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(salam)

I recently read the following article, and I am wondering could someone please provide authentic fiqhi hadith to support these claims.

https://www.al-islam.org/shiite-encyclopedia-ahlul-bayt-dilp-team/prayer-salat-according-five-islamic-schools-law-part-1#wajib-covering-during-salat

I am wondering where is considered awrah according to shia fiqh?

I know that in sunni fiqh the area from the navel until the bottom of the knees needs to be covered.

However, in the article above that does not seem to be the case for shias.

So, I'd like to see a few fiqhi authentic hadiths on this topic.

Thank you

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Salaam Sister

I think it is less to do with hadiths but more to do with Intepretation of Quranic verses but I think what must be done is precaution so if you are not sure then you must cover from navel to knee in front of all else except your wife. I am yet to come across a Fiqhi hadith which states the awrah of a man so I think it might be a ruling based on ijtihad.

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(salam)

http://rafed.net/books/hadith/wasael-2/was2002.html#20

ÈÇÈ ÍÏ ÇáÚæÑÉ ÇáÊí íÌÈ ÓÊÑåÇ --The Chapter on the Limit of the Awrah and That Which is Obligatory to Cover

These hadiths say that the thigh is not part of the awrah. For the man, the awrah consists of the two private parts, the front and the back, alone.

This is the absolute minimum for a man. For a woman I believe most say the entire body is awrah with the exception of the hands, feet, and face. Clearly if you have the clothes by which to cover more, then that is better. It is narrated that Imam Ali Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã bought three pieces of clothing: An izaar (a piece of material you wrap around your waist or navel) which he wore to his knees, a qamees (thobe or long shirt) to the top of his ankles, and wore a ridaa' (a shortened cloak).

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http://www.rafed.net/books/hadith/wasael-5/w2.html

However, many early Muslims couldn't afford this and just wore an izaar. However, this is the awrah.

(salam)

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(salam)

...

These hadiths say that the thigh is not part of the awrah. For the man, the awrah consists of the two private parts, the front and the back, alone.

This is the absolute minimum for a man. For a woman I believe most say the entire body is awrah with the exception of the hands, feet, and face. Clearly if you have the clothes by which to cover more, then that is better. It is narrated that Imam Ali Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã bought three pieces of clothing: An izaar (a piece of material you wrap around your waist or navel) which he wore to his knees, a qamees (thobe or long shirt) to the top of his ankles, and wore a ridaa' (a shortened cloak).

...

However, many early Muslims couldn't afford this and just wore an izaar. However, this is the awrah.

(salam)

(salam) brother...

I'm a bit confused.

You initially mentioned the thigh isn't part of the awrah, but then you mentioned izaar covers the thigh and it is part of the awrah.

Could you please clarify this?

How about the area between the navel until the front private parts?

What must be covered?

Thank you

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I was just saying that when you wear an izaar, it is recommended that the bottom of it stop between the knee and half the leg. It shouldn't go lower than that. That's what the hadith of Imam Ali عليه السلام says. Just trying to show what he wore, and the fact that although this is the awrah, the sahaba would usually wear izaars that would start above their navel, and go down to their knees. It would be tied at the navel, and they wouldn't be allowed to lower it to the ground, because this is blameworthy. So, the Muslim men, to distinguish themselves from women and other reasons, would raise their garments to the knee or a little lower. That's all I was saying. It's not talking about the awrah. It was just an aside. You absolutely must cover your front and backside and that's it.

Wa assalaamu aleykum

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I was just saying that when you wear an izaar, it is recommended that the bottom of it stop between the knee and half the leg. It shouldn't go lower than that. That's what the hadith of Imam Ali Úáíå ÇáÓáÇã says. Just trying to show what he wore, and the fact that although this is the awrah, the sahaba would usually wear izaars that would start above their navel, and go down to their knees. It would be tied at the navel, and they wouldn't be allowed to lower it to the ground, because this is blameworthy. So, the Muslim men, to distinguish themselves from women and other reasons, would raise their garments to the knee or a little lower. That's all I was saying. It's not talking about the awrah. It was just an aside. You absolutely must cover your front and backside and that's it.

Wa assalaamu aleykum

Excellent.

Thank You Brother.

So, short shorts are permitted, technically? :D

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According to a hadith of Imam jafar sadiq  (AS) and as clearly written in the Quran, the hands and face of a woman can be revealed while the rest is awrah. For a man it is to cover himself from the navel to the knee but the rest must also be covered. The ankles should be covered which Sunnis don't believe as Abu Bakr didn't cover his ankles 

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