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Mathematical Relation Between Prophet Mohammed & Hazrat Ali


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#1 marzooq

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:40 AM

(salam)


Birth DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 17th Rabi-ul-Awaal
Birth MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 3rd [Rabi-ul-Awaal is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar]

17+3 = 20 -----> A

Martyr DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 28 Safar
Martyr MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 2nd [Safar is 2nd month of Islamic Calendar]

28+2= 30 -----> B

A+B = 20+30 = 50 -----> C


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Birth DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 13th Rajab
Birth MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 7th [Rajab is 7th month of Islamic Calendar]

13+7 = 20 -----> D

Martyr DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 21st Ramazan
Martyr MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 9th [Ramazan is 9th month of Islamic Calendar]
21+9= 30 -----> E

D+E = 20+30 = 50 -----> F

NOT AMAZING :)

A=D
B=E &
C=F

Wasalam,
Hassan.

Edited by marzooq, 24 March 2007 - 06:38 PM.


#2 Noose

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Posted 27 January 2007 - 05:51 AM

NOT AMAZING.

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Posted 28 January 2007 - 02:46 PM

(salam)
Birth DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 17th Rabi-ul-Awaal
Birth MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 3rd [Rabi-ul-Awaal is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar]

17+3 = 20 -----> A

Martyr DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 28 Safar
Martyr MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 2nd [Safar is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar]

28+2= 30 -----> B

A+B = 20+30 = 50 -----> C
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Birth DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 13th Rajab
Birth MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 7th [Rajab is 7th month of Islamic Calendar]

13+7 = 20 -----> D

Martyr DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 21st Ramazan
Martyr MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 9th [Ramazan is 9th month of Islamic Calendar]
21+9= 30 -----> E

D+E = 20+30 = 50 -----> F

NOT AMAZING :)

A=D
B=E &
E=F

Wasalam,
Hassan.


ur observations and knowledge is limited
first
Birth DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 12th Rabi-ul-Awaal

more over Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was not martyred
and so on

#4 abbas_q

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:21 AM

ur observations and knowledge is limited
first
Birth DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 12th Rabi-ul-Awaal

more over Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) was not martyred
and so on


Salamun Alaikum,
The mathematical calculation is incorrect because the exact date of Prophets birth is unknown as written in the book "tarrekh-e-Islam" History of Islam. There is a dispute between the dates and even the dispute that none of the dates given are true. There is also a dispute between shia and sunni dates. So your calculation is incorrect unless the date of his birth is confirmed.
Now as mr ali hassan has written that prophet was not martyred then it is also wrong.
Even a common muslim dies having a firm belief is a martyr. Then if you are saying that prophet was not a martyr then you are poiting on the belief of prophet. Moreover shia belief is also that and it is a "qawi" belief that Prophet death was a conspiracy and he was slow poisoned. and even according to a common definition of Martyr i.e. whoever is killed in the way of God is a martyr so in that context also he is a martyr. THE GREATEST MARTYR OF ALL.
So as you know it is the shia belief that none of our masooms except the 12th imam has died naturally not even prophet.

#5 IloveImamHussain

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 01:52 AM

The mathematical calculation is incorrect because the exact date of Prophets birth is unknown as written in the book "tarrekh-e-Islam" History of Islam.


Regardless of the dispute in dates, the calculation is correct based on the assumption made.

the prophet was not martyred then it is also wrong.


The calculations are independent of the nature of the Prophet's death.

Safar is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar

You mean second month, not third.

E=F


E is not equal to F

#6 deathpasser

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 02:46 AM

The exact date of the birth of Ali is not known with any degree of certainty. According to traditions, Ali was born on the thirteenth of "Rajab" in the 28th year of the Elephant Era. The Elephant Era according to the annals of Arabia commenced when Abraha the Christian Viceroy of Yemen invaded Makkah with the intention of destroying the Kaaba, and shifting the center of pilgrimage to Yemen. The invasion failed and the Christian army had to beat a retreat without achieving its object. That marked the retreat of Christianity from the heartland of Arabia and paved the way for the rise of Islam. The Holy Prophet of Islam was born in the Year of the Elephant. According to scholars the Year of the Elephant corresponds to the year 571 of the Christian era. On this basis, the year of the birth of Ali would have to be placed around 599 or 600 C.E. Anyhow Ali was at the junction of the two centuries, the sixth and the seventh.

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#7 Nooreengirl

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 09:41 PM

There is a Mathematical Miracle in the Qur'an. I'm sure you would be interested and very amazed if you knew about it.

#8 Yousif

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 10:35 PM

salam

i know about it , ive read about it and its hypocrisy you believe in it , when it comes from a fallible and is deduced according to the speculation of a fallible man , yet refuse other fallible mens extracted information

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 01:18 AM

The so-called mathematical "miracle" of Rashad Kalifa requires you to believe in tahrif (that 2 verses were inserted into the Qur'an which don't belong). Plus, the pioneer of this so-called miracle called himself a prophet. That's two counts of heresy, not to mention the man pleaded no contest to charges of rape.

#10 IloveImamHussain

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 02:26 AM

There is a Mathematical Miracle in the Qur'an. I'm sure you would be interested and very amazed if you knew about it.

Tell us about it.

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Posted 30 January 2007 - 08:02 AM

(salam)
Birth DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 17th Rabi-ul-Awaal
Birth MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 3rd [Rabi-ul-Awaal is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar]

17+3 = 20 -----> A

Martyr DATE of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 28 Safar
Martyr MONTH of Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) = 2nd [Safar is 3rd month of Islamic Calendar]

28+2= 30 -----> B

A+B = 20+30 = 50 -----> C
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Birth DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 13th Rajab
Birth MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 7th [Rajab is 7th month of Islamic Calendar]

13+7 = 20 -----> D

Martyr DATE of Hazrat Ali (as) = 21st Ramazan
Martyr MONTH of Hazrat Ali (as) = 9th [Ramazan is 9th month of Islamic Calendar]
21+9= 30 -----> E

D+E = 20+30 = 50 -----> F

NOT AMAZING :)

A=D
B=E &
E=F

Wasalam,
Hassan.


very interesting brother.
I belive you.
According to my AQEEDA the birthdate of PROPHET wasnt 12 Rabi-ul-Awaal, its 17 Rabi-ul-Awaal.

#12 marzooq

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Posted 24 March 2007 - 06:37 PM

(salam)

Made correction in 1st post of this thread: C=F and not E=F. Another correction is Safar is 2nd month of Islamic Calendar and NOT 3rd. Thanks to IloveImamHussain for highlighting.

Birth and Martyr date (as I had used in calculations) of Prophet Muhammed (pbuh) AND Hazrat Ali (as) are widely accepted in Shia community. However, as per Sunni believe, Prophet (pbuh) was not martyr and born/died on same date i.e 12th Rabi-ul-Awaal.

Wasalam,
Marzooq.



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