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Hazrat Ali's Sword Zulfiqaar..

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as far as i know Prophet Muhammed (s)....gave it to Imam Ali a.s

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Hazrat Ali's a.s Sword came from Allah it only makes sence after the passing of Hazrat Ali a.s it goes back to Allah

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Some people here gave the correct info but still so much confusion.

The sword did come from heaven Jibraeel brought it to Prophet who gave it to Imam Ali in the Uhad. The sword is with Imam Zamana and he will bring it with him soon (inshallah). Jibraeel recited the verse La Fata Illa Ali la Saif il zulfiqar when he brougth it from heaven.

"And We sent down iron in which there lies great force and which has many uses for mankind.... (Surat al-Hadid: 25)

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these are just pictures found online (no verified authenticity)

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None of those swords look like Zulfiqar. :)

Zulfiqar has two distinct points at its tip.

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(salam)

From what I have heard, it was a sword brought from heaven by Hazrat Jibraeel after nine of Imam Ali’s (as) swords were broken in the battle of Ohud. It had two blades and was said to be magical in the sense that it would not allow itself to be used to kill an innocent person, in combination ofcourse with Imam Ali's (as) wisdom that could distinguish between those who were and weren't innocent (even 40 generations down the line).

Hope that helps,

Wasalam

I have a problem with this theory that imam ali did not kill those "innocent people" in battle. People are trying to kill imam ali... i mean i am sure that they would have gotten paid extra if they could have killed Imam ali... he was the biggest target after the prophet. Maybe in a few instances he went after certain individuals rather than others... but i dont agree that he did it with every person he saw in the battle field like many people think.

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(bismillah)

(salam)

the sword "zul fiqar" according to hadeeths was brought down, and after Imam Ali's (a.s.) sword broke, the prophet (s.a.w.w.) gave it to Imam Ali (a.s.)

zu in arabic means "the one that has"

fiqar means separated (not literal translation)...

it is reported that it is called zul fiqar because Imam Ali (a.s.) has only hit people that are losers in life and in the hereafter "iftaqara aldunia wal akhera"

(see that fiqar's root is similar to the root of the verb iftaqara)

it is really suspected that any of the swords in the pictures above refer to the real sword, as it is reported to have the words "la fata illa Ali, wala saifa illa zul fiqar" - there is no "warrior" like Ali, nor a sword like zul fiqar (not 100% accurate translation)

it is reported that Imam Hassan (a.s.) carried it over from his father, then Imam Hussein (a.s.) fought in Karbala using it..

it is reported that Imam Mahdi (ajtf) has it and will fight kaffirs using it... (and it makes more sense that the Ahlul Beit (a.s.) has it rather than some islamic museum in Turkey....

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it is reported that Imam Mahdi (ajtf) has it and will fight kaffirs using it...

kaffirs as in 'enemies of ahlbait and shias'

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Last night, I went to the library to find a quote I remembered about the origin of Dhu al-Fiqaar. I found it where I remembered: in Hishaam ibn al-Kalbi's Book of Idols (Kitaab al-A9naami) under the section on Manaatu. Al-Kalbii died in 206 AH (~822 CE) and was a scholar in al-Kuufah who, unusually for his time, specialised in history and stories of the pre-Islamic period. He was, however, attacked as a raafidi and 'merely' a historian, although al-Mas3uudii respected him highly. His grandfather and great-grandfathers fought for the Ahl al-Bayt at Siffin and in the "Battle of the Camel". Here is what he records:

The Quraysh as well as the rest of the Arabs continued to venerate Manaatu until the Apostle of God set out from Mdina in the eighth year of the Hijrah, the year in which God accorded him the victory. When he was at a distance of four or five nights from Medina, he dispatched Ali to destroy her. Ali demolisher her, took away all her [treasures] and carried them back to the Prophet. Among the treasures which Ali carried away were two swords that had been presented to her by al-Haarith ibn Abi Shamir al-Ghassaaniyy, King of al-Ghassaan. The one sword was called Mikhdham and the other Rasuub. They are the two swords of al-Haarith which 3alqamah mentions in one of his poems: [...] The Prophet gave these two swords to Ali. Dhu al-Fiqaar, the sword of Ali, was one of them.

It is also said that Ali found these two swords in [the temple] of al-Fals, the idol of the Tayyi', where the Prophet had sent him, and which he also destroyed.

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a sunni friend of mine,who is lover of imam ali (as) has got one of the shamsheers,used by imam ali (as),preserved by his ancestors over the decade.

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The Zulfiqar sword was send by Allah throught Hazrat Jibrael(a.s) and given to Prophet Muhammad PBUH to give it to Imam Ali (a.s)

The sword was being passed from 1 Imam to Another. From Ali (a.s) to Hassan (a.s) then Hussain (a.s) Then Zainul Abideen (a.s) and so on.

Currently this sword is with Imam Al Mahdi he will come back with the sword Zulfiqar which will end tyranny and opression from this world.

This is what i heard from Many people.

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None of those swords look like Zulfiqar. :)

Zulfiqar has two distinct points at its tip.

No it doesn't. That's just a common misconception of Shia laypeople. There is no evidence that this sword was BIFURCATED (had 2 points).

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I could have sworn the sword is with our last Imam?

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I'm pretty sure that dhul fiqar was taken by rasulullah (pbuh) as booty, and given to Imam Ali (as) during the battle of uhud, at which point a voice was heard saying "There is no sword except Dhul-Fiqar. There is no hero except Ali."

But this voice was not necessarily that of angel Jibril (as) who was conversing with rasulullah (pbuh) at that time tellling him how brave and loyal imam Ali (as) was.

TO which rasulullah (pbuh) said someting alng the lines of "he is from me and i am from him"

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I'm pretty sure that dhul fiqar was taken by rasulullah (pbuh) as booty,

source?

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source?

I'm pretty sure I read that in a book about rasulullah (pbuh) by Yasin T. al-Jibouri, though I must admit I can't seem to find the reference online (so I could be wrong), but a brother in post #8 talks about the same thing, so it is not an isolated account of it.

Just because may not have come form heaven doesn't mean it is isn't a blessed sword, the staff of Musa (as) didn't come from Allah, but Allah still allowed him to perform miracmes with it. So the fact the it was a sword that was used to defend the holy prophet (pbuh) and islam, when everyone else chose to run away should in its self make it a blessed sword. The spit of rasulullah (pbuh) was blessed with healing qualities, so we could also assume his swords had great qualities.

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it look very nice sword. but why did he no use a gun?? gun is more powerful and kill lots people fasterer.

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it look very nice sword. but why did he no use a gun?? gun is more powerful and kill lots people fasterer.

Are you for real or are you trying to delibrately insult the Commander of the Faithful (as)?

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(salam)

I could have sworn the sword is with our last Imam?

They are hadiths about the Sword of Ali (Dhulfiqar) being with Imam al Hujjah (aj).

A verse was reveled for this event. Imam Ali(as) broke his sword in the battle. The angel Jibrael (as) came down to the Prophet (saw) with the sword and the verse was recited.

The Holy Prophet (pbuh) also said “La Fata Ila Ali La Sayfa Ila Dhulfiqar”

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3- (مجلسي صحيح3/45 – بهبودي صحيح1/30)

مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ سَعِيدٍ عَنِ النَّضْرِ بْنِ سُوَيْدٍ عَنْ يَحْيَى الْحَلَبِيِّ عَنِ ابْنِ مُسْكَانَ عَنْ أَبِي بَصِيرٍ عَنْ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ قَالَ تَرَكَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) فِي الْمَتَاعِ سَيْفاً وَ دِرْعاً وَ عَنَزَةً وَ رَحْلًا وَ بَغْلَتَهُ الشَّهْبَاءَ فَوَرِثَ ذَلِكَ كُلَّهُ عَلِيُّ بْنُ أَبِي طَالِبٍ ( عليه السلام ) .

H 623, Ch. 38, h 3

Muhammad ibn Yahya has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from al-Husayn ibn Sa‘id from al-Nadr ibn Suwayd from Yahya al-Halabi from ibn Muskan from abu Basir from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s.) who has said the following. "Of the legacy that the Messenger of Allah left was a sword, a coat of arms, a spears, a saddle and a gray mule. Ali ibn abu Talib (a.s.)

inherited all of them."

5- (مجلسي صحيح ظاهرا ولكن في السند غرابه3/45 – بهبودي ضعيف)

أَحْمَدُ بْنُ مُحَمَّدٍ وَ مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ الْحَسَنِ عَنْ مُحَمَّدِ بْنِ عِيسَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ أَبِي عَبْدِ اللَّهِ عَنْ أَبِي الْحَسَنِ الرِّضَا ( عليه السلام ) قَالَ سَأَلْتُهُ عَنْ ذِي الْفَقَارِ سَيْفِ رَسُولِ اللَّهِ ( صلى الله عليه وآله ) مِنْ أَيْنَ هُوَ قَالَ هَبَطَ بِهِ جَبْرَئِيلُ ( عليه السلام ) مِنَ السَّمَاءِ وَ كَانَتْ حِلْيَتُهُ مِنْ فِضَّةٍ وَ هُوَ عِنْدِي .

H 625, Ch. 38, h 5

Ahmad ibn Muhammad and Muhammad ibn Yahya have narrated from Muhammad ibn al-Hassan from Muhammad ibn ‘Isa from Ahmad ibn abu ‘Abdallah who has said that he asked abu al-Hassan al-Rida (a.s.) about al-Dhulfaqar, the sword of the Messenger of Allah as to wherefrom it was. The Imam (a.s.) said, "Jibril came down with it from the heavens. It was decorated with gold and it is with me now."

Now as you can see the grading of these Ahadith from al Kafi are Saheeh so judging from the lineage of inheritance it currently is with the 12th Imam(as)

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