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  1. Goswami

    Shia Vs Sunni debate on Quran

    Aima (as) used to answer their companions in accordance with their sapiential level. This Hadith is idoneous for laity. There are reports from Aima(As) where they have explained this issue by calling Qur'an a Mohdath. Therefore , the position of shia school is that it is a Mohdath. Qur'an itself encourages its readers to contemplate over it on sundry places. Nevertheless , I believe this issue was important and worthy of academic discussion. This is starkly germane to " Shirk " ; a term that is often blurted out by sunnis. Sunni standard stance of Quran being uncreated and eternal is shirk in its quintessence . It is because they believe in two eternal beings 1- Their Anthropomorphic God 2- Uncreated Quran. So , they do idolatry of two things.
  2. Goswami

    Shia Vs Sunni debate on Quran

    Majority doesn't believe it is a Mohdath , right ?
  3. I came across a debate between a shia brother and a sunni debater on Youtube. The topic was whether according to Sunnis Quran is uncreated and eternal or is it created. This is the link to the debate. Anyhow , what was fascinating is that the sunni debater completely denied the fact that majority of sunni scholars believed in the uncreatedness of Quran. I was further flabbergasted to see that the Sunni debater claimed that the standard position of tasanun in this case is that " Quran is a Mohdath". To prove his case he relied on a Shia Hadith. Now this is beyond my comprehension that how can a sunni prove the standard position of his school by using a shia hadith ? In my opinion Sunni debater here did a terrible job in defending his stance. This is what Ahmed Bin Hanbal says about those who believe that Quran is a Mohdath According to Ahmed Bin Hanbal any one who believes Quran is a Mohdath is kafir. ﻗﺎﻝ ﺍﺑﻦ ﻛﺜﻴﺮ ﻓﻲ ﺍﻟﺒﺪﺍﻳﺔ ﻭﺍﻟﻨﻬﺎﻳﺔ : ﻭﺭﻭﻯ ﺍﻟﺒﻴﻬﻘﻲ ﻣﻦ ﻃﺮﻳﻖ ﺍﺳﻤﺎﻋﻴﻞ ﺑﻦ ﻣﺤﻤﺪ ﺍﻟﺴﻠﻤﻲ ﻋﻦ ﺃﺣﻤﺪ ﺃﻧﻪ ﻗﺎﻝ : ﻣﻦ ﻗﺎﻝ ﺍﻟﻘﺮﺁﻥ ﻣﺤﺪﺙ ﻓﻬﻮ ﻛﺎﻓﺮ Nevertheless , I would love to hear the thoughts of sunni members of this forum and my shia brothers and sisters on this topic and on this debate. Majority of the sunni scholars I have met in person claim that Quran is uncreated and eternal. @Intellectual Resistance
  4. Lemme tell you something very interesting brother. Plethora of their scholars have destroyed the Ahadith which were against Sahabas i.e. which could expose them. That is why, sunni books have undergone massive fabrication. Read this whole series brother , it is a very interesting research done by a brother . So yes , you are right they can go to any level in defending the so called sahabas , just following the sunnah of their predecessors . https://zolfiqar.wordpress.com/2017/12/12/hiding-the-truth-in-bakrism-part-1/ https://zolfiqar.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/hiding-the-truth-in-bakrism-part-2/ https://zolfiqar.wordpress.com/2018/01/05/hiding-the-truth-in-bakrism-part-3/
  5. Great find brother but whenever we use this they simply reject it by saying that it is a secondary source.
  6. This is a very good point. This is exactly what the logic dictates. It is not abstruse to decipher that it could only have been Umar who uttered those words. Umar was the one who doubted the prophethood of Prophet (saw) as pointed out by brother "Power". Umar was also very harsh in his behavior. Amalgamating these two points , one can conclude that it could have been only him who had the audacity to accuse prophet (saw) of being delirious. This strengthens our point. Nevertheless , what is your thought on the point when sunni says that if prophet (saw) really meant to dictate/write something and if it was an order from Allah then it would have been tantamount to wahi , so how one can believe that umar was able to stop wahi being written ? If it was an order from Allah then no one on earth could have stopped prophet (saw) from writing down his will. What is your thought on this ? I would simply respond by saying that Prophet (saw) had already announced the appointment of Imam Ali (as) prior to this incident . The whole incident was Divinely orchestrated to expose Umar . Had prophet (saw) not announced it at Ghadeer then no power would have stopped him from writing that will . Is there something that can be added in the response ?
  7. 1- First Hadith doesn't contain the word Yahjur 2- Second Hadith says " THey accused prophet (saw) of being delirious " 3- THird says " Some said prophet (saw) was delirious " So , no where it is seen that it was Umar who said that. This is the point put forward by sunnis. They ask for evidence that it was umar who uttered those words
  8. Beautifully explained Akhi . Masha Allah
  9. They say there is no Hadith which says that it was Umar who called Prophet (saw) delirious. However, there are statements of sunni scholars confirming that it was umar who called prophet(saw) delirious. Sunnis simply reject the statements of their scholars at this point.
  10. What is our counterargument to this ?
  11. There has been recently a debate on the Calamity of Thursday between shias and sunnis. I would like to encourage my knowledgeable brothers and sisters to share their thoughts on this debate.
  12. Goswami

    shia vs salafi

    https://i[Edited Out]te.wordpress.com/2018/01/22/who-are-the-real-muhajirs/
  13. Goswami

    Some Questions from a Sunni brother

    Abu al-Azhar – Abd al-Razzaq – Ma’mar – al-Zuhri – Ubaydallah b. Abdallah – Ibn Abbas رَضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمَا who said: The Prophet صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ glanced at Ali and said: O Ali, you are a leader in the world, and a leader in the hereafter. Your friend is my friend, and my friend is the friend of Allah. Your enemy is my enemy, and my enemy is the enemy of Allah. Woe be upon the one who hates you after me [Mustadrak ala al-Sahihayn, al-Hakim grades it Sahih] The chain has no defects.
  14. Goswami

    Some Questions from a Sunni brother

    Sorry Brother but sunni version of Ghadir doesn't make sense to me. Why was umer congratulating Imam Ali (as) ? This does indicate that Prophet (saw) announced Imam Ali (as) as his successor else there was no point for umar in congratulating him. Furthermore , if we go by sunni version then it proves that sahaba were hypocrites and they were not the people one can wish to emulate. Qur'an has instructed its followers on numerous places that how a believer should be in conduction and Prophet (saw) during his entire life has taught the same thing by setting his character as an example even then we see that prophet (saw) had to remind sahaba that imam Ali (as) was their friend (as per sunni version) . Beside this , Prophet (saw) had always called Imam Ali (as) as his brother then why he would demote Ali(as) to his friend on Ghadeer? This doesn't make sense. Also according to Ibn Taymiyah majority of Sahaba and Tabieen used to hate Imam Ali (as) , this shatters sunni notion of friendly relations between Ahlul Bait (as) and Sahaba.
  15. Goswami

    Shias didn't show up for debate with Shemrani

    He just kept blowing his own trumpet throughout the video. There is nothing in the videos that is worthy of being responded to. Someone has rightly said " Knowledge humbles the great man and puffs up the little man" .
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