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#1 Meisam786110



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Posted 11 May 2010 - 05:44 AM

I want to know what is the punishment for masturbation in this world and in the hereafter.
Because, as we all know, alot of people do it ... It's a taboo topic I know .. But it has to be understood
whether it's haram or not ... And also is it equal to doing Zina ?
And what if someone can't help him/herself from doing it , is it his/her fault?
Coz I mean some people have a high sexual testosterone ...

Answers plz :)


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Posted 11 May 2010 - 06:01 AM


Some information about Masturbation from Ayatollah Sayyid Fadlullah

Q: Why is it impermissible for a man to practice the secret habit? 4/17/2006 1:21:38 PM A: The secret habit is impermissible for a man because it is considered masturbation that is prohibited. Abu Abdallah Imam Al-Hussein (a.s.) said that: "Three kinds of people, Allah does not talk to them: the one who pulls off his grey hair, the one who masturbates and the homosexual person. Publish Date: 8/17/2006 9:38:34 AM

Q: Is masturbation prohibited in our religion? 5/26/2006 11:22:50 AM A: Masturbation is prohibited, but, it applies only on men, whereas, according to the experts, the woman does not masturbate because she has no semen like the man and therefore, the act that she does and that arouses her instinct, is called a secret habit and it is not prohibited, but it is recommendable that she should not practice this secret habit due to its negative effects unless in necessary cases, in order to prevent herself from committing Haram (forbidden act). Publish Date: 9/27/2006 1:02:37 PM



MASTURBATION ...THE PERPETRATOR AND THE VICTIM In order that we do not digress from the topic, the main matter that needs explanation in the light of the Shariah and the Islamic instructions is masturbation. Masturbation is forbidden, since Islam wants that sexual matters to be satisfied through spousal relations only. This is different from the negative situations where sexual relations occur purely as, a physical joining of the bodies bereft of any supporting spiritual relations. This is in addition to the negative impact on the psychological aspect as well as life as a whole. Thus, masturbation is forbidden in every way, shape, or form including the sexual imagination that leads to orgasm. But although this act is prohibited, we must understand the normal, natural circumstances that push pubescent boys and girls to indulge in this bad habit. For the call of impulse and passion, and the resorting to this practice as a habit intended to satisfy these impulses, make masturbation one of the easiest habits to acquire, especially under social pressures which prevent any interaction between man and woman outside the limits of permanent marriage. Another influencing factor is the economic pressure preventing the youth from early marriage; or the aspect of traditions which prevents the girl from preparing for an early marriage , and similar factors placed by social restrictions.


Q: Your belief that woman has no spermatic fluid and consequently her masturbation induces no sperm has brought about great confusion among the public. Could you please explain the details of this ruling together with the consequent ambiguities? And what are the principles and traditions on which your Eminence based your opinion? A: What should be made clear is that if woman had a spermatic fluid similar to man's, which runs upon orgasm, then the woman must wash as man does in a similar situation, also, woman's masturbation would be prohibited on the basis of the legal foundation. Where as, if woman has no spermatic fluid, then wash is not a must as unanimously approved by jurists and then woman's masturbation will be permissible because prohibition is restricted to sperm running, so in the absence of spermatic fluid, masturbation is not an issue that is prohibited or allowed. This is exactly similar to the case when a man plays with his penis without consequent sperm-also unanimously approved by jurists-and wash is not a must, because prohibition is not based on lust inducement but on the misplacement of spermatic fluid (as reported in some narrations). But even if this assumption (woman has no sperm) proved true, we advise women not to get into this bad habit (masturbation), because its practice leads to negative consequences upon marriage and causes psychological, neural and medical complications that threaten her normal life, social status and future marriage. In this respect, some jurists in their comment on my allowance of woman's masturbation regardless of sperm run, refer to two narrations, the first of which is narrated by Oubeida Ben Zarara, who said: Once, an old neighbor of us had a pretty and expensive bondwoman. That old man couldn't have full sexual intercourse with his bondwoman, who would ask him to put his hand on her labia because that gave her greater pleasure, but he detested that. So, the old man demanded that Zarara ask Imam Jaafar Sadiq (a.s.) about the matter. So, Zarara asked the Imam, who said, "There is no harm in using any of his body parts to give her pleasure, but he is not allowed to use anything other than his body". The second narration is given by the same narrator, Zarara, and it says: I asked Imam Sadiq (a.s) about men who have many bondwomen, but they can't have full sexual intercourse with them, so they give them pleasure by other means". Then the Imam replied, "There is no harm in using any of his body organs." But the two mentioned narrations are clearly prohibiting the use of any outside means to satisfy the wife's sexual desire, though they permit the use of the male's other organs including the hand to satisfy the wife, but there is no mention of whether she can use her own hand or not. Q: Since this fatwa doesn't represent a practical necessity, but it leads to corruption and moral dissolution when adopted by women who might be entrapped by moral disadvantages, some ask why aren't precautional fatwas issued in this respect? And why is this fatwa aroused in general? A: Those who say so haven't experienced the critical problems undergone by women when they are encountered by urgent situations, which drive them to inquire about the legal ruling that might put an end to these problems. We have experienced the depth of these problems through studying the various situations and through receiving questions that seek rulings in cases as when a woman's husband is imprisoned and she is not sure whether he is dead or alive, or when a husband spends a long time in prison in the absence of any legal circumstances that lead to divorce, or when a husband is in a state of absence, where the wife should legally wait for four years to be then divorced by the judge if the husband's guardian doesn't sustain her, or when a husband remains abroad for a long time where reunion is impossible due to financial reasons. All these cases turn to be serious sexual problems, which drive the jurist to seriously think of finding solutions. It's natural that women's masturbation sometimes leads to negative consequences, but prohibition or negligence on the part of the jurist also have more negative impacts on the life of woman, especially the married one who has no legal opportunity to solve sexual problems. In short, the mentioned details pressed me to study the subject in a legally responsible way. Q: Can't we consider the above-mentioned damage a main cause to prohibiting this habit? A: I don't think this habit leads to the damage that necessitates prohibition; Moreover, there is a consensus among jurists that prohibition, is limited to spermatic fluid running. So, if a man plays with his penis not intending to induce sperm and if he could hold himself back before orgasm leads to ejaculation, then he is not a sinner; consequently, he must not wash, and he must not break his fast if he is fasting. This is agreed upon by all jurists because masturbation (as understood by all jurists) means the coming out of sperm. Q: So, why hasn't Islam permitted lesbianism, which is far from sperm production? A: Because Islam has prohibited all forms of unnatural sexual relations between man and woman because such relations are not based on a legal contract. So, sexual relations among people of the same sex are rejected in Islam, which wants men and women to naturally practice their sexual relation through their physical potential characteristic because the natural state of Allah's creation is not represented through homosexuality or lesbianism. Also, Allah didn't create man's body, , to practice such unnatural relations; perhaps because of the consequent damage of leaving natural relationships. Q: Must a woman wash if she had wet dream? A: I have already said that woman has no spermatic fluid, but if this supposition were true, then woman's wet dream would be the same as man's; that is, if she dreams of having sex with a man without a consequent fluid, after examining her clothes, she doesn't have to wash, but if there is -in accordance, with the supposition - she has to wash. However, it is well known that woman doesn't have that liquid which comes out from man upon sexual intercourse. Thus, we believe that wash is not a must for women who have sexual dreams.


Edited by AlMuttaqi, 11 May 2010 - 06:03 AM.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 08:26 AM

Another major error from Fadhlullah. Sistani says its not allowed for females also becoz its marriage with hands. Logical point.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 09:01 AM


But it has to be understood whether it's haram or not ... And also is it equal to doing Zina ?
And what if someone can't help him/herself from doing it , is it his/her fault?

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ أَحْمَدَ عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ عَمْرِو بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنْ مُصَدِّقِ بْنِ صَدَقَةَ عَنْ عَمَّارِ بْنِ مُوسَى عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع فِي الرَّجُلِ يَنْكِحُ بَهِيمَةً أَوْ يَدْلُكُ فَقَالَ كُلُّ مَا أَنْزَلَ بِهِ الرَّجُلُ مَاءَهُ فِي هَذَا وَ شِبْهِهِ فَهُوَ زِنًى

Translation: 'Ammaar bin Moosa asked our 6th Imaam (as) about if a man committing sexual intercourse with a beast (baheemah) or masturbation. He (as) said, "Any forms of these kinds where a man pours forth his water (semen) is considered like zinaa.
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Edited by Nader Zaveri, 12 May 2010 - 09:02 AM.

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Posted 12 May 2010 - 10:49 AM


whether it's haram or not

Yes, we have many hadiths specifically prohibiting it and all of the maraja view it as haram, even the most liberal ones like FadhlAllah and Saanei.

And what if someone can't help him/herself from doing it , is it his/her fault?

As with all addictions, the best thing to do is to never start.

But if a person is already stuck, then they have to stop, either by cutting down 'til the point where they stop completely, or by going cold turkey.

And if it is very hard for them to stop, they should seriously consider marriage, either permanent marriage or temporary.

Without-a-doubt, it is a serious problem for the Muslim youth here and unfortunately the Sheikhs and parents of our communities simply aren't doing their jobs in this respect. Marriage in Islam is very easy but people make it very complicated.

For those who are struggling with this issue, i sincerely advise them to take steps to control themselves, but if they are really finding it impossible, they should discuss the issue with their parents.
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was salam

Edited by lotfilms, 12 May 2010 - 11:14 AM.

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