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  1. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Thanks Kirtc, I have to go now, but if God wills will watch the video later. Peace and God bless you
  2. The Aqsa Mosque

    Salam, So I've asked several times when the Aqsa Mosque was built, and who built it. After all, during Muhammad's lifetime, Muslims had not yet taken Jerusalem from the Gentile Christians. So, the "Mosque" he said he went to on a miraculous journey was either a church or other building, or had not been built at all. Since I have received no reply, I'd like to make a thread asking. Thanks. Peace and God bless you http://www.sacred-destinations.com/israel/jerusalem-al-aqsa-mosque
  3. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    When was the Aqsa mosque built? Who built it? The Muslim Arabs had not yet invaded Jerusalem during the lifetime of Muhammad, so Muslims could not have built the Aqsa mosque before that. Why do Muslims need 3 holy sites, especially when one of those holy sites is the only holy site for another religion, the first "Abrahamic" religion? I don't know. Both Catholics and Protestants however have come a long way in regards to caring for each other and people of other faiths, thank God. I know by the way that many Muslims are not currently ok with moving their mosque from the site where King Solomon's temple was. I know many Muslims don't have it in their hearts to allow Jewish people their only holy site. Muslims who do have it in their hearts to allow Jewish people their only holy site are very rare. Where do you think they should rebuild their temple? Just curious. Do you understand why the Jewish people who want to rebuild their temple want to do it in the same place King Solomon did, as well as the builders of the Temple in which Jesus Christ walked 2,000 years ago? Romans were the last group of people who conquered Jerusalem and destroyed a temple. They didn't destroy Solomon's Temple though; the Babylonians did. The Romans destroyed the second temple, the one Jesus walked in 2,000 years ago. So, it's no surprise that there are Roman fortresses in Jerusalem. Proof for this rock is where??? I don't think the Western Wall is the big deal here. The big deal here is where King Solomon built the first temple. Peace and God bless you
  4. Salam/Shalom/Peace Happy Hanukkah/Chanukah to anyone on Shiachat who celebrates this fascination 8 day celebration!!! For those who don't know much about Hanukkah (I didn't until I started studying the Bible more), Hanukkah = dedication. The second Temple had to be cleansed and rededicated because it had been defiled. This was before Jesus Christ came. The following website explains better: (I boldened some.) "In the second century BCE, the Holy Land was ruled by the Seleucids (Syrian-Greeks), who tried to force the people of Israel to accept Greek culture and beliefs instead of mitzvah observance and belief in G‑d. Against all odds, a small band of faithful Jews, led by Judah the Maccabee, defeated one of the mightiest armies on earth, drove the Greeks from the land, reclaimed the Holy Temple in Jerusalem and rededicated it to the service of G‑d." http://www.chabad.org/holidays/chanukah/article_cdo/aid/102911/jewish/What-Is-Hanukkah.htm Jesus Christ celebrated Hanukkah, which to me is really cool!!! "22 Then came the Festival of Dedication[b] at Jerusalem. It was winter, 23 and Jesus was in the temple courts walking in Solomon’s Colonnade." - John 10:22-23 (NIV) Sadly, due to antisemitism hatred in some Christian groups, not many Gentile Christians in the past understood that the "Festival of Dedication" = Hanukkah. Horribly, the past is riddled with bad Christians, disobedient to Jesus Christ, hurting, torturing, force converting, and oppressing Jewish people. However, recently more Christians are learning more about the foundations of Christianity, which is the Tanankh and the promises God gave to the Children of Israel, which of course includes the Messianic promises. Christ, after all, is not a last name; it's a title, the Anointed One/King. Gentile Christians are being encouraged by some Jewish people (both Messianic Jews and Jewish people who don't accept Jesus/Yeshua but who love Christians) to celebrate Hanukkah with them, which is really cool! The following is from a recent article that shows how more Gentile Christians are celebrating Hanukkah now: "To my surprise many of my friends (all Christian creatives in this particular group) celebrate BOTH Christmas and Hanukkah--and have their own menorahs!" https://www.jellytelly.com/blog/should-christians-celebrate-hanukkah Out of curiosity, are there any Muslims on Shiachat who celebrate Hanukkah too? Peace and God bless you
  5. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Kirtc, Sadly, there are many people who hate other groups of people and negatively generalize them. This reminds me for example how some people in the USA hate on and negatively generalize Latinos. Jewish people, like every other group of people, are not immune to being hated on and negatively generalized. The antichrist is coming regardless of what anybody or any nation does, because God gave John (a Jewish follower of Jesus who walked in the second Temple along with Jesus) prophesies concerning the antichist/beast; (I boldened some.) 3 One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. 4 People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?” 5 The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.[b] - Revelations 13:3-8 (NIV) So, whether or not the third temple is built, the antichrist will come, cause God always tells the truth. Christian scholars disagree over whether the temple will be built or not before the antichrist comes. Kirtc, it's not an issue of being anti a religion. The thing is, what God says will happen, will happen. The reason we know of the antichrist coming is because God told Apostle John who wrote it down for posterity. The reason as well that we know Jesus Christ (Yeshua HaMashiach) is returning is because God told Jesus' apostles, including John and Matthew, to write down God's promises. While of course the promise that the antirchrist/beast is coming is sad and bad news, the promise that Jesus Christ returns is good news!!! Interestingly, God allows both bad and good to happen. While it's understandable to lament the bad (including natural disasters, God allowing horrible wars, disease, etc.) it is important to keep in mind the big picture, which includes the good (God's promises of eternal life without pain/disease/war, an the return of Jesus Christ to rule). While sadly there are people around the world, including the English, Arabs, Persians/Iranians, Jews, Germans, Americans of different ancestries, etc doing bad, there are also people of every ethnicity who do good too. Peace and God bless you
  6. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Kirtc, Who built the aqsa mosque, and when? Why can't Muslim people kindly move their aqsa mosque to a different location? That would be an impressive feat that would instill admiration around the world, because not just anybody would or could do that. Most people couldn't and wouldn't do that. It would take a very high intellect and superior engineering skills to move the Aqsa mosque. If Muslims around the world decided to show Non-Muslims they (Muslims) aren't violent people but rather can offer an olive branch to Jewish people by allowing them to rebuild King Solomon's Temple, that would be amazing. It would be a miracle, hmm? Of course Jewish people who believe in rebuilding the Temple want to rebuild it on the Temple Mount, the site where the Temple in which Jesus Christ walked was around 2,000 years ago and was where King Solomon built the first temple. Of course they would want the 3rd temple to be where the first and second temples were located. Some Jewish people reject Jesus and are awaiting another person to be their Messiah, but some Jewish people accept Jesus as the Messiah. (Jesus' followers were originally all Jewish.) Regardless, Jesus Christ prophesies the following, which shows Jerusalem will see him again: 37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. 38 Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’[Psalm 118:26]” - Matthew 23:37-39 (NIV) Interestingly, while some Jewish people are quick to deny the Jewishness of Jews who accept Jesus as the Messiah, more and more Jewish people are coming to realize that Yeshua (Jesus) is indeed the Mashiach. Personally, I contribute this to the following factors: 1. God is working in the hearts of Jewish people around the world, bringing them to Yeshua (Jesus). 2. More and more Gentile Christians are learning to love Jewish people, regardless of if they accept Jesus or not. Jewish people are becoming more accepted into mainstream communities, thanks to growth in mutual understanding, respect, and friendships. 3. Freedom of religion is paramount. Traditional religion is no longer a must to keep, whether one be born in a Christian or Jewish family. Each individual has the right to make his or her own decisions concerning beliefs. 4. More and more Christians are understanding that the Tanakh is the foundation/roots of Christianity and that Jesus Christ (Yeahua Ha Mashiach) is Jewish. 5. Christianity is no longer ruled by any group that forces obedience or torture/death, thank God!!! 6. Many Jewish people and many Gentile Christians are finding common ground. 7. Jewish followers of Jesus Christ are zealously telling their Jewish friends and family about how they are still Jewish. Believing in a Jew (Jesus Christ) to be the Jewish Messiah does not take away their Jewishness in the least. Peace and God bless you
  7. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Abu Hadi, Could you please give quotes from Iran's leadership that specifically affirm what you stated above? Thanks. Out of curiosity, what is your opinion of this article? I found it very interesting, especially this quote: "It is true that, at different times, and in different ways, Persia has been a friend of the Jews. Cyrus the Great (the Iranian king mentioned by Zarif in the interview) restored the Jews to their homeland in the Land of Israel after their Babylonian exile. President Harry Truman, who recognized the state of Israel in 1948, 11 minutes after it was reborn, later proclaimed proudly, "I am Cyrus." There is dark humor (or a lack of self-awareness) in Zarif's citation of Cyrus as proof of Iranian philo-Semitism, because today's Iranian leadership does not recognize Jewish sovereignty in Israel, as Cyrus once did, but instead seeks the annihilation of the Jewish state." https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/03/Iranian-View-of-Israel/387085/ Why then do Muslims not do a kind deed and allow Jeiwsh people to rebuild their Jewish temple on the Temple Mount, if there's no religious conflict between Jews and Muslims? Muslims allowing Jewish people to rebuild their center of worship would prove that there is no religious conflict between the 2 groups. Peace and God bless you
  8. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Hasanhh, According to Revelations, a third of the world will be mutilated during God's punishing the earth. This could mean a hemisphere, or it could mean devastation around the world, not just in one hemisphere. Due to the geographic layout of the earth, it's more than possible for devastation to hit in both hemispheres, not just one. After all, what happens in 1 hemisphere often aftershocks into the other. (I boldened some in the verses below.) 7 The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down on the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up. 8 The second angel sounded his trumpet, and something like a huge mountain, all ablaze, was thrown into the sea. A third of the sea turned into blood, 9 a third of the living creatures in the sea died, and a third of the ships were destroyed. 10 The third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star, blazing like a torch, fell from the sky on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water— 11 the name of the star is Wormwood.[a]A third of the waters turned bitter, and many people died from the waters that had become bitter. 12 The fourth angel sounded his trumpet, and a third of the sun was struck, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars, so that a third of them turned dark. A third of the day was without light, and also a third of the night. Anyways, it is interesting that the USA is an ally to Israel, whereas most other nations (including Germany which killed thousands of Jewish people , motivating thousands of Jewish people to flee) are against Israel. After Israel, the USA is also the country with the largest Jewish population after the Holocaust, according to the Jewish Virtual Library: http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world This is just an additional reason for many Muslim nations to hate the USA and wish for her destruction, sad to say. Peace and God bless you
  9. Grace of Christ or Burden of the Law

    Salam Andres, Do you think Jesus did not believe the Tanakh, or Jewish Bible? I personally believe Jesus believed that the Tanakh is the written Word of God. After all, he quoted it numerous times, and mentioned Moses. He obviously believed Moses to have existed and to still exist. The following are some times he referenced Moses: 1.) Then Jesus said to him, “See that you don’t tell anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the gift Moses commanded, as a testimony to them.” - Matthew 8:4 (NIV) 2.) Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. - Matthew 19:6 (NIV) 3.) Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. - Matthew 23:1-3 (NIV) 4.) Jesus sent him away at once with a strong warning. See that you don’t tell this to anyone. But go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.” - Mark 1:43-44 5.) And he continued, “You have a fine way of setting aside the commands of God in order to observe[c] your own traditions! 10 For Moses said, ‘Honor your father and mother,’[d] and, ‘Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death.’[e] 11 But you say that if anyone declares that what might have been used to help their father or mother is Corban (that is, devoted to God)— 12 then you no longer let them do anything for their father or mother. 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that.” - Mark 7:9-13 (NIV) 6.) “What did Moses command you?” he replied. They said, “Moses permitted a man to write a certificate of divorce and send her away.” “It was because your hearts were hard that Moses wrote you this law,” Jesus replied. 6 “But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” - Mark 10:3-9 (NIV) 7.) Jesus replied, “Are you not in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God? 25 When the dead rise, they will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven. 26 Now about the dead rising—have you not read in the Book of Moses, in the account of the burning bush, how God said to him, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’[d]? 27 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living. You are badly mistaken!” - Mark 12:24-27 (NIV) 8.) Then Jesus ordered him, “Don’t tell anyone, but go, show yourself to the priest and offer the sacrifices that Moses commanded for your cleansing, as a testimony to them.” - Luke 5:14 (NIV) 9.) (Jesus' rich man and poor Lazarus parable) “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’” -Luke 16:29-31 (NIV) 10.) Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection. 37 But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’[b] 38 He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.” - Luke 20:34-38 (NIV) 11.) And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself. - Luke 24:27 (NIV) 12.) He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.” - Luke 24:44 I have to go now, but if God wills, hope to reply to the rest of your post later. Peace and God bless you
  10. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Sumerian, I am not saying Muslims "must" do anything. Knowledge is power, and it does not hurt Muslims to know what the Bible says, even if they don't follow it. Similarly, it does not hurt Christians to know what the Qur'an says, even if they don't follow it. Peace and God bless you
  11. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Abu Hadi, This is similar to the Qur'an. When you quote the Qur'an, you are not quoting the original text either but rather a translation that has been altered over the centuries. Agreed. There is indeed a correlation between the actions of the modern day Israel and the actions of the Biblical Israel. Do you think the Philistines wanted the Biblical Israelites to take over their land? I don't. I would like to when I can. However, the focus should not be on me. The focus should be on God's promises. Out of curiosity, is there any promises in the Qur'an concerning Jerusalem? I have read the Qur'an, but I don't remember reading any. In both the Tanakh (Old Testament) and the New Testament, God gave promises concerning Jerusalem. Jerusalem is mentioned around 655 times in the Tanakh, and around 146 times in the New Testament. How many times is Jerusalem mentioned in the Qur'an? Peace and God bless you
  12. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Hasanhh, Thanks. How are you? I've never been there, but it is a dream to someday walk literally where Jesus Christ walked. Is Qom in America, Australia, or Canada? My point was "there are no prophecies in the Bible which prophesy that the Mashiach (Anointed One/King) will rule from either America, or Australia, or Canada. " The prophet Jeremiah, by the way, mentioned Jerusalem around 98 times and mentioned Judah (where the term "Jew" originated) around 165 times. God gave to prophet Jeremiah one of the most beautiful prophecies (in my opinion) about Jerusalem: (I boldened some.) And it shall come to pass, when ye are multiplied and increased in the land, in those days, saith the LORD, they shall say no more: The ark of the covenant of the LORD; neither shall it come to mind; neither shall they make mention of it; neither shall they miss it; neither shall it be made any more. At that time they shall call Jerusalem the throne of the LORD; and all the nations shall be gathered unto it, to the name of the LORD, to Jerusalem; neither shall they walk any more after the stubbornness of their evil heart. In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.' - Jeremiah 3:16-18 http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1103.htm Personally, I don't believe this prophecy has been fulfilled yet. I believe it will be fulfilled after Jesus Christ returns and rules from Jerusalem. Peace and God bless you
  13. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Abu Hadi, Agreed. Thanks for answering my question. I'm not sure if the Qur'an or hadiths go into much detail over David's wars? The Tanakh does go into some detail about David's fights, including the following: And David and his men went up, and made a raid upon the Geshurites, and the Gizrites, and the Amalekites; for those were the inhabitants of the land, who were of old, as thou goest to Shur, even unto the land of Egypt. And David smote the land, and left neither man nor woman alive, and took away the sheep, and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And he returned, and came to Achish. - 1 Samuel 27:8-9 http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt08a27.htm Personally, I wish that both Israel, Palestine, the USA, and every other nation would obey Jesus Christ's commands to love enemies. However, of course my wish doesn't matter. Again, what matters is what God promises. The Jewish prophets Isaiah and Zechariah prophesied that the Messiah would reign from Jerusalem. They prophesied this 2,000+ years ago, and we can choose to believe them or reject them. I believe that God gave them those prophesies. However, I understand if you believe the opposite. Peace and God bless you
  14. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Notme, You can attack me all you want. I don't like Trump and it has nothing to do with me. I hate war and am a pacifist, regardless of your assumptions. Again, what's important is what God promises, not my opinions. I am just quoting the ancient prophets who prophesied about Jerusalem what God told them to say. You can believe them or reject them; I personally believe them. Why? Because I believe God gave them those prophecies to tell people, including even us (people alive) today. Peace and God bless you
  15. Trump's Jerusalem decision

    Salam Abu Hadi, God uses even pagans to do His bidding. For example, He had pagans punish the Children of Israel multiple times for disobeying Him, including the time hundreds of years before Jesus Christ first came, when Babylon sacked Jerusalem, and when Rome destroyed Jerusalem, years after Jesus Christ first came. The history of Israel has been a cycle of God punishing the Children of Israel for their sins, then bringing them back, repeat. As for King David, do you believe that David fought the enemies of Israel? Just curious. Thanks. Solomon was a man of peace, but David was not. Peace and God bless you