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#1 de Valtévieux

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:28 AM

For someone who knows, what is it like to live in Iran compared to the west? Any differences? For example, in the United States, the government can't just arrest me for no reason. If they did, there would be a big media scandal because we are bound by our constitutional rights. Do you have rights the same in Iran? What is health care like? Is television censored? Can you speak out against the government? Is there obscene media as in the west? Rascism?

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:11 PM

For someone who knows, what is it like to live in Iran compared to the west? Any differences? For example, in the United States, the government can't just arrest me for no reason. If they did, there would be a big media scandal because we are bound by our constitutional rights. Do you have rights the same in Iran? What is health care like? Is television censored? Can you speak out against the government? Is there obscene media as in the west? Rascism?


What no replies? I am shocked absolutely shocked! I guess the members of this website who live in Iran, all zero of them, have broken fingers.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:16 PM

For someone who knows, what is it like to live in Iran compared to the west? Any differences? For example, in the United States, the government can't just arrest me for no reason. If they did, there would be a big media scandal because we are bound by our constitutional rights. Do you have rights the same in Iran? What is health care like? Is television censored? Can you speak out against the government? Is there obscene media as in the west? Rascism?


Yes the television is restricted as well as the internet however the citizens of the country can get access to satelite TV as well as Cable if they wish.

Many do speak out against the government there has been numerous examples in the past and there will be numerous examples in the future. If by obscene media you are referring to sex and nudity then yes it is censored.

What no replies? I am shocked absolutely shocked! I guess the members of this website who live in Iran, all zero of them, have broken fingers.


Or maybe they were not active when the OP made this thread. Your biasness and hatred shines like a scorching sun on a hot summer day!

Edited by A follower, 09 July 2007 - 01:18 PM.


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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:16 PM

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:18 PM

In Iran you experience racism like hell. Not all of them are racist but far too many. They are eloquent though. They want to be the best in the world. That's what you hear on the streets. They say we have achieved this and that and consider themselves as Aryan, you know the German Aryan...
And they love Americans and Europeans a lot more than Arabs and other Asians, of course not all of them but many.
That's the racist issue, I don't know more about them.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:34 PM

Yes the television is restricted as well as the internet however the citizens of the country can get access to satelite TV as well as Cable if they wish.

Many do speak out against the government there has been numerous examples in the past and there will be numerous examples in the future. If by obscene media you are referring to sex and nudity then yes it is censored.
Or maybe they were not active when the OP made this thread. Your biasness and hatred shines like a scorching sun on a hot summer day!


'Or maybe they were not active when the OP made this thread. Your biasness and hatred shines like a scorching sun on a hot summer day!"

I do not believe there are any residents of Iran who are members of this web site. I do not hate Iran but I have no admiration for its gov't or leaders. Facism, censorship of the press, book banning etc etc are so passe.

Could access to Shiachat be hampered in so way by Iran's rulers?


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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:56 PM

I recently read the following piece from BBC news about a British reporter who lived in Iran for three years. The focus is more on governments then and now, but it does deal with the topic of Iran viewed through a Westerner's eyes:

http://news.bbc.co.u...ent/6277172.stm

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:06 PM

I do not believe there are any residents of Iran who are members of this web site. I do not hate Iran but I have no admiration for its gov't or leaders. Facism, censorship of the press, book banning etc etc are so passe.

Could access to Shiachat be hampered in so way by Iran's rulers?


That shows your ignorance on the issue. I go to Iran every summer and yet am able to post and access SC from Iran :huh: The special guests on the forum post their replies to the questions by accessing SC from Iran :huh: More to that have you been to Iran to check whether SC is avaliable or not? If not then I suggest you take a trip down there before opening your mouth!

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:14 PM

That shows your ignorance on the issue. I go to Iran every summer and yet am able to post and access SC from Iran :huh: The special guests on the forum post their replies to the questions by accessing SC from Iran :huh: More to that have you been to Iran to check whether SC is avaliable or not? If not then I suggest you take a trip down there before opening your mouth!


Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Iran on Shiachat.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:37 PM

Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Iran on Shiachat.

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Maybe the majority dont speak english??? :lol:

besides there are only a few active members on shiachat,with the majority from US,UK,CANADA where internet is easily available

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 02:38 PM

Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Iran on Shiachat.


Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Czech Republic, Solvakia, Austria etc on SC.

There are people on this forum who have participated from Iran in the past. Whatever their numbers maybe but that does not change the fact that there are users from Iran. Maybe people in that country prefer to doing something alternative than to browse SC. You cannot just assume that it is blocked with hard proof!

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:19 AM

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How is the criminal system compared to the western countries? For example, if I get caught in California with a half-eighth of maryjane I'll be fined $25 and if I get caught a second time I might get a few months of jail time, only a slap on the wrist. Now what would be the punishment in Iran?

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 11:24 PM

For someone who knows, what is it like to live in Iran compared to the west? Any differences? For example, in the United States, the government can't just arrest me for no reason. If they did, there would be a big media scandal because we are bound by our constitutional rights. Do you have rights the same in Iran? What is health care like? Is television censored? Can you speak out against the government? Is there obscene media as in the west? Rascism?

You can get detained in the U.S without actually being convicted of anything. Look at some of the detainees in Guantanamo. Many of them are held without any charges being filed against them. They are denied a lawyer, a trial, adequate access to their family members etc.

Example? Jose Padilla.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 01:56 AM

Ziyaraat yes. But wouldn't want to live in Iran, ever. Iraq, yes.

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 02:02 PM

For someone who knows, what is it like to live in Iran compared to the west? Any differences? For example, in the United States, the government can't just arrest me for no reason. If they did, there would be a big media scandal because we are bound by our constitutional rights. Do you have rights the same in Iran?


What you're saying about the U.S. is correct - on paper. In reality, The "constitutional rights" have been applied arbitrarily throughout U.S. history, regarding groups that are demonized by the U.S. administrations (and consequently media etc), whether that be hispanics, afro-americans, communists or muslims. Same goes for Iran.

What is health care like?


Decent up to a certain level. Advanced procedures and treatments are sometimes not available, or very costly. Insurance covers only part of the costs.

Is television censored?


The only permitted broadcaster is Islamic Republic of Iran Broadcasting (IRIB) Corporation, which is an organization under the supervision of the "Supreme" Leader. Hence, there is no censorship since the state has broadcast monopoly. Satellite dishes are illegal, but common.

Can you speak out against the government?


The media is the most unrestricted in West Asia (minus Israel). There are, however, certain taboos. Questioning the religious personalities (i.e. the Mullahs) on top is not tolerated. Discussion about the clerical regime's raison d'etre, neither. Notice that the religious personalities do not include the government (the administrative branch), parliament or the secular political leadership.

Is there obscene media as in the west?


To a much lesser degree.

Rascism?


Prejudices exist within the country about ethnic groups (between all ethnic groups), cities and foreign citizens (mainly Iraqis and Afghans) residing inside the country. No outright "racism" (since the issue of race is not the point of criticism, but rather the social and cultural behaviour).

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 10:02 PM

U.S.A :- "Do as we say, not as we do"

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:23 PM

You can get detained in the U.S without actually being convicted of anything. Look at some of the detainees in Guantanamo. Many of them are held without any charges being filed against them. They are denied a lawyer, a trial, adequate access to their family members etc.

Example? Jose Padilla.


Jose Padilla has been held in Guantanamo.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:26 PM

Maybe the majority dont speak english??? :lol:

besides there are only a few active members on shiachat,with the majority from US,UK,CANADA where internet is easily available


A very weak reply.

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Posted 12 July 2007 - 03:30 PM

Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Czech Republic, Solvakia, Austria etc on SC.

There are people on this forum who have participated from Iran in the past. Whatever their numbers maybe but that does not change the fact that there are users from Iran. Maybe people in that country prefer to doing something alternative than to browse SC. You cannot just assume that it is blocked with hard proof!


"Maybe people in that country prefer to doing something alternative than to browse SC."

I would think that some of the 20% unemployed would have the time.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 06:15 PM

I would think that some of the 20% unemployed would have the time.


Or maybe those 20% unemployed would spend time looking for employment. Think of the alternative too.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:50 AM

When I was in Iran two years ago the Internet was always very slow, very crowded (dial-up connections.... at certain hours there was just no way to enter the Web) and relatively expensive. Not the ideal portal for a bit of surfing around on SC.

Plus of course the language issue. I have met very few, even among the youngsters, who spoke English well enough to discuss along here.

From my experience: the less foreigners in a country (or even a region- most neonazis in my country are from regions with hardly any foreigners-it's the unknown that is the most scary. I remember being in the Rotterdam subway with a Hungarian friend, the type of country people get away from rather than immigrate-her open distrust towards anyone dark-colored was shocking to me, but it was because it was a whole new situation to her), the more vehement racism is. In Iran you'll find quite some Afghans, a good deal of Arabs, but anyone with non-Middle Eastern looks stands out immediately and is considered a curiosity. So I think racism is there to an extent similar to other countries with a limited experience with other ethnicities.

BTW, even state TV shows many dubbed Hollywood films too (like LOTR part I-III on consecutive days) albeit with the deletion of explicit scenes.

And as for health care, I'm not very impressed, but that has to do with a cultural difference too. You will always get many pills, seriously, a 6-year-old received no less than FIVE types of pills, powders and potions for a simple cold. But the event that shocked me most was when I was prescibed a kind of eye drops which, an opthalmologist at home told me later, might have made me blind if I had taken them according to prescription, especially in combination with the (BS) diagnosis he gave me. In Iran you can visit a doctor like you go buy a piece of soap around here. You just drop by, pay, and see a private"specialist" in an office somewhere down the street. I wonder what quality checks there are.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 11:10 AM

I'd rather be in Tehran than Karachi or Baghdad. At least most of Iran is safe from terrorist attacks.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 02:51 PM

"Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Iran on Shiachat."

Satban, you have no evidence to prove your claim. don't be silly. go to Iran and log onto shiachat and when you come back let us know what happened.

i got access to shiachat a ton of times while in Iran and so did many people i'm familiar with. if you can't go to Iran you can ask someone from paltalk or an Iranian blogger to go to shiachat.com. there are different theories as to why iranians don't log onto shiachat, one is they may not be intereted in shiachat and another is that NOBODY talks english. also many youth are not interested in Islam because they get it anywhere and schooling has islam incorporated in it.

the bottom line is do not make a claim without proof,be logical.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 03:23 PM

"Please explain the conspicuous lack of participation by residents in Iran on Shiachat."

Satban, you have no evidence to prove your claim. don't be silly. go to Iran and log onto shiachat and when you come back let us know what happened.

i got access to shiachat a ton of times while in Iran and so did many people i'm familiar with. if you can't go to Iran you can ask someone from paltalk or an Iranian blogger to go to shiachat.com. there are different theories as to why iranians don't log onto shiachat, one is they may not be intereted in shiachat and another is that NOBODY talks english. also many youth are not interested in Islam because they get it anywhere and schooling has islam incorporated in it.

the bottom line is do not make a claim without proof,be logical.


What was my claim?

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 09:51 PM

Jose Padilla has been held in Guantanamo.

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Yes, that is what i said.



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