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#1 Orion

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 12:56 AM

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Dear Brothers,

I dont know if this has been discussed before. But a man called Ahmad al-Hassan from Basra (Iraq) is claiming to be a "messenger" of Imam Mahdi (ATFS).

This is what I know so far:

-His name is Ahmad al-Hassan. His followers call him Imam Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yemeni.
-He is from Basra, Iraq.
-He is middle aged.
-No photos available.
-They put (as) in front of his name.
-His followers think he is "a mahdi" before THE IMAM MAHDI (ATFS).
-They think he is Wasi of Rasool Allah (pbuh).
-They say he is the al-Yemeni described in Shia books of hadith.
-And that Prophet (S) had told us about him (his name) in his last will, before passing away.
-They say this will of Rasool Allah can be found in Behar al-Anwar and many other Shia books.
-His followers say that Ayatullah Sistani and Ayatullah Shirazi (and one more scholar) has issued a fatwa against him (death sentence) so he has gone into hiding.

Now we already know from hadith that anyone claiming to be a messenger from Imam Mahdi (ATFS) is a liar. Also there are hadith that tell us such impostors will claim before Imam Mahdi's (ATFS) arrival. We should be aware of such people. He wants people to follow him and not the scholars, Marjas (sounds familiar?). I think some enemies of Islam are really scared of the increasing power and popularity of our Marjas, and they are starting such fitnas to misguide people.

Does anyone has more information about this man and his intentions.

WS

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Posted 13 September 2010 - 01:42 AM

Salam,

Ahmed Alhassan, there is a website on this guy, i dont have it with me atm but ill post it up, This guy is a fake a imposter, he says dont follow the maraj3 because they are all wrong, and that he needs ansar to hasten the reapperance of our imam.
There are some people that follow this guy in my place where i live, no one talks to them. There is a room on paltalk dedicated to him, you guys should hear them, they are so wack.
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Posted 13 September 2010 - 04:59 AM

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Ahmed Al-Hassan is the head of Ansaar al-Mahdi. His followers believe that he is the son and messenger of Imam Mahdi (a.j)....Astaghfirullah
From Mahdiwatch.org

Father Knows Best (Especially When He's the Mahdi)
I have been in contact with representatives of Sayyid al-Yamani, the head of the group Ansar al-Mahdi in southern Iraq. Herewith are 11 questions I sent them, along with the verbatim answers:


1) What is Shaykh al-Yamani's relationship to the Mahdi?
"Sayid al Yamani (Ahmad al Hassan) is the son of Imam al Mahdi; Mohammed bin al Hassan (p), the twelfth Imam.
He is the promised Yamani ,the messenger and guardian of Imam al Mahdi; Mohammed bin al Hassan (p).


It would be useful for you to know that in the generations to come the rulers of the State of divine justice after twelve Imam Mahdi Mohammed bin Hassan (p) each of them is Mahdi by intestate Messenger of God Mohammad (pbuh).
Mahdi this title to the Imam Mohammed bin al Hassan (p), and his twelve sons , the first of whom is Sayid al Yamani (p). al Yamani true launch title Mahdi too.
2) Is al-Mahdi already here on earth?
Yes, Imam Mahdi Mohammed bin Hassan (p) is on the earth and live among the people but most of them do not know it and don't see him, and you can in this regard review many novels, which shows this sense.
3)
Is al-Mahdi the same as the Twelfth Imam returned from ghaybah?
Yes, it is quite true to say that Imam al Mahdi is the twelfth Imam Mohammed bin Hassan (p) returned from ghaybah, and also true to say that his son Sayid al Yamani (Ahmad al Hassan) also can be named Mahdi.
4)
Is al-Yamani's group Jund al-Sama' or Ansar al-Mahdi?
al Yamani group called Ansar al-Mahdi or Ansar Allah, supporters of Imam Mahdi (p) and supporters of Sayid Ahmed Hassan al Yamani; the messenger and guardian and the Imam Mahdi (p).
We are unrelated to the so-called (Jund al-Sama' ), and there is great difference between us. Ansar al-Mahdi say that Ahmed Hassan (p) is the promised Yamani, a branch of Imam Mahdi Mohammed bin Hassan (p) and his son , while the group Jund al-Sama' deny the existence of Imam Mahdi Mohammed bin Hassan (p) in total.
5) Do al-Yamani and his group have any connection to Moqtada al-Sadr and the Jaysh al-Mahdi?
No relationship whatsoever between us and Moqtada al Sadr and his army Jaysh al-Mahdi, in a passage names as it is known.
6) What is al-Yamani's opinion of the American-sponsored Iraq government in Baghdad?
The government has to be based on the principle of the Governorship of God and must derive its legitimacy from God and from Imam Mahdi Mohammed bin Hassan (p).
7) What is al-Yamani's opinion of vilayet-i faqih in Iran?


Not valid as the answer became clear to you from the previous question.

8) What sort of state in Iraq does al-Yamani envision? A caliphate? A Mahdiyah?
Government, which al Yamani see it is the government based on the principle of Governorship of God. Whatever you want to call it as the term crossing, but the lesson in reality is substance and meaning.
9) What will be the Mahdi's role once he is revealed?


Imam al Mahdi will reveal justice and installment and will be published uniformity across the globe, and re-link the right relationship of God with humans after regrettably interrupted by the ego.


10) Do al-Yamani and the Mahdi expect Sunnis as well as Shi`is to be followers?
Imam al Mahdi and Sayid al Yamani expect followers from all sects and religions. They're for all and from all.
Their aim is to pull out the state of human rights in order to reach absolute perfection and worship to God alone, which is the real freedom.
11) Is al-Yamani's group peaceful or will it wage violent jihad if need be?
You have to know first that al Yamani group represent the real message of all messengers and prophets of God on earth.
If you look and consider the march movement of all prophets (p), you will realize that the message to heaven always pursues a peace advocacy and the one that is better, Koran says: ((Say Bring proof that you are truthful)), but you will always find that the bad governors and bad scholars and Slobs will face peaceful prophets with violence, force and displacement, and then - and only then - preachers forced to defend themselves and their faith.
And to answer this question, we would say yes, the group of Al Yamani is designated to peaceful and that is all what they want from others.


http://www.mahdiwatc...03.01_arch.html"





Edited by doobybrother, 13 September 2010 - 05:00 AM.


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Posted 13 September 2010 - 07:48 AM

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The Tawqee' (letter) which Imam Mahdi (ATF) sent to his fourth and last representative, Ali bin Mohammad-e-Saimuri. after informing him of his (Ali ibn Mohammad) death Imam (ATF) said :

"...soon a time shall come when my Shias will claim to have met me. Beware! for the one who claims that, he has met me before the uprising of Sufyani and a call from the sky is a liar and a deceiver."

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 12:05 AM

Why not just wait for Imam Mehdi Sahib az zaman (as) to come and tell us he didn't send anyone before him? There have been so many people who have claimed to be The God. It's no wonder this guy is claiming to be the son or messenger or whatever of Imam Mehdi (as) because we already know from Quran and Hadees that there will be people like this guy.

Everything will be taken care of once Imam Mehdi (as) appears. This whatsisname , uh , Ahmad Al Hassan should beware the wrath of Allah. He is going to die hard.

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Posted 15 September 2010 - 06:01 AM

I don't know who these folk are but they sure are crafty.
Al-Hasan referring to the nafs-zakiyyah that will be killed.
Al-Yemeni referring to "Al-Yamani" the yellow standard of guidance.

Nasrullah is a more fitting candidate;
Yellow banner of Hizbullah and his name is Hasan.

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Posted 16 September 2010 - 03:33 AM

doobybrother, is there actually any evidence linking the Ansar al-Mahdi website to this Mahdi claimant? As far as I know its the website of the followers of Akram Majidi. The group is surrounded by some controversy of its own but I dont think anyone has ever claimed they are in any way connected to this Ahmad Hassan dude, can I ask where did you get this information from?

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Posted 18 September 2010 - 08:58 PM

that's really interresting. :unsure:

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 07:58 AM

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Wow! Another one claiming to be Imam Al Mahdi(ajt).

Anyone know why we have so many fakers? They are everywhere.

Should we maintain a list of everyone who has proclaimed to be the Mahdi so we can expose these impostors?

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 09:40 AM

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Some more info on these people:

-They say Ahmad al-Hassan is the 4th or 5th generation grandson of Imam Mahdi (ATF).
-Ahmad al-Hassan grew up in Busra, Iraq and went to Basra University. He got his degree in Engineering.
-He will gather a force of 313 + 10,000 and will appear from Khorasan with a "banner".
-He and his army will have extraordinary powers. They will defeat anyone fighting them.
-He will kill thousands of Shia scholars b/w Najaf and Karbala (Iraq).

The proof of his claim comes from 2 things.

a-A hadith, which they call, the "will" of the Prophet (S). According to them this will is written in a book by Shaikh Tusi (AR). Also it is written in Bihar al-Anwar by Allamah Majlisi (AR), Vol 53 - page 147, Vol 51 - page 218 and Vol 36 -page 260.

Those familiar with this hadith or "will" say that it is not considered "sahih" by scholars (including those who quoted it?). The hadith starts with "A group of people narrated" which means its chain is not complete. Also there are several contradictions in the hadith mattan (text) itself which indicates that its fake.

b-His Knowledge, which he has supposedly gained from Imam (ATF) himself. His followers say that he has extraordinary knowledge about Quran and beliefs, which proves that his claims are right. For example he knows the meanings of words like Alif-Lam-Meem, Ya-Seen, etc in Quran. Or he knows the real meaning (understanding) of "Salawat"

When asked that anyone can come and say that Alif-Lam-Meem means this or that and Salawat means this or that but what proof he has that what he is telling us is true. Can he give proof of his knowledge from Quran? The answer you get is that he is an Imam and once you believe in him no proof is needed. You should follow him blindly.

The above belief is against the sunnah of our Holy Imams (as) who encouraged their followers to ask them for proof of their teachings. For example look at the following hadith:

Imam Muhammad al-Baqir (as) addressing a group of believers said: Whenever I say something to you, you may ask me about its reference in the Book of God (the Noble Quran). (Usul al-Kafi, Book 2, Chapter 20, Hadith 139.5).

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 03:06 PM

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Wow! Another one claiming to be Imam Al Mahdi(ajt).

Anyone know why we have so many fakers? They are everywhere.

Should we maintain a list of everyone who has proclaimed to be the Mahdi so we can expose these impostors?


Why surprised? This was foretold to happen before Imam's (as) dhuhoor.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 04:31 AM

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[Edited]. He claims to be the first Mahdi after Imam Mahdi Posted Image. He claims to be the son of Imam mahdi Posted Image and at the same time he claims to be the yamani. They believe in 24 imams, a12 mahdis after the 12 Imams Posted Image. One who looks up their evidence will find they lie and change ahadith to prove thier beliefs.

I debated many times with them on paltalk they are bunch of lairs, they couldnt answer simple questions and when they get refuted they call lair and an enemy of ahlul albayt Posted Image.
Unfortunetly, they have many followers these days in victoria in australia shais have split into two parties Qawati3(term given to their followers) and shias.

Ahlu albayt as have taught us ways to deal with false claimers, they simply exused us from being obliged from following anyone before the comming of the sufyani and the call from the heavens. Therefore, these sighns are ways to make us certain of the real mahdi and to expose the false claimers. As it has exposed this taxi driver ahmed kati3 (LA).

Wa Salaam

Edited by inshaAllah, 02 December 2010 - 08:07 AM.
Kindly avoid comments such as So and So is a dajjal and his followers are a bunch of liars.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 11:27 AM

May Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì curse him, his followers and anyone who sympathizes with him. May Allah have mercy on the person that kills him.
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Posted 25 September 2010 - 08:32 AM

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Does anyone has more information about this man and his intentions.

WS


salam

I had a debate in paltalk with peaople who believe in him
its a joke men, these people are stupid and lyer.
i asked them if they had picx of him. they said no
a7mad al hassan came out in 1999...its been 11 year and no picx lol

i asked them about the ''say7a'' before the zohour and after the zohour ( of dajjal)
they claim that the first sayha is the fact that ulama like sistani and khamenai issued fatwa against him
and they claimed that the say7a of dajjal was a dream that george bush had in the past hhhhhhhh

they also claimed that there is 12 mahdi..ahmad el hassan is the fifth lol

im sure that people who are supporting this sect are the same who are supporting wahhabi


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Posted 25 September 2010 - 09:12 AM

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Dear Brothers,

I dont know if this has been discussed before. But a man called Ahmad al-Hassan from Basra (Iraq) is claiming to be a "messenger" of Imam Mahdi (ATFS).

This is what I know so far:

-His name is Ahmad al-Hassan. His followers call him Imam Ahmad al-Hassan al-Yemeni.
-He is from Basra, Iraq.
-He is middle aged.
-No photos available.
-They put (as) in front of his name.
-His followers think he is "a mahdi" before THE IMAM MAHDI (ATFS).
-They think he is Wasi of Rasool Allah (pbuh).
-They say he is the al-Yemeni described in Shia books of hadith.
-And that Prophet (S) had told us about him (his name) in his last will, before passing away.
-They say this will of Rasool Allah can be found in Behar al-Anwar and many other Shia books.
-His followers say that Ayatullah Sistani and Ayatullah Shirazi (and one more scholar) has issued a fatwa against him (death sentence) so he has gone into hiding.

Now we already know from hadith that anyone claiming to be a messenger from Imam Mahdi (ATFS) is a liar. Also there are hadith that tell us such impostors will claim before Imam Mahdi's (ATFS) arrival. We should be aware of such people. He wants people to follow him and not the scholars, Marjas (sounds familiar?). I think some enemies of Islam are really scared of the increasing power and popularity of our Marjas, and they are starting such fitnas to misguide people.

Does anyone has more information about this man and his intentions.

WS

Sallams, he must be some imposter. Mnay poeple in history have abused and exploited the public sentiment linked with the concept of mehdi. We had such a guy in pakistan named Gohar shahi. He used to make weird claims and ended up calling himself Al-mehdi. The local scholars issued a fatwa against him and he escaped to Uk where he died in 2003 but the story does not end. According to his followers , he has gone into "occultation" and will reappear soon.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 10:54 AM

salam alaykum

Ahmad al-hassan the dajjal of basrah. His real name is Ahmad ismael kati'e. He claims to be the first mahdi of the twelve mahdeyoon who will rule earth after imam mohamad ibn Al Hassan al mahdi ÚÌøá Çááøå ÝÑÌå ÇáÔÑíÝ. I had a debate with them on paltalk. They curse the usooli maraje3 and consider them bidah. To them, taqleed to someone who is not masoom or wasi is unlawful and haram. What a bunch of liars, i asked them if taqleed to a non masoom is unlawful then who was the hujjah or wasi before the appearence of ahmad kati3? they never answered me. I did my research on them and found out that he has a family tree >>> My link

From the family tree, obviously fabricated , he is Ahmad ibn ismael ibn saleh ibn hussain ibn salman ibn Mohammad al mahdi ÚÌøá Çááøå ÝÑÌå ÇáÔÑíÝ.

This is their main website My link

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Posted 26 November 2010 - 02:51 PM

al salam Alikum

I went through the website for Imam Ahmad Al Hasan Al Yamani http://the-savior.com it says The Savior has emerged.. the promised Paraclete from Jesus to the Christians, the messenger from Elijah to the Jews calls you to God.Messenger from imam Mahdi (as)..the Mahdi that is born during the end of time..Imam Ahmad AlHasan supported by thousands of visions & miracles

I feel it is interesting and need to study what he is claiming


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Posted 26 November 2010 - 03:17 PM

Salam to all the brothers and sisters

thank you for your topic Orion, yes many claim to be prophets, many claim to be mahdies, BUT, Many liers doesn't mean No right person!

in the era of prophet mohammed (s), there were many liers who claimed to be prophets like Sujjah, Musailamah AL-Kathab,,,etc but that doesn't mean that the prophet is also wrong!

well you asked many questions about Imam Ahmad Al-Hassan and it's nice to show the manners of Ahlul Bait in this website, not swearing I guess.

Imam Ahmad is the messenger and guradian from Imam Al-Mahdy (s), he is from Basrah and appeared year 1999 in Najaf Al-Ashraf where he met Imam Al-Mahdy personally, he has many books, bayanat and recordings by his voice. there is so much to say, please access the website for more info: Ansar Al Imam Al Mahdy

it is absolutely wrong to say there is no messengers for Imam Al-mahdy before he appear as you said, even the maraji3 said there is messengers, because Ahlul bait said that, so watch out Allah bless you from denying the narrations of our honorable Imams. The narrations about the messenger will be mentioned from authentic Shia Books.

i had also noticed that some of you still don't believe there is a will from Prophet Mohammed mentioned in the Shia authentic books, this is wrong actually, the will is there since hundreds of years and it is mentioned in the books, so why should we say it's not there and close the subject!


here is the will:


It was narrated about Abu Abdullah (pbuh) about his forefathers about Amir Al Mo’mineen (Ali PBUH) that he said: The Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said: During the night of his death: “O Father of Al Hassan, bring me a leaf and a paper”, and he dictated his will until he came to a position where he said "O Ali, there will be twelve Imams and after them there will be twelve Mahdi’s. You, O Ali, are the first of the twelve Imams, and the speech kept on going until he said: Let Al-Hassan (pbuh) hand the will to his son M O H A M M A D, the preserved of Mohammad’s Family (pbuh), and those are the twelve Imams. Then there will be twelve Mahdi’s after them. then when the day of death comes to him, let him hand the will over to his son, the first of the close ones, he has three names, one like mine and my Father’s: Abdollah (Servant of God), Ahmad and the third name is The Mahdi (the guided) and he is the first Believer.” Bihar Al Anwar (Oceans of Lights), chapter 53 page 147, and Ghaybat Al Tousi (Occultation by Al Tousi) page 150. And Ghayat Al Maram chapter 2 page 241.

Ahmad is the first believer in Imam Al-Mahdy in the era of his holy emergence.

hence, you can't disbelieve in anything new "to you" that comes across, search and be patient that Allah is with you and will not mislead you!
moreover, Imam Ahmad is the yamani mentioned by Imam Al-Baqir (s)

In a Narration about Imam Al Baqir (pbuh) (There is no banner better than that of the banner of Yamani, it is the banner of faith and dedication, because he calls to your possessor, so if the Yamani comes out, selling weapons to people or any Muslim becomes prohibited, and if the Yamani appears, stand up to him, because he’s banner is the banner of faith, and its prohibited for any Muslim to turn away from him, and who ever turns away from him, then he’s from the people of hell, because he calls to the truth and to the right path).

Here we have the right to ask:
If this flag is of such important importance, and who ever ignores it goes to hell, and the case is clear by standing up to him, then why not set any details??


We do not know the name of the Yamani or the Yamani’s description or the Yamani’s place of origin, or anything, but if we turn against him we will enter the fire of hell.


Here are the books that talk about the Imam Mahdi, where you find narrations and find many explanations about the characters of the era of emergence, except the character of the Yamani, as it is indistinct. Even though it is the most important, why is this silence on this character? Does god and his Messenger and Ahlu-albait (the family of the prophet ) want to mislead us, which they will never do (god forbid), then why is that?

Moreover, if any person claims that he is the owner of this character, we will certainly not accept him and we will ask him about the evidence.

For us it is easy, and our desires agree with us to say to whomever claims something great is lying, and we convince ourselves that his decisive argument of God was incomplete and we don’t commit ourselves to stand by him, but it is compulsory on the Yamani himself to bring us something to convince us that he is the Yamani.

(In the book of sheikh Al-Noamani published in Beirut the year 1983 page 220)

From Malik Al-Juhani he said: I said to Abu Ja'far (pbuh): “we describe the man of this matter with the aspects that no one of the people has ever had.”

He said: “No, By Allah, it is not so. It is he himself, who will argue with you about that and will invite you to it.”

And I think that the reason for the dimness of this character are at least three main reasons:

-1.so it wouldn’t be easy to claim on each claiming liar, and thus, cause disruption between people.

-2.To protect its owner from his many enemies in the era of emergence.

-3. To trial and test people to distinguish the believers and infidels, and this is the way of God with every owner of a Divine matter.

And at this point, of course many of your honors are asking, yes, so what did your “caller” come with to prove that he is the Yamani, and here is the answer:

He came in and argued the evidence (narrations of Muhammad (pbuh)) and showed who this character is, whom we are obliged to stand by and obey before the appearance of Imam Mahdi, (pbuh):

He showed us what’s the meaning of Yamani, and (pbuh) said:

You must first know that Mecca is from Tohama and Tohama is from Yemen. This means that Mohammad and his family (PBUT) are all Yamania. Mohammad (pbuh) is a Yamani, Ali (pbuh) is a Yamani and Imam Mahdi (pbuh) is a Yamani and the 12 Mahdieen are Yamania and the first Mahdi is a Yamani as well. This is what the first active (working) scholars (May god have mercy on)knew: (then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have give up As-Salat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salat (prayers) to be lost, either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fix time]and have followed lusts so they will be thrown in hell.)(Mariam-59)

now we will discuss the Yamany narration:

First) It’s prohibited for any Muslim to turn away from him, and who ever turns away from him, then he’s from the people of hell, and this means that the Yamani (is a holder of a divine mandate), as a person won’t be a decisive argument of God on people, to a point that whoever turns against him goes to hell, even if they prayed and fasted, except if he was from ((The successors of Allah on his land)).

Second) (And because he calls to the truth and to the right path). The call to the truth and the right path, or the straight path means: (That this person does not make a mistake which results in making the people do wrong, or takes them out of the straight path). In other words, He is an infallible and texts have been written about his infallibility. In this sense, this limitation and/or constraint comes in handy to define the character of The Yamani. As for the presumption of any other meaning to these words (because he calls to the truth and to the right path) then this makes the words of them (PBUTA) useless, and there won’t be a constraint and/or no limit to the character of the Yamani, and god forbid that they )PBUTA) would do such a thing.

The outcome from what came in the first and second:

The Yamani) is a decisive argument from the arguments of God on his land and is infallible with text to admit his infallibility.

Then who are the owners of the divine mandate of God? They are the prophets and messengers and guardians.

And who are the guardians after the Messenger of Allah (pbuh)?

The answer is, they are the twelve Imams and the twelve Mahdi’s... they Are mentioned by the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) on The night of misfortune After Omar said what he said, and the messenger of Allah expelled him from his house. He dictated his will, to Ali (pbuh) and it was witnessed by Abu Thar and Salman and Mokdad.


Mahdi11: let me answer what you wrote, His real name is Ahmad and his surname is Al-Hassan, the way we have Imam Ali (Al-Redha), Imam Jaáfar (Al-Sadiq), etc.

let me tell you that cursing is absolutely forbidden for us in the our rooms in paltalk and other programs, it is an order from Imam Ahmad Al-Hassan. (i dnt know if what you wrote is a lie!)

Taqleed is unlawful to anyone on earth only to al-masoomen, because they know halal and haram and they will never lead us to astray, this thing is known since long time Mahdi11, taqleed was brought around year 1920. whereas, before Imam Ahmad Al-Hassan, we have the narrations of our beloved Imams and they have completed the religion, don't you read their narrations?

read this: æÇáÕÇÏÞ (Ú) íÞæá ( ÅÐÇ ÎÑÌ ÇáÞÇÆã íäÊÞã ãä Ãåá ÇáÝÊæì ÈãÇ áÇ íÚáãæÇ ÝÊÚÓÇð áåã æáÃÊÈÇÚåã Ãæó ßÇä ÇáÏíä äÇÞÕÇð ÝÊããæå Ãã ßÇä Èå ÚæÌÇð ÝÞæãæå ¡ ....) . ÅáÒÇã ÇáäÇÕÈ Ì2 Õ200 .

it says: Imam Al-Sadiq (s) said: (if the Qai'm egresses, he takes revenge from the holders of Fatwa with what they knew not, so woe to them and to their followers! was the religion incomplete so they complete it? or it had curvature so they straighten it?,....) ilzam alnasib, part2 , pg200

what is fabricated? do you enjoy telling people you lie just because you desire? please pay attention to what is happening around.
the family tree is right and certified. access the link the picture of the family tree


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Posted 26 November 2010 - 07:30 PM

Dear brothers and sisters,

Salam Alaikom,

Happy Eid al Ghadeer - Mubarak
May the bright light of the Eid al Ghadeer fill you and all the Followers of the Holy Ahlul Bayt (as) with the Light of Joy, Peace and Happiness.

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With a lot of signs that we see in the world, it seems very likely now is the time of Imam Mahdi (ATFS) reappearance that we all have been waiting for.

For a long time, I’ve been reading and searching for all the true signs of Imam Mahdi (ATFS), and couple of years ago, all of the sudden I heard about Ahmad al-Hassan and his issue.
I told myself this guy could be wrong or could be Right. So I gave the man a 50/50 chance.
I started to read about him from both sides, the supporters and opposite.

I’ve got some interesting facts that would be beneficial to everyone looking for Imam Mahdi (ATFS) reappearance.

I’ll get back to you with more details whatever I have time.


Salams and duaa

Edited by Ahmad Ahmad, 26 November 2010 - 07:36 PM.


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Posted 26 November 2010 - 08:38 PM

Dear brothers and sisters,

Salam Alaikom,

Happy Eid al Ghadeer - Mubarak
May the bright light of the Eid al Ghadeer fill you and all the Followers of the Holy Ahlul Bayt (as) with the Light of Joy, Peace and Happiness.

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With a lot of signs that we see in the world, it seems very likely now is the time of Imam Mahdi (ATFS) reappearance that we all have been waiting for.

For a long time, I’ve been reading and searching for all the true signs of Imam Mahdi (ATFS), and couple of years ago, all of the sudden I heard about Ahmad al-Hassan and his issue.
I told myself this guy could be wrong or could be Right. So I gave the man a 50/50 chance.
I started to read about him from both sides, the supporters and opposite.

I’ve got some interesting facts that would be beneficial to everyone looking for Imam Mahdi (ATFS) reappearance.

I’ll get back to you with more details whatever I have time.


Salams and duaa



Salam ! :)
You're so polite!
Happy eid ghadeer to you too.

So as I understood ,one of the main signs of imam mahdi reapperance is '' Ahmad al Hassan ? '' ..and this guy is alive right now ?

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 12:48 AM

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Old news. This guy died in a battle near Najaf a three years ago.
http://www.abc.net.a...01/s1835843.htm

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#22 NAJMAT ALJADI

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 03:34 AM

al salam Alikum

I went through the website for Imam Ahmad Al Hasan Al Yamani http://the-savior.com it says The Savior has emerged.. the promised Paraclete from Jesus to the Christians, the messenger from Elijah to the Jews calls you to God.Messenger from imam Mahdi (as)..the Mahdi that is born during the end of time..Imam Ahmad AlHasan supported by thousands of visions & miracles

I feel it is interesting and need to study what he is claiming


I found this you tube about Imam Ahmad al hasan Al yamani ..



I understood from the narrations that Al -Yamani is one of the sings for ther Appearance of Imam Al Al Mahdy

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 03:58 AM

I found this you tube about Imam Ahmad al hasan Al yamani ..



I understood from the narrations that Al -Yamani is one of the sings for ther Appearance of Imam Al Al Mahdy




they are noobs, they curse our scholers our maraj3. They dont follow any marj3. I wouldnt waste my time on these false people. They are leading people to hell. Wallahi they are. If he was true our scholers would of said something about him.
They ignore these worthless false followers.
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Posted 27 November 2010 - 06:34 AM

salam alaykum

Ahmad al-hassan the dajjal of basrah. His real name is Ahmad ismael kati'e. He claims to be the first mahdi of the twelve mahdeyoon who will rule earth after imam mohamad ibn Al Hassan al mahdi ÚÌøá Çááøå ÝÑÌå ÇáÔÑíÝ. I had a debate with them on paltalk. They curse the usooli maraje3 and consider them bidah. To them, taqleed to someone who is not masoom or wasi is unlawful and haram. What a bunch of liars, . I did my research on them and found out that he has a family tree >>> My link

From the family tree, obviously fabricated , he is Ahmad ibn ismael ibn saleh ibn hussain ibn salman ibn Mohammad al mahdi ÚÌøá Çááøå ÝÑÌå ÇáÔÑíÝ.

This is their main website My link



In the name of Allah the Almighty one
Peace be upon those who follow true guidance

Why not use the style of polite
This is not an Islamic ethics
and this is an islamic forum
and may not allow you to speak in this way

this first
second
are you believe in the mahdyoon ?
from your talking you are believe in them
from where you are took This doctrine and since when
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i asked them if taqleed to a non masoom is unlawful then who was the hujjah or wasi before the appearence of ahmad kati3? they never answered me


[size="5"]you mean the maraje3 is the hojjah in time of disappearance of imam mahdi (makkan Allah lah fi alardh) ???
you have a guide for this ??

give it for us

to see it
do you know where the al taqleed started

did you hear in shaikh al mufeed was he marge3
altoosee .......................................wa wa wa ..................

if you can answer my questions


thank for Allah



#25 qaher alasnam

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Posted 27 November 2010 - 07:30 AM

Salaam Alaykum


This guy ahmad ismael kati3 known as ahmad alhassan (LA) is a dajjal and his followers are a bunch of lairs. He claims to be the first Mahdi after Imam Mahdi (as). He claims to be the son of Imam mahdi (as) and at the same time he claims to be the yamani. They believe in 24 imams, a12 mahdis after the 12 Imams (as). One who looks up their evidence will find they lie and change ahadith to prove thier beliefs.



In the name of Allah the Almighty one
Peace be upon those who follow true guidance
where are the changes of ahadith

I debated many times with them on paltalk they are bunch of lairs, they couldnt answer simple questions and when they get refuted they call lair and an enemy of ahlul albayt (as).
Unfortunetly, they have many followers these days in victoria in australia shais have split into two parties Qawati3(term given to their followers) and shias.


why you lying

now you can here write your questions and we will answered you

Ahlu albayt as have taught us ways to deal with false claimers, they simply exused us from being obliged from following anyone before the comming of the sufyani and the call from the heavens. Therefore, these sighns are ways to make us certain of the real mahdi and to expose the false claimers. As it has exposed this taxi driver ahmed kati3 (LA).

Wa Salaam


when ahlulbayt exuded you from following anyone before sufyany and sayha ???
can you take this exuded for me
if you mean the roaya of al sommary redhwan Allah 3aleh
al roaya talk about the seeing of imam not following
and there are book discuss this think you can read it on this rabit
http://www.almahdyoo...h/an/mmqrsn.zip





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