Jump to content
Sign in to follow this  
Redrum

Shia Shahada

Rate this topic

Recommended Posts

salaam

I'm trying to do a little research on the differences in the pronounciation of shahada between the shias and the sunnis - the background of the addition of the phrase about 'Ali (as), the phrase 'haya ala khayril amal' (proofs that it has been censored by Uthman) and lack of 'prayer is better than sleep' (proofs that it has been added by Uthman), the first time shia shahada has been recorded (as many claim that it was only introduced by the Safavids in Iran), etc.

Please post any relevant info - websites, articles, ahadith, opinions of scholars, past discussions on shiachat or anything else that you may have.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
salaam

I'm trying to do a little research on the differences in the pronounciation of shahada between the shias and the sunnis - the background of the addition of the phrase about 'Ali (as), the phrase 'haya ala khayril amal' (proofs that it has been censored by Uthman) and lack of 'prayer is better than sleep' (proofs that it has been added by Uthman), the first time shia shahada has been recorded (as many claim that it was only introduced by the Safavids in Iran), etc.

Please post any relevant info - websites, articles, ahadith, opinions of scholars, past discussions on shiachat or anything else that you may have.

Are you researching the Shi'a Shahadah in Adhan or as in becoming a Mu'min?

Here's a tradition from Imam Sadeq [as] in which he made a Syrian recite the Shahada testifying to the wilayat of the descendents of Prophet Muhammad :

The Syrian who was carefully listening to the detailed accounts given by the Imam [a] said to the Imam [a] at the end of the speech: "Whatever have you said is correct, and now I also have become a Muslim."

The Imam [a] said: "Say I have confessed to the faith. Before you were also Muslim but you followed only the mere and apparent rules and regulations of Islam regarding marriage and inheritance etc. It is now necessary to acquaint yourself with our holy family, as the reward and remuneration of God and the recompense in the other world is obtained only by following us and by accepting our leadership. And until this moment you were deprived of this blessing."

As the Syrian accepted the Imam's [a] speech and instructions he said: "I witness that only God is to be worshipped and Prophet Muhammad is the Prophet sent by God. Verily you are the guardian of the Prophet and his other rightful descendants."[33]

http://al-islam.org/hesham/16.htm

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Assalamu Alaikum,

I used to be a part of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jamaah(Sunni) and it is in the Sunni books that Umar ibn al-Khattab(not Uthman) added "Asalatu kayrun mina nawm"(prayer is better than sleep). I think ti is even in Sahih Bukhari, but Im not certain.

But it's true.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes it's true but it's not in Bukhari or Muslim, it's in Muwatta Imam Malik.

The biggest problem I face in my research is the origin of the addition of the kalima about Wilayat of Imam Ali (as) - we usually hear that this started being added as a reaction to the cursing of Imam Ali by the Umayyads, however I cannot find any references of this kalima being pronounced so early, all the books I have seen so far claim that the first occurence of this practice was under the Safavids of Iran.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Are you researching the Shi'a Shahadah in Adhan or as in becoming a Mu'min?

Here's a tradition from Imam Sadeq [as] in which he made a Syrian recite the Shahada testifying to the wilayat of the descendents of Prophet Muhammad :

The Syrian who was carefully listening to the detailed accounts given by the Imam [a] said to the Imam [a] at the end of the speech: "Whatever have you said is correct, and now I also have become a Muslim."

The Imam [a] said: "Say I have confessed to the faith. Before you were also Muslim but you followed only the mere and apparent rules and regulations of Islam regarding marriage and inheritance etc. It is now necessary to acquaint yourself with our holy family, as the reward and remuneration of God and the recompense in the other world is obtained only by following us and by accepting our leadership. And until this moment you were deprived of this blessing."

As the Syrian accepted the Imam's [a] speech and instructions he said: "I witness that only God is to be worshipped and Prophet Muhammad is the Prophet sent by God. Verily you are the guardian of the Prophet and his other rightful descendants."[33]

http://al-islam.org/hesham/16.htm

Thanks for sharing

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
salaam

I'm trying to do a little research on the differences in the pronounciation of shahada between the shias and the sunnis - the background of the addition of the phrase about 'Ali (as), the phrase 'haya ala khayril amal' (proofs that it has been censored by Uthman) and lack of 'prayer is better than sleep' (proofs that it has been added by Uthman), the first time shia shahada has been recorded (as many claim that it was only introduced by the Safavids in Iran), etc.

Please post any relevant info - websites, articles, ahadith, opinions of scholars, past discussions on shiachat or anything else that you may have.

Phrases about Ali (ie Ash'hadu anna Ali-an Waliyallah . . . ) are not the part of Adhan.

Our Adhan consists of the following 18 sentences:

Allahu Akbar ............................................................................ four times

(Allah is greater than any description)

Ash hadu an la ilaha illal lah .................................................... two times

(I testify that there is no god but Allah)

Ash hadu anna Muhammadan Rasu lul lah/ ............................. two times

(I testify that Muhammad is Allah's Messenger)

Hayya'alas Salah ..................................................................... two times

(Hasten to prayers)

Hayya'alal Falah ...................................................................... two times

(Hasten to deliverance)

Hayya'ala Khayril 'Amal ........................................................... two times

(Hasten to the best act)

Allahu Akbar ............................................................................ two times

(Allah is greater than any description)

La ilaha illal lah ........................................................................ two times

(There is no god but Allah)

(salam)

Edited by Murabit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

(salam)

There is no shia shahada. There is the shahadatayn for sunnis and shias. When you say it with the witnesses you become a muslim.

Ashhadu an la illaha ilallah wa ashhadu ana muhammadan rasool Allah

This is sufficient to become a muslim. A sunni who becomes a shia doesnt need to say anything, he only changes the beliefs in his heart, one of which is aliyun wali Allah. It is not necessary to say aliyun wali Allah in front of any witnesses.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Sign in to follow this  

  • Recent Posts on ShiaChat!

    • @eThErEaL Surely the Arabs possessed some virtues before the advent of Prophethood, but we shouldn't fool ourselves into believing that these virtues outstripped their many sins and vices. As Ja'far ibn Abu Talib capably summarized in his address to the King of Abyssinia,  “We were a people of Jahiliyyah, worshipping idols, eating the flesh of dead animals, committing abominations, neglecting our relatives, doing evil to our neighbours and the strong among us would oppress the weak…” Their actions are repudiated time and time again by the Qur'an. "And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it." [3:103] “And when the news of a female (child) is brought to any of them, his face becomes dark, and he is filled with inward grief! He hides himself from the people because of the evil of that whereof he has been informed. Shall he keep her with dishonour or bury her in the earth? Certainly, evil is their decision” [al-Nahl 16:58]   Now I don't mean to be racist towards the Arab race, and nor are the practices of the people of jahiliyyah reflective of most Arabs today. But it seems to me that it took the best of the 124,000 prophets to bring the Arabs of that time into line for a handful of years- before they rebelled against his teachings once more as soon as he passed away, all for the greed of power and authority.
    • As a historical source I think it is fair to use. We may not have rijal information on all of the chains; that's partly because our rijal books are mostly focused on hadith narrators of the second hijri century - companions of the mid to late Imams. Abu Mikhnaf himself was not close to the Imams, he was a descendant of a companion of Amir al-Mu'mineen (as), but he is relied upon by Waqidi, Tabari, Shaykh al-Mufid, and other Sunni and Shia historians. It's one of the earliest accounts of the event. He died (d. 157 AH) in the early part of Musa al-Kadhim's Imamate, and his chains to the event are very short. Since his text is about a public event, and Najashi called him a scholar of Kufa in his time, and since he was not criticized until much later Sunni scholars like Dhahabi, I feel that it is a good source. There are some discrepancies, and so it's not holy scripture, but I found it to be very useful when I first converted. Here is a good post on the topic: http://www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235023655-why-is-abu-mikhnaf-reliable/?do=findComment&comment=2716964  
    • I don't quite understand this.  Hypothetically, let's say one's father is against you getting married, so if you attempt to change your wali to a grandfather or an uncle who says yes to the marriage, will it still be illegitimate?  And there are some fathers who won't let them get married no matter what the reason. What then? 
    • 8305 How algorithms are determining just about everything. Zuckerberg's "Frankenstein Monster". The best part is the 5th and 6th paragraphs. https://www.buzzfeed.com/charliewarzel/mark-zuckerberg-cant-stop-you-from-reading-this-because-the?utm_term=.onyQAO1dz#.ooA0yYkor 
    • Alhamdulillah. Thank you for letting us know. 
×