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#1 syedizhar

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:39 AM

I want to know the proof of Matam from the Quran and Hadith? is anyone there to help me out?
I want to give the answers to Sunni
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#2 wazz

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:49 AM

Good piece of info:

http://groups.msn.co...483424599764731

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:57 AM

Good piece of info:

http://groups.msn.co...483424599764731



Thanks for the refrence, i read it, but i need all the stuff in roman urdu or urdu.. hope you will understand.. i need more proof from Quran

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 07:42 AM

Brother you are asking proof from Quran as if the Lord himself had prescribed the act of Matam as Wajib.

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:28 PM

I want to know the proof of Matam from the Quran and Hadith? is anyone there to help me out?
I want to give the answers to Sunni
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yes sunnis do think that Matam is haram and its very hard to make them understand!

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 03:01 PM

I want to know the proof of Matam from the Quran and Hadith? is anyone there to help me out?
I want to give the answers to Sunni
Please Describe me in Detail


I know from their own books that it was the Sunnah of Adam to "beat his knees until the bone showed". Also, Imam Ali did it after the battle against Ayesha. ALSO, the Prophet did it.

http://www.answering...ri/en/chap9.php

If you read that, it proves the halal nature of Zanjeer matam as well as normal matam. Many Sunnis won't accept your arguments though, they have a different Tafsir for the Qur'an, and different interpretations of the hadeeths :angel:

#7 Qamar Abbas

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 12:41 PM

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matam ka topic shoro hota hai muwaddat say..! jisay kisi say muwaddat hoo jaate hai tou us ki khushi may khush hoo jata hai aur us kay gum may girya karta hai apnay app ko maarta hai..!
aur muwaddat mujh say nahi Quran say pochoo..! Surah Shaura!
Kah doo hum tum say koi ajur nahi chahtay sewaii is kay kay meray ahleybait say muhabbat karo..!
Surah Younus..!
Yonus a.s ka aik bayta khoo gaya thaa itnaa girya kya kay ankhay safaid hoo gaye..! halakay ilm e nabowat say jantay thay kay bayta zinda hai..!

waha baap baytay ki muhabbat thee..! yaha ahleybait say muhabbat hai jis ka hukm Allah dey raha hai..!

Sunnis ki authentic books may mojood hai..!
Kay owais e Karnee nay apnay daat ko tour deya tha muhabbat e Rasool may..!

inhee ki books may mojood hai kay Rasool ka chacha per ronay wala koi nahi thaa tou khud rasool un ki mayat per aye thay aur girya kya matam kya..!

dosre baat Quran kisi ka act bata ta hai tou do batay hotee hai ya us act ki future may muzammat hotee hai ya baad may muzammat nahi hotee..!
agar muzammat na hoo woh nasikh hota hai aur usay biddat nahi kaha jata aur agar muzammat ho jaye tou woh mansookh hoo jata hai means islam may haram hai aur Allah nay karnay say mana kya hai..!
Now C
Surah zaryaat 28 till 30
Ibrahim a.s ki bewi (sarah) chilaate hui ayee aur sir peeta aur kahnay lage may burhiya hoo aur banjh hoo mujhay aullad ki khush khabrii kaisay ?

ab is kay baad poray Quran may Ibrahim a.s ki bewi sara kay is sir peetnay ko mansookh nahi kya gaya aur na is ki muzammat hui means yay biddat nahi ho sakta..!

Rasool jo kah dey woh sunnat jo kar dey woh sunnat jis cheez ka mana kar dey woh karna haram aur jis cheez ka mana na karay woh jaiz..! aisa hai ya nahi ? ab may saray Sunnis aur anti Shias ko challenge kar raha hoo kay
RASOOL SA.W.W NAY KAB KAHA AUR KIS KO MATAM SAY ROKAA AGAR NAHI ROOKA TOU YAY JAIZ HAI..HARAM NAHI

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 12:43 PM

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request from all please donot missquote these references or use these references in favour of zanjeer zani or Qama zani
we shld have to see our mujtahdeen in these issues.

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Posted 28 October 2007 - 01:30 PM

I want to know the proof of Matam from the Quran and Hadith? is anyone there to help me out?
I want to give the answers to Sunni
Please Describe me in Detail



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