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Qama Zani And Zanjeer Zani Banned In Kerbala?

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(salam)

I heard from Zaereen of Kerbala that they were not allowed to do Qama and Zanjeer Zani this Arbayeen...Did Ayatollah Sistani says it is haram ?If not why was it not allowed this time.

Any brothers or sisters who can shed some light on this matter.

(wasalam)

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Nah. All darkness

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(salam)

I heard from Zaereen of Kerbala that they were not allowed to do Qama and Zanjeer Zani this Arbayeen

U heard wrong.

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(salam)

You're always a ray of bright light

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I heard quite the opposite. I heard it was performed inside the haram

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I heard nothing.

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Have to keep your ears open

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Both ends of the spectrum

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(salam)

I heard from Zaereen of Kerbala that they were not allowed to do Qama and Zanjeer Zani this Arbayeen...Did Ayatollah Sistani says it is haram ?If not why was it not allowed this time.

Any brothers or sisters who can shed some light on this matter.

(wasalam)

read Ayatullah Seestani's ruling about Qama and Zanjeer with blades its an eye opener. The die hard blood letters of course claim there is room for doubt as to whether it is haram or halal. However cross examining resident Alims who are muqallids of Ayatullah Seestani reveals he is firmly against it,

as to wh Zanjeer and Qama are carried out in Iraq despite Ayatullah Seestani's ruling the reason is simple. Ayatullah Seestani does not rule Iraq therefore his rulings carry no legal force.

salaam

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I saw some videos on tv and on youtube, it seems that the organised processions are now just using blunt sticks on rope, and no blades are to be seen.

The guys doing it were in a circle with white towels on their backs, they never bled, just struck their backs like a drum, making noise.

They all did it in rhythmn, it was quite musical, nice to watch.

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I hope they will put an end to this madness soon so that people can stop ruining the name of the Shi3ah.

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I hope they will put an end to this madness soon so that people can stop ruining the name of the Shi3ah.

Never. Do you have any idea how many people have become Shia through their curiousity in zanjeer zani?

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And how many have been repulsed? --- maybe we can then see what the net effect is...

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in regards to the OP: i know many people who were in Karbala at the time and the Azadari of Imam Hussain continued with due reverence! this includes Qama and Zanjeer.

in regards to those who are trying to fuel another debate against various forms of Azadari: please save it for appropriate forums. there are enough created already. lets stick to the topic.

reps of Ayatullah Sistani that i know have not spoken out against these forms of Azadari.

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it makes me question shiasm and im a shia.

However when i looked into it, its clearly nothing to do with the religion.

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I hope they will put an end to this madness soon so that people can stop ruining the name of the Shi3ah.

Totally agree with you.

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U heard wrong.

Actually, he heard perfectly right.

Qama and Zanjeer Zani was stopped in Karbala on Arbaeen.

Ayatollah Seestani requested the Iraqi's not to do Qama and Zanjeer near the Holy Shrines, but they could do it inside their own homes if they wished to.

And the reason was... Security, basically.

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Actually, he heard perfectly right.

Qama and Zanjeer Zani was stopped in Karbala on Arbaeen.

Ayatollah Seestani requested the Iraqi's not to do Qama and Zanjeer near the Holy Shrines, but they could do it inside their own homes if they wished to.

And the reason was... Security, basically.

Thats right. I heard the same! Actually my mom heard it in Majlis, and she told us this!!

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So yep, I was actually trying to point out that he DID NOT say it was Haraam.

It was to be avoided because of security reasons...

Apparently, about 40-60 something terrorists had entered Karbala- and you never know what kind of person is on one end of the Qama sword.

there was also a mo'jiza, I heard, regarding one of the female terorists.

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(salam)

I by my eyes saw Zanjeer Zani and Qama Zani in karbala on Ashoora..

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May Allah curse the enemies of Ahlul Bayt. These stupid people are killing soo many innocent ppl there who are visiting our Imams. Sorry for getting off-topic!

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Actually, he heard perfectly right.

Qama and Zanjeer Zani was stopped in Karbala on Arbaeen.

Ayatollah Seestani requested the Iraqi's not to do Qama and Zanjeer near the Holy Shrines, but they could do it inside their own homes if they wished to.

And the reason was... Security, basically.

(salam)

If this is a security issue, we can expect this ban on Ashura also?

Thanks

(wasalam)

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^

Who knows? Isn't likely to last, though

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