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B) (salam) lama tak on line. Rasa kekok. Nak chat pun rasa semacam.

Kalau tak jumpa laman tertentu cuba guna enjin carian (SE) taiplah kalau yang ini almawaddah.

SE akan senaraikan semuanya. Kemudian tengok yang paling hampir. B)

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(salam)

Just wondering, if there's any Malay especially reverted Shii in here.

I just want to discuss things...

Thanks.

Regards.

Ya Ali a.s...Ya Hussain a.s...,

I am a Malaysian Chinese converted muslim shia...my husband is a Syed Naqvi from Pakistan. Alhamdulillah I am strong believer of the Ahlul Bayt.

Ahlul Bayt (Ahl al-Bayt) or household members of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) refers to his daughter Fatima Zahra (pbuh), his successor and son-in-law, Imam Ali (pbuh), their two sons Imam Hasan (pbuh) and Imam Hussain (pbuh), and the nine Imams from the lineage of Imam Hussain (pbuh).

Ahlul Bayt (Ahl-e-Bait) in Noble Qur'an

The Purified Ones: The Highest degree of purity means to be kept constantly away from all the causes of impurity. This is termed as the state of infallibility in knowledge, character and action. It could have been applied generally to the whole mankind who are keeping aloof from all the impurities as the word of Allah (SWT) commands; but, Allah (SWT) expressively has confined His order to certain group of individuals by excluding the rest of the mankind from it in His divine will by declaring Ahlul Bayt (Ahl al-Bayt) as the persons purified by Him to be constantly in touch with the Noble Qur'an in its original, hidden, well protected, exalted and purified form. It was Allah's (SWT) wish to remove all blemishes from them, as mentioned in the Verse of Purity (Ayat Al-Tathir) in the Noble Qur'an:

The Verse of Purity (Ayat Al-Tathir): "... Allah only desires to keep away the uncleanness from you, O people of the House! And to purify you a (thorough) purifying." Noble Qur'an (33:33)

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i am looking for a friends muslim shia from malaysia do you know web site or groupe for malaysian chia?

i have been in malaysia and i loved this country i hope to keep touch with this great country and i hope to make my future familly from malaysia i am asking Allah to help me to relealise that if someone now something or someone about chia in malaysia please for the love of Allah and ahl al beyt let me know:o

saya rindu malaysia:(

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Assalamualaikum semua...

Ya Allah, lama sangat tak login.

Terima kasih kepada semua yang reply thread ni....

Tak sangka ramai juga Melayu di sini ya. Apa2pun selamat berpuasa semua.

Insha Allah bila tamat Ramadhan saya akan kembali aktif di sini.

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(salam)

Salamat Hari Raya. Maaf Zahir Batin.

i am looking for a friends muslim shia from malaysia do you know web site or groupe for malaysian chia?

i have been in malaysia and i loved this country i hope to keep touch with this great country and i hope to make my future familly from malaysia i am asking Allah to help me to relealise that if someone now something or someone about chia in malaysia please for the love of Allah and ahl al beyt let me know:o

saya rindu malaysia:(

There is a yahoo group call Malaysia Shia. You may need to subscribe to that group. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/malaysia_shia/

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(salam) semua,

macam mana ye saya nak ceritakn semua ni... benda ni saya dh lama simpan. taktau nak luah kat sapa.

begini, saya bukan syiah, saya sunni.

saya kenal syiah pun secara tak sengaja, tak berniat pun.

saya penah kawan dgn sorang lelaki syiah dulu. drpd dialah saya mula kenali syiah padahal dulu saya saya ignorant, dan saya tak tau apa2 pasal syiah.

masa saya mula2 kenal dia dan bila saya tau dia syiah, saya cuba elakkan diri, tapi ntah camne, tarikan tu kuat sgt dan saya cuba juga berkwn dia. dia yg banyak ajar saya pasal syiah, bg buku dan sebagainya. dia satu2nya kawan syiah yg saya ada.

masa saya kawan dgn dia, saya tak pernah bgtau parents saya yg dia syiah. saya penah saje2 tanya mak saya apa pendapat dia pasal syiah. mak saya kata jgn memandai2 nak belajar ttg syiah etc, sbb syiah pentingkan Ali lebih drpd Nabi. so, lepas tu saya dah ckp kat mak saya lg pasal ni sebab saya tau mak akan bantah habis2an. jadi saya kekal kwn dgn laki ni... mak saya tau saya kwn dgn dia tapi cuma taktau yg dia syiah.

laki ni pulak, dia bgtau family dia yg saya sunni... mak dia mmg bantah habis sebab kalau boleh dia nak menantu syiah juga. kami bertahan juga la berkwn... tapi sebab takde restu sebelah parents dia, akhirnya kami akur untuk berpisah last2. saya mmg sedih sgt masa tu. laki ni pun dia taknak belakangkan mak dia, apatah lagi syiah tu sendiri, saya pulak masih merangkak2 nak belajar ttg syiah. akhirnya dia kawin dgn perempuan syiah lain. masa tu hati tak dpt nak ckp la mmg sedih, sakit hati dan menangis berhari2.

masa saya mula2 masuk shiachat ni saya masih belajar lagi pasal syiah... pertengahan tahun 2008 kami berpisah, 9 mths after that dia kawin. masa tu saya jadi tak tentu arah. kwn2 saya tak tau yg laki ni syiah, diorg lagilah tak tau yg saya tgh belajar senyap2 ttg syiah.. saya takde kwn nak luahkan perasaan masa tu.

sampai sekarang saya masih belajar ttg syiah. apa2 benda yg laki tu pernah ajar saya masih saya amalkan lagi, tapi macam saya kata saya takde kwn syiah yg boleh jd tempat rujukan.

sekarang saya dah tak boleh patah balik menjadi sunni. ada sorang laki tgh mendekati sy sekarang tapi saya takut nak bagitau pd dia yg saya dlm proses nak menjadi syiah. kadang2 saya benci dgn keadaan saya sekarang... sbb saya dlm proses menjadi syiah, saya takut saya tak dpt jodoh sebab org tak tau keadaan saya. kdg2 saya menyesal dipertemukan dgn laki syiah tu sebab dia yg buat saya belajar jd syiah tapi dia tinggalkan saya separuh jln dan terkontang kanting sorang diri.

saya minta nasihat pada semua di sini, this is my last resort sebab saya takde cara lain nak reach out. saya mmg takde kawan syiah langsung.

saya harap dapat panduan semua di sini. thanks.

(salam)

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(salam)

Sunflower9,

Your story is really sad. I am also sad that you have no one else to ask. Trust me, I know where you are coming from and I understand perfectly when you said we are your last hope and resort.

First of all, you have to stop feeling sad about your lost. You cannot think about how he rejected you. Think fondly of his help in teaching you about the ahlul bayt and learning about the faith.

There is no perfect solution to your present dilemma. The Shia faith is not something that is readily accepted or even tolerated in Malaysia. Trust me, I have spent many years over there. The minute you confess being a Shia, you are already an apostate and a kafir. Generally, Malaysians are very tolerant of other faiths but not to Muslims who have apostate/disown their Islamic belief. And being a Shia means you are an apostate from the Sunni community. That is how the majority of the people view us.

I urged you NOT to return to your Sunni faith. You already know what is right and what is wrong. You cannot abandon the ahlul bayt now that you know how important there are. They preserve the pure Islam and they gave up their life and the lives of their companions so we can practice our faith. The only way we can thank them is by holding to their teaching, firmly.

Being a Shia in Malaysia, mean you will need to keep your faith secret from everybody else. I had it easier than you because I am not a convert but from a Shia family –all the way up. So I didn’t need to be apologetic about being a Shia. You don’t have that option so you will need to explain yourself frequently.

What are the chances of a Shia and finding a Shia partner? I would say zero chances. You’ll not find anyone suitable (Shia) to marry in Malaysia. There are just not enough Shia convert. If you wish to marry you may need to look within the local community.

Since you have someone who is showing an interest, it is a good idea to pursue the opportunity. I believe it is better to tell someone about your faith upfront. If he rejected you then you are not going to be sad because you guys don’t know each other that well.

Hiding these types of information is bad because in future all you will be doing is thinking about your confession. You cannot keep that kind of secret especially not from someone you are going to marry.

The obvious drawback of telling him is that he is going to share this information with someone else (because obviously he is going to be bothered about your faith). I am not sure it is safe at this stage to share that information.

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(wasalam)

(salam)

Sis Zareen, thank you very2 much for replying my thread!I appreciate it very2 much.

I hope it is OK if I repy back in BM?

ya, mmg saya tak akan patah balik pun, kalau pun saya tak jadi syiah, saya tak mungkin akan ambil sunni sepenuhnya. sekarang pun, byk benda yg dia pernah ajar/bagitau saya yg saya masih ikut, macam lewatkan berbuka, tak makan seafood, selawat tanpa wasahbihi ajmain dll.

The thing is, sebab takde cikgu secara langsung, saya rasa sukar nak belajar ttg syiah secara langsung. kadang2 saya hairan dgn diri sendiri, kenapa saya nak kekal dalam syiah padahal orang yg bawa saya mengenali syiah tinggalkan saya separuh jalan? apakah saya ikhlas dengan syiah? dia sudah berkahwin pun, kenapa saya masih nak belajar ttg syiah dan menyebabkan saya sukar mendapat jodoh? kadang2 saya marah dengan takdir yg telah menimpa saya. saya betul2 buntu.

macam mana nak kenal komuniti syiah di malaysia? ada hauzah di mana2?

ttg lelaki baru itu, saya akan bagitau dia jika saya rasa saya boleh percayakan dia, tengok dulu dia macam mana. sebab saya rasa sekarang kriteria pertama bakal suami saya mestilah syiah supaya dia dpt membimbing saya.

:(

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(salam)

Sure, you can reply in any language that you feel most comfortable. I understand you perfectly.

My recommendation for you is to subscribe to the Malaysian Shia Yahoo groups. The information that you are looking for is not publically available. But yes, you may find Shia community in Malaysia in a number of states.

You cannot feel sad for yourself. You shouldn’t be a follower of ahlul bayt because of a man.

I believe that marrying a man who is a follower of ahlul bayt is very important. Why should we compromise on this?

At the same, you have a Sunni background. And with this background I think it will be easier for you to approach a Sunni. I think you need to gauge how much he knows about Shia.

apakah saya ikhlas dengan syiah? dia sudah berkahwin pun, kenapa saya masih nak belajar ttg syiah dan menyebabkan saya sukar mendapat jodoh? kadang2 saya marah dengan takdir yg telah menimpa saya. saya betul2 buntu.

I think differently that you. I wouldn’t care if I die a spinster or an old lady by myself, as long as my faith is correct. I do believe there are men for all of us. He just needs to find you.

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sister sunflower,

assalammualaykum, glad to meet you here :)

akak, janganlah bersedih ye, jangan rase keseorangan ikut jalan ahlulbayt ni, sebab kite sebenarnye dah ade komuniti ahlulbayt kat malaysia ni, dah capai dalam puluh ribu la

even kat johor , kalau tak silap siti, ader 5 hawzah

akak, feel free untuk contact siti tau

allow me to be your friend yeah :)

love you

siti

oh , sister

trust me

the light of islam + the light of ahlulbayt

is the most precious things ever

don't tell me you'd throw this valuable pearl back to the sea

oh, do not feel sad

nor feel distressed

as you are not alone

we are but in the same boat, the same bahtera :) the right one!

now there is no confusion

the light of truth has reached us

there is no room to feel sad

no room to feel disappointed

as Allah has guided us to the right away

oh, this is the Siratul Mustaqim

the right one!

now remind yourself

that you are among the lucky one

that your heart do not reject

but instead accepting the truth

the bitter experience you face

trust me

Allah will substitute it with the better one

the patience that you have

your position certainly would be elevated

oh, this world is temporary

therefore the sadness would be temporary

therefore don't feel sad

don't feel despair

trust me

Allah is with each and every one of us!

oh you find the light of ahlulbayt

while many others are still drowning

oh you find the perfect teaching of islam

while others are still confusing

oh indeed , indeed

the light of islam + thel light of ahlulbayt

what a gifts that no one can ever create! :)

may Allah grant you patience , sis

may Allah grant you peace in your soft heart :)

may Allah remove your worry and sorrow

and replace you with stg better for tomorror

keep going, keep going

keep going, keep going

struggling in this way

the way which lead us to nothing

but the ultimate SUCCESS !! :)

siti :)

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(salam)

Sure, you can reply in any language that you feel most comfortable. I understand you perfectly.

My recommendation for you is to subscribe to the Malaysian Shia Yahoo groups. The information that you are looking for is not publically available. But yes, you may find Shia community in Malaysia in a number of states.

You cannot feel sad for yourself. You shouldn’t be a follower of ahlul bayt because of a man.

I believe that marrying a man who is a follower of ahlul bayt is very important. Why should we compromise on this?

At the same, you have a Sunni background. And with this background I think it will be easier for you to approach a Sunni. I think you need to gauge how much he knows about Shia.

I think differently that you. I wouldn’t care if I die a spinster or an old lady by myself, as long as my faith is correct. I do believe there are men for all of us. He just needs to find you.

(wasalam)

(salam)

Sis Zareen, betul... memang saya pernah terfikir pun kalau saya tak jumpa seorang lelaki pencinta Ahlul Bayt, saya lebih rela saja membujang sampai mati. Tapi saya ada fitrah macam org lain juga... cuma yelah, setelah apa yg berlaku ni mungkin kena sgt berhati2 dan jadi sgt pemilih.

Saya baru subscribe Malaysian Shia Yahoo site tapi belum ada peluang tgk apa yg ada dlm archive.

Sis Zareen di Msia ke?

Ada satu lagi persoalan yg sedikit mengganggu saya ttg fahaman syiah sebenarnya. Harap sis sudi terangkan?

Masa saya mula2 belajar ttg syiah, saya baca buku At Tijani, Akhirnya Kutemui Kebenaran. Dalam pendedahan buku saya akui itu adalah memang membuka mata saya betul, kiranya mmg itu shock revelation yg pertama bg saya... tp biasalah, kita manusia mula2 apabila selama ni kita ingat kita betul, tapi bila dpt pendedahan, kita akan jadi in denial sekejap, nak defend juga apa yg kita tau selama ni adalah benar although dh diberi penerangan dan bukti2 bahawa selama 'kebenaran' yg kita pelajari sejak kita kanak2 tu rupanya dah ditutup oleh sesetengah pihak.

Antara benda yg mula2 yg saya tak dpt terima adalah tentang perbuatan 2 khalifah pertama... selama ini yg saya belajar semua sahabat adalah benar.. tiba2 dpt tau sebaliknya... mula2 tak nak ngaku... dan takut berdosa sebab memikirkan sifat2 buruk sahabat nabi...

Tapi sis, patutkah kita mencela mereka... sebab bg saya, memang saya akui kemuliaan Imam Ali as itu sendiri telah meletakkan Imam Ali as di tempat yg lebih tinggi drpd mereka... Maksud saya, 2 khalifah pertama itu sahabat nabi, ada kebaikan2 yg mereka lakukan tapi selepas kewafatan nabi, mereka terpesong.

Bagi saya, tak perlu mencela mereka dan tak perlu juga memuji mereka, tetapi pujilah Imam Ali as dan sahabat2 lain yg menyokong Imam Ali as... maka secara tak langsung meletakkan Imam Ali di tempat yg lebih mulia dan lebih utama... Bolehkah saya bersikap sebegini?

Satu lagi, saya sangat tak senang dgn sesetengah website atau di SC ini sendiri yg memuja2 gambar Imam 12... Saya tak faham, apakah semua pencinta AB begini - menggambarkan imam2 yg maksum dgn gambar2 mengikut imaginasi sendiri?

Harap sis sudi terangkan.

Terima kasih.

sister sunflower,

assalammualaykum, glad to meet you here :)

akak, janganlah bersedih ye, jangan rase keseorangan ikut jalan ahlulbayt ni, sebab kite sebenarnye dah ade komuniti ahlulbayt kat malaysia ni, dah capai dalam puluh ribu la

even kat johor , kalau tak silap siti, ader 5 hawzah

akak, feel free untuk contact siti tau

allow me to be your friend yeah :)

love you

siti

(wasalam)

siti... terima kasih banyak2 ye ... *hugs*

terima kasih jugak dgn semua links tu....

siti mmg dari family AB?

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assalammualaykum, sister

ni siti ni, siti tak boleh nak terang pasal family siti secara umum, better to be careful, sebab forum ni terbuke, sape2 boleh bace,

jadi pertanyaan akak, siti cube jawab sebaiknye yek :)

keluarge siti asalnye sunni, maksudnye sume sunni, atuk, nenek, sedare mare belah abah mak sume sunni, tapi alhamdulillah, kire-kire 20 tahun yg lalu, abah mak mula mendekati ahlulbayt selepas bace sebuah buku tajuknye "zainab al kubra" (kalau tak silap la tajuknye bunyi cam tu :) )

time tu siti masih baby lagi :) skang dah besar 21 tahun :)

dan ye alhamdulillah abah mak terime ahlulbayt dgn hati yg gembire mendapat cahaye kebenaran, tapi abh dan mak tak pakse pun anak2 ikut (kami 7 beradik), abah kate terpulang, nak ikut sunni ke ahlulbayt, abah cume terangkan mane yg patut, :)

so time siti sekolah, nampak jugaklah perbezaan kite sembahyang etc, each time bile tanye abah, abah kate, kite ikut keluarge ahlulbayt, pastu abah tanye, mana lagi dekat, keluarge nabi ke sahabat nabi? so dari situ siti mule berfikir secara logik, tapi masih ikut2 je, tak mendalami dan tak memahami

kami sekeluarge pun taqiyah je, hidup dalam komuniti sunni kann, takde pergi husainiah ke, ceramah ke, so sekarang je baru nak bercampur dgn kawan2 ahlulbayt, dulu tak sebab ade peristiwa pahit , seperti fitnah, menyebabkan kami pindah -randah

macam mane nak cakap ek, bile kite jumpe cahaya kebenaran, kite mestilah nak share kan, supaya sume org dapat benefit , tapi yela, tak semudah itu, tapi kami tak kan give up dan sentiase menuggu peluang menyebarkan ahlulbayt, we wish to save everyone, that's our mission :)

siti, belajar detail dan mula memahami ahlulbayt betul2 mase umur 15 tahun, memang banyak belajar sendiri, online, gune internet, macam2 buku bace, so alhamdulillah, siti memang yakin siti tak tersalah pilih :)

benar kebenaran itu pahit, tapi itulah hakikatnye, tapi yela siti bersyukur kan ramai2 tu, siti antare yg dapat menerime cahaya ahlulbayt ni, jadi, dah rase tanggungjawab untuk sebarkan mane yg mampu, tu je kot yg mampu siti buat sebagai tande syukur siti :)

akak, yg pasal kahwin tu, izinkan siti mencelah ye,

kahwin jangan tak kahwin tau,

sebab kahwin ni bende wajib untuk kite mendekatkan diri kepade Allah,

siti memang kempen habis supaye semue single kahwin cepat2, jadi akak your intention tu, siti memang support habis aa! :)

akak, nak siti cube carikan tak? :) siti memang suke jadi org tengah,, ni pun tengah jadi org tengah abg2 siti + kawan2 siti, yep tak salah kite berusaha kan !

yg pasal sahabat tu, yelah, ape yg pastu kite sedar bahawa mereka tak maksum, so tak pelik kalau buat salah, sebab yg maksum ni, cume imam, nabi, fatimah zahra, fatimah ma'sooma..em.. memanglah tak seronok dgr org kutuk2, kite senang ambik jln tengah , biarlah urusan mereke dgn Allah,

siti suke doa pade Allah, Ya Allah let me love whom You love, let me hate whom You hate, Your friend is my friend, Your enemies is certainly my enemies :)

lagi pulak dalam zaman yg mencabar ni, di mane musuh2 kite , si zionis, si america, si britain , taliban dan lain2, mereke sedang mencari2, tertunggu2 peluang nak jatuhkan umat islam, so kite kene sedaya upaya , pertahankan dan sebarkan brotherhood + love among us, tak gitu ? so, dalam usahe nak sebarkan ahlulbayt ni kene ader strategy, tak boleh la tup2 kutuk sahabat , confirm ader yg kecik hati punye

ape2 akak, siti rase lebih baik kite bersederhane, dah dapat cahaye ahlulbayt ni, dah bersyukur teramat luar biase, indeed we owe Allah a great, a great debt :)

panjang sangat ke siti tulis ni?? ops, sorry :)

sentiase mendoakan kejayaan akak di dunia+ akhirat

siti

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assalammualaykum, sister

ni siti ni, siti tak boleh nak terang pasal family siti secara umum, better to be careful, sebab forum ni terbuke, sape2 boleh bace,

jadi pertanyaan akak, siti cube jawab sebaiknye yek :)

(wasalam)

(salam)

Siti.... bertuahnya siti sebab Allah bagi hidayah pada parents siti dulu... jadi sekarang ni semua family siti ikut ahlul bayt? masa parents siti dulu dpt tentangan mana2 pihak tak?

masa akak mula2 tau ttg ahlul bayt, akak pernah tanya pendapat maka akak... tapi dia jwb senang je, "jgn terpengaruh. syiah ni lebihkan Ali drpd nabi." jadi akak tau pendiriian mak akak, akak tak pernah sebut lagi pasal tu... tapi belajar juga la sikit2... sekarang duduk rumah sewa, duduk sendiri, jadi taklah ketara sangat... risau juga lah kalau sesekali balik kg, especially masa Ramadhan, nak lewat2kan bukak puasa macam agak payah sikit. :(

tapi akak tau di msia memang tak boleh terang2 sangat nak tunjuk kita ni ikut ahlul bayt... akak dgr cerita, ada pihak pemerintah pun yg tak suka pengikut ahlul bayt ni kan...

siti... siti... sampai nk jadi orang tengah... :blush: akak bukan muda lagi siti, dah nak masuk 30 pun... sebab tu akak pun macam tak berapa harap sangat dah.. dan dgn akak yg tak kenal mana2 orang yang ikut AB ni, akak rasa impossible sangat... :(

btw, buku Zainab Al Kubra tu boleh dapat di mana ye?

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(salam)

(wasalam)

(salam)

Sis Zareen, betul... memang saya pernah terfikir pun kalau saya tak jumpa seorang lelaki pencinta Ahlul Bayt, saya lebih rela saja membujang sampai mati. Tapi saya ada fitrah macam org lain juga... cuma yelah, setelah apa yg berlaku ni mungkin kena sgt berhati2 dan jadi sgt pemilih.

Saya baru subscribe Malaysian Shia Yahoo site tapi belum ada peluang tgk apa yg ada dlm archive.

Sis Zareen di Msia ke?

Ada satu lagi persoalan yg sedikit mengganggu saya ttg fahaman syiah sebenarnya. Harap sis sudi terangkan?

Masa saya mula2 belajar ttg syiah, saya baca buku At Tijani, Akhirnya Kutemui Kebenaran. Dalam pendedahan buku saya akui itu adalah memang membuka mata saya betul, kiranya mmg itu shock revelation yg pertama bg saya... tp biasalah, kita manusia mula2 apabila selama ni kita ingat kita betul, tapi bila dpt pendedahan, kita akan jadi in denial sekejap, nak defend juga apa yg kita tau selama ni adalah benar although dh diberi penerangan dan bukti2 bahawa selama 'kebenaran' yg kita pelajari sejak kita kanak2 tu rupanya dah ditutup oleh sesetengah pihak.

Antara benda yg mula2 yg saya tak dpt terima adalah tentang perbuatan 2 khalifah pertama... selama ini yg saya belajar semua sahabat adalah benar.. tiba2 dpt tau sebaliknya... mula2 tak nak ngaku... dan takut berdosa sebab memikirkan sifat2 buruk sahabat nabi...

Tapi sis, patutkah kita mencela mereka... sebab bg saya, memang saya akui kemuliaan Imam Ali as itu sendiri telah meletakkan Imam Ali as di tempat yg lebih tinggi drpd mereka... Maksud saya, 2 khalifah pertama itu sahabat nabi, ada kebaikan2 yg mereka lakukan tapi selepas kewafatan nabi, mereka terpesong.

Bagi saya, tak perlu mencela mereka dan tak perlu juga memuji mereka, tetapi pujilah Imam Ali as dan sahabat2 lain yg menyokong Imam Ali as... maka secara tak langsung meletakkan Imam Ali di tempat yg lebih mulia dan lebih utama... Bolehkah saya bersikap sebegini?

Satu lagi, saya sangat tak senang dgn sesetengah website atau di SC ini sendiri yg memuja2 gambar Imam 12... Saya tak faham, apakah semua pencinta AB begini - menggambarkan imam2 yg maksum dgn gambar2 mengikut imaginasi sendiri?

Harap sis sudi terangkan.

Terima kasih.

I think you are misunderstanding why some people have the picture of our Imams. Shias don't worship these pictures. And not everyone has their pictures. My old avatar used to be a picture of Imam Hussayn (of course this is an artist impression of the picture and I never believed this looked exactly like them). I kept it so I can be reminded of him and that my avatar will remind someone else about him and the event of Karbala. You don't have to keep a picture of them if you don't want to. If you are confused about certain rulings the best person to ask is your marja.

BTW, this is the rule of my marja

Q107: Is it permissible to hang portraits of the Prophet (S), and Imams (a.s.) in the house? Is it correct to believe that they are their (a.s.) pictures?

A: It is permissible to hang them. But to believe that they (portraits) are in accordance with them (a.s.) is certainly a wrong belief

I am not currently in Malaysia. I left Malaysia a very long time ago.

I know that for an ex-Sunni, it will be hard to believe that everything you know about the companions/sahabas are lies. I would have been outrage too if I lived all my life believing that these people are not what you thought they were.

I am definitely not the right person to tell you how you should feel about the companions. To be honest no one can tell you how to feel about them. I don't have any feelings towards the companions and they daughters. They fought the ahlul bayt. I don't curse them, I don't think I have ever cursed them in my life. I am completely indifferent to them. You better check out the current discussion in the General forum. Many Shias have a different opinions about how we should treat them.

They were oppressors. And that is enough for me.

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Interestingly enough, there is a small shi'i revert Malay population in Cape Town, South Africa.

Just though you fellows may enjoy knowing that. And no I am not a Malay.

Read more about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Malay

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Assalammualaykum, sister sunflower

Siti would like to share siti's understanding from siti's analysis of the trials you face. You told siti that your relationship with him do not succeed because of the mother rejecting you once she knows that you're sunni. Honestly siti do not find the mother's action as the right thing to do, in other word, siti do not agree with her action. If siti am the mother,knowing that siti's son would get married with someone who's sunni yet has deep interest to learn about ahlulbayt, instead of rejecting her, siti would welcome her warmly in siti's family. Why? Because by doing that siti am very sure that siti could spread the message of ahlulbayt to others and by doing that siti would attain the pleasure of Allah, and with certainty siti would say that Allah would be pleased with siti to make such decision.

Indeed this phrase is true , that "all goodness originates from Allah, and all evil originates from us", and there is no doubt that when we have lack of knowledge, being ignorant, therefore more susceptible to make mistake, more susceptible to make wrong decision, so as a consequence, others suffer due to our action.

Just like Allah says in The Holy Quran:

"Whatever of good reaches you is from Allah, but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself," (4:79)

And in sister's case, siti can see that you're totally innocent in any way, therefore rest assured lest syaitan try to make you feel uncomfortable by putting whispering doubt within your heart..

Oh, now siti realize how true it is! That all sort of evil in this world originates from the weakness of human being (these include pride,ego, ignorance, hypocrisy etc), and all goodness is indeed from Allah...as He's The Perfect One..therefore there is no room for Him to make mistake, or forget,or etc J

Therefore sister, deep in siti's heart, siti wish that you'd not let yourself to feel doubt on the mercy and love that Allah has towards you despite of the bitter experience you have gone through. And by pondering from this verse:

"And We task not any person except according to his capacity, and with Us is a Record which speaks the truth, and they will not be wronged," (23:62)

So from this verse, what siti understand is, whatever difficulties fall on us, we can definitely face it, as Allah , He is so Merciful that He won't test something which we cannot bear, right, for that would be unjust for Him, which is not His reality. But we all know that we human being are weak, easily feel disappointed, distress over something which happen contrary to our expectation. And certainly there is no strength and patience save in Allah. Therefore to Him we turn , always seek His assistance to bestow us the patience to pass through this trial in this world.. and we all know that by being patient, we are definitely not alone! Allah always be our StrongSupporter Jas He tells and reminds us, trying to comfort us at the same time by saying:

"Oh you who believe! Ask help with patient and prayer,surely Allah WITH the patient..," (2:153)

And Allah gives us the light of hope by saying.. :

" Verily, along with every hardship is relief," (95:5-6)

And it is very clear that Allah wishes us happiness, and ease in our life, where He reminds us the fact that….

"Allah wishes to lighten (the burden) for you…" (4:28)

Last but not least, indeed this life is a trial for all of us, mix with sadness and happiness, mix with ease and difficulties, etc. but this is the best way to test our faith…but again…

"And We task not any person except according to hiscapacity, and with Us is a Record which speaks the truth, and they will not be wronged," (23:62)

And Allah encourages us to be patient while being steadfast, keeping our duty to Him where He says:

Say: "O My slaves who believe (oh, this is referring to all of us including me J) ,fear your Lord and keep your duty to Him. Good (the reward) is for those who do good in this world, and Allah's earth is spacious! Only those who are patient shall receive their reward in full without reckoning." (39:10)

Therefore sis, let's ask Allah to grant us patience and include us among those who pass this trial successfully with flying colours! J bunyi macam dalam exam pulak Jbut it's true J

Inshaallah as for siti's duty, siti would try my best, to help you in any way, of course with Allah's help, inshaallah. All goodness indeed originate from Allah, oh, how i love this words!

siti :)

*sis zaireen , thanks for the explanation yeah, especially about the ruling of hanging the portraits :)

*jawsofdeth , of course we feel great and happy to know about such news, thanks! :)

*sis sunflower, inshaallah about the book, siti would try my best to find out how to get one, i hope somebody sell the book somewhere :)

regarding marriage, also will try, as long as we are still alive, always has room to put an effort there, right? whether it will succeed or not, let's leave it to Allah , The Best of Planner :)

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Wow. A Malay Shia?

Honestly, I didn't know y'all existed.

But, assalamu alaikum!

Apa khabar?

Saya bosan sekarang. >.<

Waalaykumsalam cuppycakee :)

alhamdulillah we can see the light of ahlulbayt has reached our country Malaysia, :) hopefully everybody would benefit from this light, inshaallah

*sis sunflower, about the book Saiyidah Zainab, please give me about 6 days yeah :)

with the prayer of success

siti

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(salam)

I think you are misunderstanding why some people have the picture of our Imams. Shias don't worship these pictures. And not everyone has their pictures. My old avatar used to be a picture of Imam Hussayn (of course this is an artist impression of the picture and I never believed this looked exactly like them). I kept it so I can be reminded of him and that my avatar will remind someone else about him and the event of Karbala. You don't have to keep a picture of them if you don't want to. If you are confused about certain rulings the best person to ask is your marja.

BTW, this is the rule of my marja

I am not currently in Malaysia. I left Malaysia a very long time ago.

I know that for an ex-Sunni, it will be hard to believe that everything you know about the companions/sahabas are lies. I would have been outrage too if I lived all my life believing that these people are not what you thought they were.

I am definitely not the right person to tell you how you should feel about the companions. To be honest no one can tell you how to feel about them. I don't have any feelings towards the companions and they daughters. They fought the ahlul bayt. I don't curse them, I don't think I have ever cursed them in my life. I am completely indifferent to them. You better check out the current discussion in the General forum. Many Shias have a different opinions about how we should treat them.

They were oppressors. And that is enough for me.

(salam)

Sis Zareen, thanks very much for your explanation. Yes, 'indifferent', that's the word.

Btw, bagaimana nak tahu siapa marja kita? Bolehkah dipilih sesuka hati?

Interestingly enough, there is a small shi'i revert Malay population in Cape Town, South Africa.

Just though you fellows may enjoy knowing that. And no I am not a Malay.

Read more about them here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Malay

(salam)

I just know about the malay community in Cape Town, but not the Shi'i part. Thanks for the information!

BTW, did you read all Ali Shariati's works?

I read Fatima is Fatima I love it.

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Assalammualaykum, sister sunflower

Siti would like to share siti's understanding from siti's analysis of the trials you face. You told siti that your relationship with him do not succeed because of the mother rejecting you once she knows that you're sunni. Honestly siti do not find the mother's action as the right thing to do, in other word, siti do not agree with her action. If siti am the mother,knowing that siti's son would get married with someone who's sunni yet has deep interest to learn about ahlulbayt, instead of rejecting her, siti would welcome her warmly in siti's family. Why? Because by doing that siti am very sure that siti could spread the message of ahlulbayt to others and by doing that siti would attain the pleasure of Allah, and with certainty siti would say that Allah would be pleased with siti to make such decision.

Indeed this phrase is true , that "all goodness originates from Allah, and all evil originates from us", and there is no doubt that when we have lack of knowledge, being ignorant, therefore more susceptible to make mistake, more susceptible to make wrong decision, so as a consequence, others suffer due to our action.

Just like Allah says in The Holy Quran:

"Whatever of good reaches you is from Allah, but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself," (4:79)

And in sister's case, siti can see that you're totally innocent in any way, therefore rest assured lest syaitan try to make you feel uncomfortable by putting whispering doubt within your heart..

(salam)

Siti, maybe it was my own fault. I was ignorant, I did not know much about Shi'i before I knew that guy. All I knew that Shi'e are supporter of Ali. I read the history, I was baffled when Aisha declared a war between her and Ali but I never raised the question: who was right, who was wrong? It's like, don't question the history, don't analyse, don't question about sahabah. I was afraid to think beyond that.

So the first time I learnt about Shia, of course I have to defend my faith, something that I've been learned and raised. Of course I was defensive, it was the first step before you accept the change. But I learned very slowly about Shi'i, I read and I have to do a lot of thinking. Furthermore, I simply cannot convert myself to Shi'i because of a guy. This guy sensed this, he thought I was slow, or maybe he thought I'm not interested in Shi'i. And his mother asked him a lot of questions too, and it's seems that I'm not converting to Shi'i soon, but you cannot rush into this kind of things! So the rest is history. I blame myself for it because I take a very long time, even today, after two years, I have not convert to Shi'i yet.

Probably what happened was the best for everybody - she got a daughter-in-law and he got a wife. But I don't know what's in for myself.

Wow. A Malay Shia?

Honestly, I didn't know y'all existed.

But, assalamu alaikum!

Apa khabar?

Saya bosan sekarang. >.<

Alaikumussalam

Khabar baik!

You are not Malaysian, r u?

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(salam)

Siti, maybe it was my own fault. I was ignorant, I did not know much about Shi'i before I knew that guy. All I knew that Shi'e are supporter of Ali. I read the history, I was baffled when Aisha declared a war between her and Ali but I never raised the question: who was right, who was wrong? It's like, don't question the history, don't analyse, don't question about sahabah. I was afraid to think beyond that.

So the first time I learnt about Shia, of course I have to defend my faith, something that I've been learned and raised. Of course I was defensive, it was the first step before you accept the change. But I learned very slowly about Shi'i, I read and I have to do a lot of thinking. Furthermore, I simply cannot convert myself to Shi'i because of a guy. This guy sensed this, he thought I was slow, or maybe he thought I'm not interested in Shi'i. And his mother asked him a lot of questions too, and it's seems that I'm not converting to Shi'i soon, but you cannot rush into this kind of things! So the rest is history. I blame myself for it because I take a very long time, even today, after two years, I have not convert to Shi'i yet.

Probably what happened was the best for everybody - she got a daughter-in-law and he got a wife. But I don't know what's in for myself.

Alaikumussalam

Khabar baik!

You are not Malaysian, r u?

Lololol, tidak tidak,

saya dari amerika. =P

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