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MUZAFFARPUR: On the tenth day of Muharram, the first month of Islamic calendar, Shia Muslims across the world spend the day in mourning to commemorate the 1327-year-old martyrdom of Hazrat Imam Hussain, his family and followers. Here on Sunday, a group of Hindus participated in the Muharram procession with equal veneration.

They claim their lineage to Hussaini Brahmin sect. And, from this year, they have revived their centuries-old tradition of shedding tears in the memory of the martyrs of Karbala -- which their ancestors used to do. Mostly Bhumihars, the group marched barefoot from Bara Imambara in Brahampur locality here beating their chest and chanting "Ya Hussain".

They also carried a banner proclaiming their sentiments towards the Imam and his martyrdom. "Our ancestors also fought in support of Imam Hussain and sacrificed their lives in Karbala and we are equally pained at the historical martyrdom," said Bhumihar Brahmin Mahasabha convenor Arun Kumar Sharma.

References in several books and records confirm that some Hindus did join Imam Hussain, the grandson of Prophet Mohammad, when he was through a bloody battle against Yezid at Karbala (in Iraq) on October 10, 680 AD.

The sect, which was later named Hussaini Brahmin, had settled on the banks of river Euphrates. Subsequently, they returned to India and assumed various titles like Datts, Mohiyals, Tyagis and many others. They also practised an intriguing blend of Islamic and Hindu traditions.

This was the first time in recent memory that the people claiming the lineage joined the Muharram rituals in this part of the country. The late Sunil Dutt, who belonged to Hussaini Brahmin sect, used to attend Muharram processions.

Asked why this practice remained discontinued for decades Sharma, a practising lawyer, said: "We can say this was the fault of our fathers and grandfathers who did not teach us about this aspect of our historical and cultural heritage."

Marching in the procession ahead of the band of young Shia youths injuring their chest and back with blades fixed to chains, small daggers or even razors, Upendra Prasad Shahi said, "The battle of Karbala was a war to save humanity and faith. We are proud that our ancestors, too, sacrificed their lives."

Legend has it that Rahab Sidh Datt had fought on behalf of Imam Hussain in the battle of Karbala, sacrificing his seven sons in the process. Rahab was the leader of a small band of career-soldiers living near Baghdad at the time of the battle of Karbala. In his novel "Karbala", Munshi Prem Chand mentions about Hindus fighting for Imam Hussain and referred to them as descendants of Ashwastthama, son of Dronacharya.

The Hussaini Brahmin sect is today a rapidly vanishing community. The younger generation of the clan are said to be abandoning their ancestral heritage, some seeing it as embarrassingly deviant. "We should, rather, feel proud of this tradition," said Sharma who has painstakingly pursued his caste people to help revive this heritage. "Before the advent of Islam, we had blood relations with the people of the Arab world," Sharma claimed.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Hindus_...how/2716459.cms

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(salam)

I have heard of husseini brahmins too, and have also seen a sikh man at some muharrum majalis. I was wondering what evidence there is for the participation of their ancestors, where it is recorded and what the opinion of our ulema is on this?

fee aman Allah

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I know in Karachi hindus take out their own procession on shab-e-Ashoor

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quote name='vsg' date='Jan 20 2008, 04:33 PM' post='1572951']

I know in Karachi hindus take out their own procession on shab-e-Ashoor

Edited by lfatima

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How interesting

Thanks for sharing lfatima, i wish there were shia sources confirming that.

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How interesting

Thanks for sharing lfatima, i wish there were shia sources confirming that.

(salam)

Thanks for your views. Well most of the stuff is public knowldge and can be visibly seen.

I guess you are talking of confirming the dar e HIndiya in Kufa..

yes i would be great to find out. I know many Maulanas in the Awadh area have spoekn of this issue.

The Hussiani Federation of India;s annual journal has many marsiyas and article by Hindus poets and even many are on its commiittees. My uncle has been associated with them, and I have seen many issues with this info.

Peace!

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A Hindu poet named Mathur said this sher:

Kam jiski ziya'ay hoN woh tanveer nahin hoon

Biddat se jo mitjaye woh tasveer nahin hoon

Gham hai meri fitrat mein to gham karta hoon Mathur

Hindu hoon magar dushman-e-Shabbir nahin hoon

The spirit of grief is universal. And the recognition of injustice is not limited to any creed or nation.

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A Hindu poet named Mathur said this sher:

Kam jiski ziya'ay hoN woh tanveer nahin hoon

Biddat se jo mitjaye woh tasveer nahin hoon

Gham hai meri fitrat mein to gham karta hoon Mathur

Hindu hoon magar dushman-e-Shabbir nahin hoon

The spirit of grief is universal. And the recognition of injustice is not limited to any creed or nation.

(salam)

Narayee Hyderrri1

Thanks for sharing sister. I was looking for this sher for a long time.. didnt know it was by the great marsiya writer Mathur Lakhnavi sahab..

"GHam meri fitrat to gham karta hoon Mathur"

Jazaye Khair..

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A Hindu poet named Mathur said this sher:

Kam jiski ziya'ay hoN woh tanveer nahin hoon

Biddat se jo mitjaye woh tasveer nahin hoon

Gham hai meri fitrat mein to gham karta hoon Mathur

Hindu hoon magar dushman-e-Shabbir nahin hoon

The spirit of grief is universal. And the recognition of injustice is not limited to any creed or nation.

True Say!

It feels great to know that even people from other community recognise the greatness of this tragedy.

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(salam)

are there any hindus that commemorate ashura in the UK

(wasalam)

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(salam)

are there any hindus that commemorate ashura in the UK

(wasalam)

I am not sure taht either any hindu Pandit's in UK have such program but I am sure if there is any one here, they will diff follow their religion.

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I havent really seen hindus that commemorate ashuria in the UK. Never seen it in my life. Maybe they do it, Maybe they don;t!

London is multi community area. I am sure, there must be some peoples here.

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Salam Alaikum

Imam Hussain's [a] aim was to rectify the ummah of his grandfather.

The spirit of Azadari is Islam. The spirit of Islam is Azadari.

The grief is the means, the aim is Islam and Iman and Taqwah.

Grief alone will not save any individual if there is no Iman.

Hindus will only grieve for Imam Husain [a] in the same way they grieve when the hero dies at the end of a Bollywood movie.

Tears will only be true to the real spirit of Azadari when the ma'rifat of Islam and La Ilaha Illallah is already there.

Sorry to be harsh, but thats how I see it.

Wassalam

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^ shank yu dear for your opinions.

According to my opinion, I don't think anyone in their right mind would be prepared to have themsleves hacked to death or even think about siding with a loosing band of people (if looking with an inordinate eye), unless they belived and had the marifat of the Ahlulbayt (as) and especially Imam Hussain (as).

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Maarifat of Azadari and Imam Hussain = Maarifat of Islam.

If one still is reverting back to idol-worshipping after a round of weeping and matam, I don't think that is the maarifat of Imam Hussain [a].

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^hmm good point.

I was refering to 'Rahab sidh dutt' who was killed in Karbala on the 10th Muharram, according to the articles posted above.

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Maarifat of Azadari and Imam Hussain = Maarifat of Islam.

If one still is reverting back to idol-worshipping after a round of weeping and matam, I don't think that is the maarifat of Imam Hussain [a].

I think that could be taken as an arrogant approach. Whereas the doors to mosques are closed to kaafirs, the unclean, etc the Door to the Ahle-Bayt is closed not no one.

We must also remember that Husayn belongs to all mankind, not just to us (as we usually think).

A person who has shed a tear for Imam Husayn (a.s.) has crossed the first step towards true enlightenment via Tawheed. Many so called muslims believe that they have found true Islam yet their hearts are stone cold when it comes the their Prophet's family, and their minds are closed to the significance of Karbala. In extreme cases, these people are the ones seen causing death and destruction wherever Husayn is mentioned and wept over. Would you say this person represents any kind of marifat?

It is so sad that you may credit these muslims, but have no value for the grief that a person neither associated with us our religion or creed has towards Karbala.

There can be no Husayn without humanity.

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It is a good thing, the message of Karbala was a universal message for every man and jinn to learn from, Muslim or not, if you search the web, you will find many non-Muslims commented on Imam Hussain (as)

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just thought id share:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/religion/slideshow-ashura-the-unique-face-of-shia-islam/

Naqi Haider, who is pictured on the right and helped organize the program in venues across Manhattan, said half of the attendees this year were Sunni. “In Muharram, we often end up going into our own isolated communities,” he said. “We wanted to make sure this was open to all Muslims, as well non-Muslims.”

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