: 29 Feb 2012 Pukul 11.00 malam

Download: mediafire.com

Note: Iklan TV tak dibuang :)

Link utk download rakaman audio rancangan ini: http://www.mediafire.com/?fw6vz60s574ai8p

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Salam.

Saya dapati bukan sahaja kita ditindas oleh pemerintah, tetapi juga oleh parti-parti politik. Kononnya memperjuangkan Islam tapi rasuah jugak.. Kata berjuih-juih kepada orang lain, tapi ta** di badan sendiri yang bususk itu tak nampak..

Yang terbaru, di Kota Bharu buku-buku ulama kita "banned".

Saya rasa nak kempen untuk Syiah jadi calon PRU 13.

Contoh, Ustaz Kamil sebagai MP di Gombak dan Ustaz Abdullah di Pendang. Kita mesti dapatkan hak untuk bersuara. Semoga Allah lindungi setiap orang dari kita daripada kejahatan dan kebusukan hati mereka.

Btw, kawan saya kata Ustaz kamil patut sepina Mufti untuk jelaskan larangan untuk berkabung untuk Imam Hussain. tanya dekat Mufti ni dia kenal kaa cucu Rasulullah? Dia tahu ke cucu Rasulullah ni imam dalam keadaan duduk dan (kalau tak salah saya hadis tu kata) baring? Atau sebenarnya dia tak kenal siapa cucu Rasulullah ni? Cross exam dia jugak, tahu tak Imam Hussain dibunuh di Karbala pada 10 Muharram? Tanya kat dia agama dia suruh ke dia celebrate Thaipusam kat Batu Caves? Kalau memperingati orang yang melawan pemerintah yang zalim salah, anak Rasulullah lagi salah, kenapa tak haul up pemimpin yang pegi celebrate Thaipusam kat Batu Caves, Selangor?

Sekian, wassalam.

semoga Allah bantu kalian dalam hearing di bulanNya pada Julai, 2012..

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Salam saudara semua.

Terbaru daripada Partai IslAm Semelaysia:-

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/bahasa/article/syiah-jika-berkembang-akan-tindas-sunni-kata-pas-kelantan/

Saya take comfort pada 2 perkara:-

1. "..Kita tidak boleh biarkan fahaman Syiah berkembang dengan bebas, walaupun kita hormati pegangan dia.."

2. "..fahaman dan ajaran Syiah adalah menyeleweng daripada pegangan Ahli Sunah Waljamaah.."

Saya rasa lebih baik tunduk dan patuh pada raja, betul tak PAS Kelantan?

"Syiah jika berkembang akan tindas Sunni, kata PAS Kelantan

Oleh Md Izwan

June 15, 2013

KUALA LUMPUR, 15 Jun -- Timbalan Menteri Besar Kelantan Datuk Mohd Amar Nik Abdullah menyatakan kebimbangan penganut majoriti Sunni di Malaysia bakal ditindas sekiranya pengikut mazhab Syiah dibiarkan berkembang dalam negara.

Mohd Amar menegaskan walaupun terdapat sebilangan pengikut Syiah dibenarkan untuk mengamalkan mazhab tersebut, hakikatnya mazhab Sunnah Wal Jamaah adalah majoriti di Malaysia dan status tersebut perlu dipertahankan serta dikekalkan. "Kita tidak boleh biarkan fahaman Syiah berkembang dengan bebas, walaupun kita hormati pegangan dia, tapi dalam konteks masyarakat kita di Malaysia, pada pandangan kita, kerajaan persekutuan dan kerajaan Kelantan sendiri, pegangan kita adalah Sunnah Wal Jamaah," kata Mohd Amar yang dipetik berkata dalam akhbar harian Utusan Malaysia hari ini.

"Kumpulan Syiah ini apabila mereka diatas, mereka menekan orang-orang Sunni," kata beliau lagi. Menurut timbalan pesuruhjaya III PAS negeri Kelantan itu lagi, PAS merupakan sebuah parti yang mengamalkan mazhab Sunnah Wal Jamaah dan tidak akan membiarkan pengaruh Syiah berkembang dalam parti itu sendiri.

"Pegangan PAS adalah Sunnah Wal Jamaah, bukan Syiah," tegasnya lagi. Mengikut Enakmen Pentadbiran Perundangan Islam 1989, fahaman dan ajaran Syiah adalah menyeleweng daripada pegangan Ahli Sunah Waljamaah kerana wujud beberapa percanggahan dari sudut akidah dan syariah.

Jabatan Kemajuan Islam Malaysia (JAKIM) juga telah mengeluarkan fatwa dengan mengenakan larangan dan sekatan terhadap mana-mana mazhab selain Sunnah Wal Jamaah untuk tidak menyebarkan fahaman dan ajaran mereka di Malaysia.

Pada 2010, Jabatan Agama Islam Selangor (JAIS) telah menahan kira-kira 200 pengikut dan dua ketua kumpulan pengikut mazhab Syiah di sebuah rumah kedai di Taman Sri Gombak, Batu Caves kerana dikhuatiri boleh mengancam keselamatan dan menyampaikan ajaran menyeleweng.

Selain itu, tokoh agamawan bekas mufti Perlis Datuk Dr Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin juga pernah ditahan sekitar tahun 2009 semasa sedang memberi syarahan oleh JAIS dan dituduh cuba menyampaikan ajaran yang bertentangan dengan ajaran Islam sebenar kepada pengikutnya.

Di Malaysia, masyarakat Melayu yang membentuk 60 peratus daripada keseluruhan penduduk berjumlah 28 juta orang ditakrifkan dalam Perlembagaan sebagai penganut agama Islam, maka dengan itu agama dan kaum adalah isu yang tidak dapat dipisahkan didalam negara.

Kebebasan agama termaktub dalam Perlembagaan Malaysia dibawah Fasal 11 menetapkan setiap orang mempunyai hak untuk menyatakan dan menjalankan agama nya dan (tunduk pada undang-undang yang berlaku menyekat penyebaran agama-agama lain untuk umat Islam) untuk menyebarkannya. Kedua, Perlembagaan juga menetapkan bahawa Islam adalah agama negara, tetapi agama-agama lain boleh dipraktikkan dalam damai dan harmoni (Perkara 3)."

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Salam.

 

Untuk update semua.

 

Sekurang-kurangnya mereka tak kata kita sesat. Buat pertama kalinya bercakap benar, iaitu "walaupun fahaman Syiah mengakui Rasulullah saw sebagai Nabi terakhir tetapi tidak mengiktiraf para sahabat Nabi sebagai penggantinya atau pewaris risalah kenabian maupun kepimpinan. Mereka sebaliknya mengiktiraf Khalifah Islam yang keempat, Saidina Ali bin Abi Talib sebagai pengganti Rasulullah saw dan kepimpinan umat diwarisi oleh susur galur dari keluarga Rasulullah saw (ahlul bait)."

 

Saya nak ingatkan bahawa Ali bin Abi Talib r.a. adalah pengganti Rasulullah SAAW atas nas-nas yang sangat,sangat kuat dan sangat, sangat jelas. Dan sesungguhnya Rasulullah SAAW tak pernah pun kata bahawa para sahabat adalah pengganti baginda dan adalah pewaris risalah kenabian.

 

Laporan polis ini adalah berdasarkan kenyataan "Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Jamil Khir Baharum ketika menjawab soalan parlimen pada Mac 2012 menyebut fahaman Syiah boleh diamalkan oleh para pengikutnya tetapi tidak boleh disebarkan kepada umat Islam yang lain, di mana majoritinya mengikut mazhab Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah."

 

Oleh itu jika polis mula ambil siasat, timbul persoalan: adakah polis penguatkuasa undang-undang atau penguatkuasa keinginginan dan kehendak menteri-menteri?

 

Dan atas dasar apakah menteri membuat kenyataan ini?

 

Itulah, kami sentiasa menyatakan, satu-satunya cara nak selesaikan fobia yang tak munasabah kalian terhadap kami ialah dialog antara kamu dan kami.

 

Adakan dialog antara Sunnah dan Syiah Imamiah supaya orang-orang tidak laa suka-suka ja buat laporan polis, supaya polis yang kesian memang overwork dan underpaid ini boleh buat kerja lain yang lebih penting..

 

Saudara, saudari sekalian, inilah artikelnya:-

 

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2013/07/04/facebook-jadi-medan-sebar-syiah/

Facebook jadi medan sebar Syiah

K Pragalath

July 4, 2013

 

Menurut Isma, terdapat lebih 200 akaun Facebook menyebar fahaman Syiah di negara ini.

 

KUALA LUMPUR: Ikatan Muslimin Malaysia (Isma) yang bimbang terhadap penyebaran fahaman Syiah melalui laman sesawang hari ini membuat laporan polis untuk menyekat penyebarannya.

 

Ketua Unit Kajian Syiah Isma, Mohamad Ismail membuat laporan polis di Ibu Pejabat Kontinjen Polis Selangor di Shah Alam petang tadi.

 

“Terdapat lebih 200 akaun dalam laman rangkaian sosial Facebook yang menyebarkan fahaman Syiah. Kami telah pun mengenalpasti profil akaun Facebook mereka.

 

“Antaranya yang bernama Al-Hadhari, Al-Jafari, Al-Mahdi. Terdapat juga satu blog bernama kamilzuhairi.blogspot.com,” katanya ketika dihubungi FMT.

 

Beliau mendakwa akaun Facebook tersebut digunakan untuk menyebar hadith-hadith yang mencaci para sahabat Nabi Muhammad saw.

 

Tambahnya penyebaran fahaman Syiah adalah bertentangan dengan fatwa kebangsaan yang hanya membenarkan penyebaran pegangan mazhab Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

 

Di Malaysia, isu mazhab Syiah dan Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah merupakan isu yang sensitif kerana Malaysia tidak mengiktiraf penyebaran fahaman Syiah di kalangan umat Islam.

 

Walaupun fahaman Syiah mengakui Rasulullah saw sebagai Nabi terakhir tetapi tidak mengiktiraf para sahabat Nabi sebagai penggantinya atau pewaris risalah kenabian maupun kepimpinan.

 

Mereka sebaliknya mengiktiraf Khalifah Islam yang keempat, Saidina Ali bin Abi Talib sebagai pengganti Rasulullah saw dan kepimpinan umat diwarisi oleh susur galur dari keluarga Rasulullah saw (ahlul bait).

 

Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Jamil Khir Baharum ketika menjawab soalan parlimen pada Mac 2012 menyebut fahaman Syiah boleh diamalkan oleh para pengikutnya tetapi tidak boleh disebarkan kepada umat Islam yang lain, di mana majoritinya mengikut mazhab Ahli Sunnah Wal Jamaah.

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Salam.

 

Lagi update.

 

Memang mereka menghina kita. Kedua-dua yang ditahan telah bermalam di dalam lokap.

 

Sangat kasihan, ramadan pulak tu. Lebih kasihan lagi anak-anak mereka.

 

Doa saya: Semoga Allah memberi keselamatan dan kebaikan kepada semua orang yang terinaya dan semoga balasan kepada penzalim adalah pantas dan menyelesaikan.

 

Sementara itu, Selamat hari Raya kepada semua dan sesiapa sahaja yang merayakannya. Maaf zahir batin.

 

Wassalam.

 

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/beritakomentar/58626-dua-ditahan-di-perak-kerana-bermazhab-syiah

Dua ditahan di Perak kerana bermazhab Syiah

(Bernama) - Jabatan Agama Islam Perak (JAIPK) menahan dua individu, termasuk seorang doktor wanita, di Kamunting, Taiping, Perak kerana dipercayai terbabit dengan fahaman serta ajaran Syiah.

 Pengarah JAIPK, Datuk Mohd Yusop Husin, berkata mereka yang ditahan ialah Dr Nur Azah Abdul Halim, 41, dan Mohammad Ridzuan Yusof, 51.

Dr Nur Azah ditahan di Medan Kamunting, Taiping manakala Mohammad Ridzuan ditahan di sebuah premis di Kampung Klian Pauh Baru, Jalan Kamunting Lama, Taiping dalam serbuan yang bermula jam 11.25 pagi semalam.

"Dalam serbuan itu, JAIPK merampas buku, cakera padat (CD) dan poster," katanya melalui khidmat pesanan ringkas.

Beliau berkata mereka ditahan mengikut Seksyen 16, Enakmen Jenayah Perak 1992 iaitu mengingkari fatwa mufti kerana memiliki buku dan dokumen berkaitan Syiah.

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I think you should understand that the Yanks are in Afghanistan due to politics played by Iran and Tajiks in Afghanistan and the FAILURE of Iranian government IN TIME to understand that 9-11 FalseFlag was a racist Inside Job and that Israeli agent, Adam Gadahn penetrated the taliban. This is the reason for Terrorism in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Iran did not give support or advice to Musharraf when it was really NEEDED. The Americans bought the loyalty of the Northern Alliance with a rain of dollars very cheap and since then drugs have increased and poured into Iran as well as Pakistan. Nothing was gained by partisanship.

 

On the other hand, Mahathir bin Mohammad showed his smarts and insight during the Asian currency crisis. Malaysia was the only one. The Tajiks went after the rain of dollars to backstab their countrymen, the Pashtuns. In addition, the Tajiks are creating big mischief by talking about changing Pakistan-Afghanistan border, ie the Durand Line. Iran is pro-Tajik due to the common language of farsi.

 

It is also true that right after 9-11, Mahathir was the first to clearly say that "jews fight by proxy."

 

The second fact is that Divisiveness and beating the drum to gain more converts is not helpful.

 

Thirdly, the actions of some shia elements, namely, Altaf "Bhai" of the Mohajir Qaumi Movement (MQM) and corruption of Asif Ali Zardari have been quite damaging to Pakistan and the Pakistani nation.

 

It would be better if we, the Shia look into our own deeds and introspection, rather than pointing fingers at the sunni, except when we deal with the wahhabis and our righteousness is clear.

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