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#1 shia_elf

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 11:15 AM

Can somebody please give me the exact meaning/translation of 'Ya Aba Abdillah' - a title of Imam Hussain (as).

Thank You in advance .
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 11:56 AM

O Father of Abdulla!

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 12:12 PM

O Father of Abdulla!


Hmmm...

Thanks for the reply .. that is what I thought - but I did not think Imam Hussain (as) had a son called Abdullah ... ?

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 01:10 PM

NO NO NO

listen back in the day when you wanted to call someone the BEST example of something you would call him "the father of so and so" for example "abu jahil" didnt have a son called jahil did he?

abdullah means "servant of Allah".

the title "aba abdullah" is an honour reserved for sayyed us shuhada, in that he is the shining example of servants of Allah for all humanity.

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Posted 10 January 2008 - 01:31 PM

I thought Abu meant "Father of" ? Or is Abu = Aba ?

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 05:29 AM

Hmmm...

Thanks for the reply .. that is what I thought - but I did not think Imam Hussain (as) had a son called Abdullah ... ?


His youngest son was named Abdullah also known as 'Ali Asghar', the 6 month infant who was butchered by Hurmula (LA).

Edited by SpIzo, 11 January 2008 - 05:31 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2008 - 05:41 AM

His youngest son was named Abdullah also known as 'Ali Asghar', the 6 month infant who was butchered by Hurmula (LA).


Salaams,

Just for clarification which is it ?

Father of Abdullah (Ali Asghar)

or

'he title "aba abdullah" is an honour reserved for sayyed us shuhada, in that he is the shining example of servants of Allah for all humanity'

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 06:26 AM

Exegesis of the Agnomen - Abu Abdillah

Edited by SpIzo, 11 January 2008 - 06:26 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2008 - 06:45 AM

Exegesis of the Agnomen - Abu Abdillah


Thank you Brother - that is exactly what I was looking for - it is a great article.

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 07:00 AM

^I'm a sister. You're welcome.

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Edited by SpIzo, 11 January 2008 - 07:01 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2008 - 09:16 AM

who was right? oh yeah! oh yeah! B)

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:32 AM

NO NO NO

listen back in the day when you wanted to call someone the BEST example of something you would call him "the father of so and so" for example "abu jahil" didnt have a son called jahil did he?

abdullah means "servant of Allah".

the title "aba abdullah" is an honour reserved for sayyed us shuhada, in that he is the shining example of servants of Allah for all humanity.


Salam
wow i never knew that
Subhanallah :wub:

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:50 AM

Informative article SpIzo, thanks for it.

So what about Abalfazl or Abulfazl? It is Hazrath Abbas(as) kuniyath... :unsure:

Which one is right aba or abu?

Edited by Sunrise, 11 January 2008 - 11:51 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2008 - 11:58 AM

Informative article SpIzo, thanks for it.

So what about Abalfazl or Abulfazl? It is Hazrath Abbas(as) kuniyath... :unsure:

Which one is right aba or abu?


i think aba is more respectful term than abu, but theyre interchangeable.

i believe the story with hazrat abbas was that he had a baby son, called fazl, a toddler. ghazi abbas wanted his son to be martyred so he sent his son out to the battlefield alone armed with his fathers sword. the biy could not lift the sword so it left a trench where he was dragging it along the sand until he was martyred.

ghazi abbas has another name, linked to this event, similar to abulfazl, when i remember it ill let u know :(

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Posted 11 January 2008 - 12:14 PM

i think aba is more respectful term than abu, but theyre interchangeable.

i believe the story with hazrat abbas was that he had a baby son, called fazl, a toddler. ghazi abbas wanted his son to be martyred so he sent his son out to the battlefield alone armed with his fathers sword. the biy could not lift the sword so it left a trench where he was dragging it along the sand until he was martyred.

ghazi abbas has another name, linked to this event, similar to abulfazl, when i remember it ill let u know :(


I will wait for the name, bt thanks for relating the event, didnt know about it.

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 09:59 AM

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Posted 13 January 2008 - 10:13 AM

oh bro im so sorry for the delay- you know what muharrams like :S

ok

ghazi abbas' name after he sent his baby son for shahadat was "SHAHENSHAH E WAFA" - or the king of loyalty. because he stood by maula hussain and wanted his son to be shaheed before jehnaab ali akbar (as),

also abu fazl is also the same as abu abdillah, i just need to find the meaning of "fazil"...then say that ghazi was the best example of that in history. shahehshah e wafa is his other title, along with ya babul hawayej, and allamadaar and qamre bani hashim.

i hope this helps. so sorry for the delay :(

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 12:15 PM

I think fazl means virtue...so hazrat Abbas' (as) tile Abufazl means father of virtue.

I've heard this in some lectures, and of course, wikipedia helps :)

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Posted 20 January 2008 - 04:21 PM

Selaam All,

With Ya Aba Abd Allah, we mean Al Imam Al Hussain(3) The translation of it is, The father of Abd Allah.. But ehm I think Abd Allah(3) wasn't Ali Al Asghar(3)!! Ali al Asghar(3), also known as Ali Zain Al Abideen (3) Abd Allah(3) was just Abd Allah(3) the little baby! Or am I wrong :unsure:

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 02:04 AM

I know this is an old topic. I stumbled in from Google. I just wanted to add some insight into the differences between abu, abi and aba.

The Arabic language (like many others) has a feature known as declension. Declension means that a noun changes slightly depending on how it relates to another noun. If the noun possesses the other noun, we use -i (Abi). If the noun acts upon the other noun we use -u (Abu). Finally, if the noun is acted on by the other noun, we use -a (Aba). In English, instead of changing the word, we change the ORDER of the words ("Father hugged me" vs "I hugged Father") and add 's (Father's pen).

So that's it. Mystery solved. I must apologise for boring anyone unfortunate enough to read this.

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 02:12 AM

Mystery almost solved... it's actually that Abu 3abdi l-Laah is in the -a form because it is a vocative (you are calling someone): Yaa Abaa! "O Father!"

Note that 3abdi l-Laahi means "of-the-slave of-God" (genitive -i twice), but that at the end of an utterance, you drop all final short vowels, so the last -i drops off.



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