Ibn al-Hussain 2,542 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 (salam)Matam in HyderabadSourceMatam in New DelhiWassalam Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hussain_Abbas 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 Mashallah JEOOOOOOOOOOOOO PUTAROO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wayfarer. 460 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 (salam):cry: Jazakallah for posting. Proud of my Hyderabad! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hussain_Abbas 0 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 (edited) me too mashAllah, look at how we guard the alam with diamonds around... we have elephants running in the hood, wut now pakisyou guys cant touch our superior matam styleand look at those knives wah mashAllah Edited December 25, 2008 by Hussain_Abbas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabir ibn Hayyan 5 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 (edited) me too mashAllah, look at how we guard the alam with diamonds around... we have elephants running in the hood, wut now pakisyou guys cant touch our superior matam style and look at those knives wah mashAllahMasha Allah Matami, jeo Azadaron..... Mola Salamat Rakhain :cry: Muharram Jaloos (Karachi, Pakistan)Aazan Mola Ali Akber a.s Ashura Morning Lahore, pakistan ... Edited December 25, 2008 by Dr_Asad_77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sk00n 4 Report post Posted December 25, 2008 (salam):cry: Jazakallah for posting. Proud of my Hyderabad!Hyderabaad always makes me proud! :wub: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Aba 3abdillah 1,679 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 God what an embarrassment to Imam Hussain (as). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zainab_ 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 :mad: May the curse of Allah be upon the killers (la) of Imam Hussein ibn Ali (as), Ali Asghar (as) and Hadhrat Abbas Ibn Ali (as) and all those who died in the plains of Karbala, and curse those who humiliated our Bibi Zaynab (sa) as well as the rest of the family of our Imam (as) who lived, Allah I ask that the evil tyrants (la) be given not one single drop of mercy, for the crimes they committed upon Those (as) whom I love, and Those (as) whom You (awj) love the most, the Masumeen (as) You are All Justice, All Mighty. May our lives be sacrificed for Them (as) and let not one single tear shed that is not shed for love of the Ahlul Bayt (as) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto_Zapata 897 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 Why not donate the blood to people who really need it ? Mankind... My GOD...I know people who drink alcohol the night before matam just so their blood rushes more the next day... What a great way to show love for Imam Hussein (a.s.) Fi Sabeel-El-Llah... :excl: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Musafir-E-Shaam 2 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 God what an embarrassment to Imam Hussain (as).I never knew Imam Hussain (a.s) told you his view upon azadari. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Musafir-E-Shaam 2 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I know people who drink alcohol the night before matam just so their blood rushes more the next day... What a great way to show love for Imam Hussein (a.s.) Fi Sabeel-El-Llah... :excl:what a load of bollocks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Aba 3abdillah 1,679 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I never knew Imam Hussain (a.s) told you his view upon azadari. It's a given. If your child went and smacked a helpless old lady across the face, even if he's not concious of his act due to his age, won't you as the parent feel embarrassed? And won't others know you're embarrassed?OH HUSSAIN, I LOVE YOU MY IMAM, I LOVE YOU SO MUCH THAT THAT, OH I'M GOING TO BLEED, YEH, I'M GOING TO CUT MYSELF UP AND SLASH MY HEAD AND BACK AND MUTILATE MYSELF AND MAKE PEOPLE THINK THAT YOUR SHIA ARE SAVAGES, THAT IS ENOUGH PROOF THAT I AM A MAN AND THAT I LOVE YOU YES.Give me a break. If someone wants to really prove their love, attempt to read zyarat warith every fajr for 6 months in a row or something, or pay half your wages to send some poor elderly person to hajj.Imam Sadiq (as) "Be representatives of us, do not be a burden upon us." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zainab_ 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 brother, why not all of this? why not reading extra dua and saying all the nafl prayers and giving to the poor all you can as well as zanjeer?I know someone who does the absolute best they can to be a shia of Ali a.s. yet also they do zanjeer (granted they do this at home, rather in a street), soley for love of Imam Hussein a.s. I do not see any problem with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ya Aba 3abdillah 1,679 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 ^ because the harm outweighs the benefits. What do you benefit from cutting yourself up? Closeness to the Imam? More religious? There are plenty of other ways to attain those without the negative baggage that comes with mutilating ones body and shaming Imam Hussain (as). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zainab_ 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I do not see the shame, I have seen a couple arguments that it gives a bad impression of Islam but I am an ex-christian and seeing zanjeer and matam never made me think badly of those who do this in anyway, and it most certainly was not off-putting in my decision to follow our most perfect faith, to be honest I can fully understand someone doing this.so, how is this somehow a shame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingdong 21 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 God what an embarrassment to Imam Hussain (as).True. I strongly doubt any of these folk are smarter and more 'exposed to the world' than a marja. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto_Zapata 897 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 what a load of bollocks.u calling me a liar ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iraqi_shia 490 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I feel insulted that these people are claiming to be shias. They are hijacking the religion and turning it into some kind of hindu cult. Also note, the lack of beards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaffa_Shia 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I do not see the shame, I have seen a couple arguments that it gives a bad impression of Islam but I am an ex-christian and seeing zanjeer and matam never made me think badly of those who do this in anyway, and it most certainly was not off-putting in my decision to follow our most perfect faith, to be honest I can fully understand someone doing this.so, how is this somehow a shame? (salam) Ya Ali MadadSame here, I am also a convert to shi,ism (from a jewish background) and think that zanjir/tatbir is one of the most beutifull things anyone can do from there loveof Imam Hussein (a.s.) in fact its one of the things which brought me to shi,ism because after i became muslim i saw the tatbir mawakib on the TV ( after the downfall ofsaddam (LA) in Iraq) This made me understand how important the event of Karbala was and i went and read about it as i did not know much about islamic history at all at the time.Another thing, so many on this board are saying things like "the marjas do not allow it" as if sayed khamenei and sayed fadlallah are the only maraja. For your informationmy marja, sayed sadiq al-shirazi says tatbir/qama zani is very mustahab, whether in public or in private.In my opinion, it is no shame, in fact it is a great honour to shed ones blood for love of Imam Hussein. :yaali: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingdong 21 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 loool they wonna die for Imam Hussain (as)? Show it in real life. Go fight in Palestine. Go get whipped in Israeli jails. Try getting pain inflicted on yourself completely at the mercy of the enemy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaffa_Shia 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 I feel insulted that these people are claiming to be shias. They are hijacking the religion and turning it into some kind of hindu cult. Also note, the lack of beards.I feel insulted when i see ultra-nationalistic and racist people claiming to be shias.Why is it that those who are anti-azadari always seem to be political extremists and often racist, especialy towards Indians and Pakistanis ?People with these kinds of attitudes would be better off becoming wahhabi, there are no lack of beards among them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iraqi_shia 490 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 loool they wonna die for Imam Hussain (as)? Show it in real life. Go fight in Palestine. Go get whipped in Israeli jails. Try getting pain inflicted on yourself completely at the mercy of the enemy.Good point. Also note how its always in public with their shirts off. Looks like they are trying to impress their own community rather than do a decent deed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zainab_ 1 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 ^^^no its not always in public, I know someone who does this inside their house when no one is around.some people do it because they love their Imam (as). Imam Hussein shed His blood and gave His (as) life for us, so we could have the right to call ourselves shia today, if Imam Hussein can do that for us whats a few cuts for Him a.s.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ali01 0 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 imam shed his blood in battle...they should do the same if they want to so badwouldn we of had the right to cal ourselves shia anyway?? cause we beleive imam ali should of bin khalif...no mater wata few cuts??they cut themselvs wen and til its good for them to do so...when it gets seirous, cry lik [Edited Out]es n need medical attention......pfffffffft y dn they use the miracle of husayn to get em outa medical treatment?i feel sick...i had to stop drinkn my protein shake...puddle of najis blood.........beatin ur chest with an inovative blade between ur fingers?? nice...we not alowed to use foreign objects for certain things lol but for this....ye no worries....imam wil apreciate us buyin blades to put between our fingers....get a life u scum bagsgo train urslves to b soldiers so wen ur kids can tc of the family u can go to afghanistan n fight the opresors n do somthn useful with ur blood Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
awaitingyou1 41 Report post Posted December 26, 2008 Salaam,i remember in one of the battles Rasoolallah's teeth broked and this news reached a believer Ovais e Karni who in prophets love broke all of his teeth. tht was harmfull too but it was nt a sin bcos he did out of love. so if we cut and shed our blood out of love for imam husain as , i dont think thts shame or bad. imam husain as and his fly has shed more blood than all of those shias together do. just bcos they do in public tht doesnt mean they r trying to shw off. if thts the thing then from tommorrow everyone will sit at home and cry for imam ..no one will attend majalis and cry in public. in a way we r also trying to give a message to non muslims abt karbala and huge sacrifice of our imam like 2 of our bros/sis already said above. their wordings shw how much mustahab and imp this act is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites