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#1 shukarAllah

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 09:55 AM

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Kaisy hain ap sab, umeed hain achay, khush, fit aur set hon gay.
Ijazat ho to kuch hum araz karain :)

School aur phir college ke dinoon main Urdu main humari dilchaspi, lagan, aur maharat (grip) ka e'teraaf aur hosla afzaai aksar humary very kind teachers bhi kiya kartay thay........(isay apny munh se apni tareef na samjhiye ga)

Khair, is thread ka maqsaad bus ap logoon kay ilam main izaafa karna aur apki Urdu ka emtehaan lena he hay.

To araz hay kay Urdu main aksar alfaaz kay hum wazan aur aksar auqaat hum awaaz matzaad mil jatay hain.

Misaal ke tour per....
Mohid ==> Mulhid (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 4 hay)
Momin ==> Mushrik (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 4 hay)
Iqrar ==> Inkar (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 5 hay)

aisi aur bhi misaalain hoon gi :)

Mera Urdu Lovers se sawal yeh hay kay woh in alfaaz kay matzaad bata dain (agar maloom ho to):

1. Aksar (ǘËÑ)
2. Phool (ªæá)

Sharat wohi choti se hum wazan aur hum awaaz alfaaz ki hay.
Phool ka ulat aksar Kanta to suna gaya hay, apka kiya khayal hay ?

Aur aakhir main aik guzarish hay kay agar apko bhi meri tarah kisi Urdu lafaz kay mitzaad ya mitradaf ki talash ho to is thread main pochiye, InshaAllah yahan per he jawab milay ga. Shukarya.

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#2 MOHIB E AHLAYBAIT

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:03 AM

2. Phool (ªæá)



Phool = Sukar :D :D :D :D

#3 shukarAllah

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:16 AM

Phool = Sukar :D :D :D :D


(salam)
:P :D :!!!:

Apki masoom ada pe buhat piyar aaya !
Can u explain how Sukar is opposite of Phool ????????

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 04:10 PM

(salam)
:P :D :!!!:

Apki masoom ada pe buhat piyar aaya !
Can u explain how Sukar is opposite of Phool ????????


Opposite nahi hai issi liyay to itnay saray smiley post kiyay thay...

#5 Basim Ali

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 06:08 PM

Phool ka probably kaanta hai
aur aksar ka...... 'bayshtar'?

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Posted 03 June 2009 - 10:26 PM

it is mutazaad and mutaraadiff. Meem per pesh hai.

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 07:25 AM

it is mutazaad and mutaraadiff. Meem per pesh hai.

HAHA! Sahih pakra, shukarallah ko!

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Posted 04 June 2009 - 11:54 PM

it is mutazaad and mutaraadiff. Meem per pesh hai.


(salam)

Tashih ka shukarya, ap jaisy buzurg se mujhy yahi umeed thi, waqai main talfuz kay bary main pur yaqeen nahi tha, magar koi urdu dictionary mojood na hony ki waja se sahih talfuz paish nahi kar saka......

Buhat buhat shukarya.

Duaon main yaad rakhiye ga.

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#9 shukarAllah

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 12:03 AM

Phool ka probably kaanta hai
aur aksar ka...... 'bayshtar'?


(salam)

Mery mohtaram bhai, apky contribution ka buhat shukarya....
Magar adab kay sath araz karon ga kay mera naqas khayal bhi yahi hay kay phool ka hum wazan aur hum awaz mutzaad dhool he hay, just khud is liya nahi likha tha kay main chahta tha kay koi aur bhi likhay, so that main jab baat karon to kisi ki humayat bhi hasil ho. Thanks to Batool Aapi :)

Aur dosri baat askar wali........ to mery mohtaram, aksar ka matlab mery naqas ilam ki hadd tak "most of times" hay, aur yeh "kasar" ya "kasrat" se nikla huwa hay.... is nuqta-e-nazar se iska mutzaad "bayshtar" munasib maloom nahi hota, bayshtar ka matlab bhi almost "zayada tar" ya "most of times" jaisa he nikalta hay. Umeed hay ap meri haqeer si raaye per ghoor farmayen gay.

MOHIB E AHLAYBAIT ko mera buhat piyaar puhanchay, umar aur membership se qata nazar, unhoo ne buhat piyara contribution daala hay :P

Duaon main yaad rakhiye ga.


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#10 Basim Ali

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Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:19 AM

(salam)

Mery mohtaram bhai, apky contribution ka buhat shukarya....
Magar adab kay sath araz karon ga kay mera naqas khayal bhi yahi hay kay phool ka hum wazan aur hum awaz mutzaad dhool he hay, just khud is liya nahi likha tha kay main chahta tha kay koi aur bhi likhay, so that main jab baat karon to kisi ki humayat bhi hasil ho. Thanks to Batool Aapi :)

Aur dosri baat askar wali........ to mery mohtaram, aksar ka matlab mery naqas ilam ki hadd tak "most of times" hay, aur yeh "kasar" ya "kasrat" se nikla huwa hay.... is nuqta-e-nazar se iska mutzaad "bayshtar" munasib maloom nahi hota, bayshtar ka matlab bhi almost "zayada tar" ya "most of times" jaisa he nikalta hay. Umeed hay ap meri haqeer si raaye per ghoor farmayen gay.

MOHIB E AHLAYBAIT ko mera buhat piyaar puhanchay, umar aur membership se qata nazar, unhoo ne buhat piyara contribution daala hay :P

Duaon main yaad rakhiye ga.


(wasalam)



Gustaakhi maaf ho......
Laikin maray khayal say aapkay toipc ka naam alfaaz mutazaad aur mutardif hai? Hain kay nahi?
To maray baishtar likhna ka matlab, aksar ka mutaradif likhna tha
Dhool-Phool?? Mujhay jahan tak yaad hai, school may Phool(flower) ka mutazaad Kaanta(thorn) sikhaya tha.....
Shayad waqt kay saath badal gaya ho..........!! :D :D
(wasalam) and take care,

#11 shukarAllah

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 12:24 PM

Gustaakhi maaf ho......
Laikin maray khayal say aapkay toipc ka naam alfaaz mutazaad aur mutardif hai? Hain kay nahi?
To maray baishtar likhna ka matlab, aksar ka mutaradif likhna tha
Dhool-Phool?? Mujhay jahan tak yaad hai, school may Phool(flower) ka mutazaad Kaanta(thorn) sikhaya tha.....
Shayad waqt kay saath badal gaya ho..........!! :D :D
(wasalam) and take care,


(salam)

Gustaakhi.... aur ap jaisy mohtaram bhai kay mounh se !
Sharam se boola nahi ja raha..... SC kay buzurgoon kay baad ab aap, Batool aapi, Marbles bhai jaisy loog he mery liye rehnuma hain..... !

Khair apki baat se aik cheez to humain samajh aa gai hay, jo keh pehly likhni chahiye thi, woh yeh keh is topic main mera maqsad basically yahi tha keh jin alfaaz kay mutzaad darkar hon, unky mutzaad mil jayen aur jin kay mutradaf chahiye unky mutradaf.....

Ap 100% sahih hain keh Aksar ka mutradaf bayshtar hay.... I m agree with u.
Wese main ne manga to mutzaad he tha.... :) ap ne mutradaf ko bhi pakar ker line main lagwa diya :P :lol:

Dhool-Phool???
Waqai hay to kuch ghair qanooni sa..... :D
Mugar u know..... humain school se bhaagay kitnay saal ho gaye :lol: :lol: :shaytan: :lol: :shaytan: :shaytan:
Ab to ap un cheezon ki yaad na dilayen hazoor.............. Warna hum hansain ya royen..... samajh nahi aata :D :D :D
Bus thora sa romantic banda thehra.... warna yeh hum wazan aur hum awaaz ki behas he kyun cheerta !
So janab Phool-Kaanta grammatically sahih hay, romantically sahih nahin :)

Khush rahiye aur duaon main is na-cheez ko bhi yaad rakhiye ga.

(wasalam)

#12 shukarAllah

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Posted 06 June 2009 - 12:29 PM

Opposite nahi hai issi liyay to itnay saray smiley post kiyay thay...


(salam)

Mery piyaray bhai, ap chup ho gaye..... koi narazgi he ya hum se khata hogai ?????
Apki masoom batoon se dil laga rehta hay......

Hanstay muskuraatay rahiye aur apny bhai ko bhi duaon main yaad rakhiye ga.

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#13 Basim Ali

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Posted 07 June 2009 - 06:29 AM

Shukarallah............. main aur aaapka rehnuma????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

Kaafi acha mazak kar laitay hain aap.........


Zara mera page khol kar meri ummar to daikhiyay.......
Pata lag jayey ga kon kiska rehnuma hai.......
:P :P :P

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Posted 08 June 2009 - 02:27 PM

Shukarallah............. main aur aaapka rehnuma????? :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

Kaafi acha mazak kar laitay hain aap.........


Zara mera page khol kar meri ummar to daikhiyay.......
Pata lag jayey ga kon kiska rehnuma hai.......
:P :P :P


(salam)

Mery mohtaram bhai, apky kehny per main ne apki profile bhi dekh li, magar mazaak to main pehly bhi nhi kar raha tha, ab bhi nahi........ :)

Baat banday ki umar ki nahi hoti, ilam aur zaraf ki hoti hay, SC per Urdu forum main he kiya, sary forums main apki posts, apki baatain, apki zehni aur fikri balooghiyet aur kiya kiya daraj karoon...Bus MashaAllah aur Subhaan Allah nikalta hey zubaan se !
Allah kray apka zoor-e-qalam aur zyada ho.Ameen

Ap kam az kam mujh se to har tarah aagay hain, aik umar main nhi to kiya huwa.... :D

Wese apki profile main apki age likhi dekh kar pehla lafaz zubaan se jo nikla... woh "Jhoot bilkul Jhoot" tha, gustaakhi ki muaafi chahta hon, magar zara bhi yaqeen krny ko dil nhi chahta kay ap 13,14 kay ho sakty hain.

Allah Pak ap per apni rehmat frmaye. Duaaon main yaad rakhiye ga. Shukarya.

(wasalam)

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:07 AM

it is mutazaad and mutaraadiff. Meem per pesh hai.


Bro yeh banda urdu ka dada abbu hay :D

Urdu Nasr ka baadshah hay, is ki haath likhi tehreerain banda parhay tau deemagh thikaanay aajata hay.....

Mujhe nahen lagta keh jawaan nay Mitzaad aur Mitradaf kehnay main ghalti ki ho......Multan kay Nishtar haspataal ka naam tau suna ho ga (Jis ki actual pronunciation Nashtar honi chaahiye).....mujhe lagta hay, waisa hi koi chakar hay werna ShukarAllah jaisa banda aur Urdu pronunciation main ghaltiyan karay .............. Main nahen maanta....agar is nay waaki main ghalti ki hay tau jurmaana lagna chaahiye.... :D

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:04 PM

Bro yeh banda urdu ka dada abbu hay :D

Urdu Nasr ka baadshah hay, is ki haath likhi tehreerain banda parhay tau deemagh thikaanay aajata hay.....

Mujhe nahen lagta keh jawaan nay Mitzaad aur Mitradaf kehnay main ghalti ki ho......Multan kay Nishtar haspataal ka naam tau suna ho ga (Jis ki actual pronunciation Nashtar honi chaahiye).....mujhe lagta hay, waisa hi koi chakar hay werna ShukarAllah jaisa banda aur Urdu pronunciation main ghaltiyan karay .............. Main nahen maanta....agar is nay waaki main ghalti ki hay tau jurmaana lagna chaahiye.... :D


(salam)
Bro InshaAllah,
apky alfaaz qaabil-sad-ehteraam hain,aur apny aap ko dekhta hon to lagta hay kay gadhay nay shair ki khaal pehan'nay ki koshish ki hay!
Anyway, main aik baar phir tasleem karta hon keh yeh thread post karty waqat main pur yaqeen beherhaal nhi tha kay alfaaz ka talfuz sahih hay ya nhi, main ne bhi ap aur Marbles Bhai jaisy buzrugoon pe bharoosa kiya tha kay ghalti huwi to islaah ho jaye gi.
Baqi jurmaana............ :):) :D :D :P :P :lol:
Banda dil-o-jaan se haazir hay, kahain to Daar-ul-Kabaab pe kadhaai ho jaye, magar Marbles Bhai ka bhi hissa banta hay, unho ne bhi meri thread per nazar-e-karam ki hay na,so pehly ap dono buzurg koi tasfiya kar lain (ya dono lartay reh jayen, humari kadhaai bach jaye :shaytan: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P)
Wese dili khushi huwi hay kay ap phir time nikaal rahy hain,aur SC Urdu forum apki tehreeron se mustafeed ho raha hay !
Aik choti se derkhwasat...... Buhat din se apki koi ghazal nhi suni, kuch irshaad ho jaye sarkaar!
Allah kray zoor-e-qalam aur zayada ho.Ameen
Apna buhat khayal rakhiye ga aur khaksaar ko duaoon main yaad rakhiye ga.Shukarya
Allah Hafiz

(wasalam)

#17 shukarAllah

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Posted 09 June 2009 - 02:47 PM

(salam)
Khud apni post per tanqeed karny aur khamyan nikalny ko ap kiya kahain ge?
Jo kuch bhi kahain, magar humain jo apni ghaltiyan nazar aayen, unhain underline+bold kar rahy hain, (brackets main sahi alfaaz bhi daraj hain) so that humain khud apni aouqaat yaad aa jaye :)

Kaisy hain ap sab, umeed hain(hay) achay, khush, fit aur set hon gay.
Ijazat ho to kuch hum araz karain :)

School aur phir college ke dinoon main Urdu main humari dilchaspi, lagan, aur maharat (grip) ka e'teraaf aur hosla afzaai aksar humary very kind teachers bhi kiya kartay thay........(isay apny munh se apni tareef na samjhiye ga)

Khair, is thread ka maqsaad bus ap logoon kay ilam main izaafa karna aur apki Urdu ka emtehaan lena he hay.

To araz hay kay Urdu main aksar alfaaz kay hum wazan aur aksar auqaat hum awaaz matzaad("mitzaad" khud mera talfuz hay, in thread's heading, Marbles Bhai ka talfuz "mutazaad" hay) mil jatay hain.

Misaal ke tour per....
Mohid ==> Mulhid (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 4 hay)
Momin ==> Mushrik (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 4 hay)
Iqrar ==> Inkar (Urdu main dono k haroof ki ta'adad 5 hay)

aisi aur bhi misaalain hoon gi :)

Mera Urdu Lovers se sawal yeh hay kay woh in alfaaz kay matzaad bata dain (agar maloom ho to):

1. Aksar ǘËÑ
2. Phool ªæá

Sharat wohi choti se hum wazan aur hum awaaz alfaaz ki hay.
Phool ka ulat aksar Kanta to suna gaya hay, apka kiya khayal hay ?

Aur aakhir main aik guzarish hay kay agar apko bhi meri tarah kisi Urdu lafaz kay mitzaad ya mitradaf ki talash ho to is thread main pochiye, InshaAllah yahan per he jawab milay ga. Shukarya.


Aur aik baar phir gustakhi karny ki jasaarat kar rahy hain, araz ye hay kay abhi tak kisi ne bhi Aksar ka mitzaad batany ki zehmat gawara nhi ki :P
Kiya hum khud he....... ???

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Posted 13 June 2009 - 01:36 PM

As-Slam-o-Alaikum,
Hum phir hazir hain, SC Urdu Lovers ko sharam karni chahiye.........
Ab tak kisi ne bhi humary 'Aksar' ka mutzaad batanay ki himmat nhi ki.... Ab ap kahain ge keh...
khai kuch bhi kahain, humain kiya, hum to apny lafaz ka jawab chahtay hain...... ya phir hum khud he baal ki khaal nikalain ..... ?

Aur haan, Marbles Bhai ki khidmat main, behad adab kay sath apni ghalti ka e'teraaf karta hon.
Ref kay liye links de raha hon:
http://hamariweb.com...y.aspx?ue=ãÊÖÇÏ
http://hamariweb.com....aspx?ue=ãÊÑÇÏÝ

Yahan se ap in lafzoon ka sahih talfuz dekh sktay hain. Aur is se Marbles Bhai ki baat ki tasdeeq hoti hay. Ba-khuda humari itni to jasaarat nhi ho sakti keh hum Marbles Bhai ya kisi bhi SC senior member ki ghaltiyaan nikalain ya unko ghalat sabit krny ka soch skain, haan magar khud apni islaah kay nuqta-e-nazar se munasib samjha keh in lafzoon ka sahih talfuz talash kar liya jaye. Bro inshaAllah se bhi buhat sharminda hain keh unky maan ka bharam na rakh skay.

Ishaq ne Ghalib nikma kar diya
Warna hum bhi aadmi thay kaam kay !

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Posted 18 July 2013 - 07:42 AM

aoa. janab mujhay in alfazoon kay muatadif bata dein

1- IQRAR 

2-JWAHRAT

3-QALAB

4-SOORAJ

5-BHALAI

6-PAK

7-JANNAT

8-WAJIB

9SAMAR

10-FALAK



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Posted 18 July 2013 - 07:44 AM

JAWAB BHAUT URGENTLY REQUIRED HAIN, AGAR POSSIBLE HO TO MAIL KAR DEIN SAFALH@OVI.COM

 

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Posted 19 July 2013 - 12:57 PM

Kuch Mutradif likh rha hun:

 

1- Tasdeeq

2- Heery , Moti

3- Dil

4- Shams

5- Behbudi, Behtri

6- Tahir

7- Firdus

8- Lazim

9- Phal, Sila

10- Assman


Edited by skamran110, 19 July 2013 - 12:57 PM.




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