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#1 HassanA

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 01:43 AM

Salam everyone!

I was wondering what the difference between Juma prayer at the mosque and obligatory prayer is?

#2 Usame

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 02:49 AM

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I heard that Rasulollah said that, the prayer on group is better than 40 years alone pray.

#3 UndercoverBrother

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 03:11 AM

Salaam

All prayers are obligitory on us to be performed individually or collectively if possible however the Jumah prayer must be performed in a congregation (Jamaah) and it is a fardh that can only be performed in that way i.e you cannot pray Jumah salah seperately. Jumah consists of a Khutbah (sermon) which is as Important as the salah itself so the molvi would give a speech on a certain topic effecting the communty (this is done in any language) then he would read the Arabic portion of the Khutbah which is mainly sending blessings on RasullAllah (pbuh) and his family (as) and close companions. Anything you do at the time of Jumah apart from praying salat ul jumah is haraam so attending class instead of praying jumah is haraam even working during that time is not allowed.

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O ye who believe! When the call is proclaimed to prayer on Friday (the Day of Assembly), hasten earnestly to the Remembrance of Allah, and leave off business (and traffic): That is best for you if ye but knew!


And when the Prayer is finished, then may ye disperse through the land, and seek of the Bounty of Allah: and celebrate the Praises of Allah often (and without stint): that ye may prosper.


But when they see some bargain or some amusement, they disperse headlong to it, and leave thee standing. Say: "The (blessing) from the Presence of Allah is better than any amusement or bargain! and Allah is the Best to provide (for all needs)."

#4 UndercoverBrother

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 10:00 PM

Video footage of people walking to Imam Ali Mosque, the holiest Shi'ite shrine in Najaf for the friday prayer:

MashAllah look at the way people close all the markest and flock to the Imam Ali (as) mosque to pray Jumah.

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 10:45 PM

Most of the marajey today consider Juma prayer as "Sunnat-e-Mawkida" while a few ulema today and majority ulema in the past (including Mulla Majlisi) consider Juma prayer to be "wajib"...

#6 UndercoverBrother

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Posted 28 December 2007 - 10:50 PM

Most of the marajey today consider Juma prayer as "Sunnat-e-Mawkida" while a few ulema today and majority ulema in the past (including Mulla Majlisi) consider Juma prayer to be "wajib"...


Wow do we have a concept of 'Sunnah-e-Mawkidha' in the Jarafi Madhab because I know that the Hanafi madhab have alot of Sunna mawkidah acts and believe that to be very close to a wajib but not a wajib.

Anyway brother do you have any resources or reference to the earlier ulema considering Jumah wajib like Allamah Majlisi a fatwa or name of book would be very helpfull.

#7 UndercoverBrother

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 02:32 PM

Is it possible to pray Jumah salah or any salah behind a sunni molvi or in a congregation full of Sunni, this is a very important question because sometimes I am unable to physically attend the Shia mosque because Im too far at Uni to go ther and come back within the hour or at the campus where the only jamaah is done by Sunni.

#8 UndercoverBrother

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:51 PM

^^^what if you just their to pray but not for the khutbah

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:58 PM

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^^^what if you just their to pray but not for the khutbah


The khutbah is part of the salatul jum3a. Without the khutba, it's incomplete.

As for praying jummah behind Sunnis, it depends on the khutbah, at times sunni leaders will praise the enemies of Ahlul Bait as.gif, and in this case since the khutbah is invalid the namaaz is as well.


I've seen the verdicts of a few maraje and they all have the requirement of the leader of congregational prayers to be a Shia Ithna Asheri, so I don't think the khutbah alone would determine the validity of the prayers.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 06:46 AM

Most of the marajey today consider Juma prayer as "Sunnat-e-Mawkida" while a few ulema today and majority ulema in the past (including Mulla Majlisi) consider Juma prayer to be "wajib"...


Is there any truth to this or any reference please.

Also I found this on the Sistani site:

Question: Can one say one’s congregational prayer behind a Sunni Imam with the intention of Jama'at (congregation)? And should one recite al-hamd on his own?

Answer: It is permissible to offer prayer in their congregational prayer. However, it is obligatory upon you to recite al-Hamd and Sura-e Tawhid yourself – be the recitation in low voice though.

http://www.sistani.o...n...38&hl=sunni

Question: I am 19 years old and a convert to Islam of five months. My question is, being a practitioner of Twelver Jaf'ari Islam is it permissible for me to pray behind a Sunni Imam for Salaatul-Jummah and for regular congregational prayers, and is it required to prostrate on Turbah inside a mosque?

Answer: Taking part in Friday and congregational prayers of the Ahl-e Sunnat is permissible in areas where Taqiyah (dissimulation) is required. If you are not going to face a problem, you should, as far as possible, prostrate on a stone or anything upon which Sajda (prostration) is permissible. Prostration on carpets in the case of Taqiyah or out of necessity is permissible and there would be no objection in it. But if you are not offering your prayers with them out of Taqiyah it is not necessary to attend their congregational prayers and you can offer your prayers separately.

http://www.sistani.o...n...38&hl=sunni

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 05:23 PM

Most of the marajey today consider Juma prayer as "Sunnat-e-Mawkida" while a few ulema today and majority ulema in the past (including Mulla Majlisi) consider Juma prayer to be "wajib"...



So is there any reference to this and did any Marja or do any marjae consider it Wajib today.

#12 molaayi_from_lahore

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 06:52 AM

According to majority, juma prayer is wajib instead of Zohr prayer. If one offers juma prayer then zohr is mustahab for him and not wajib.



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