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  1. Salam Notme, If I understand my Muslim friends who wear hijab correctly, they believe God made clothing (modest clothing) an important part of a Muslim woman's identify. According to a Muslim friend's explanation, it shows she is serious about her faith. Do you agree with this? However, La Pen is not a Muslim. The only reason she would wear a head scarf is to please a Muslim (in this case, the Grand Mufti of Lebanon), and obviously, pleasing Muslims is not her priority at the moment. Peace and God bless you
  2. Salam Mohamed1993, Aye, and Christians aren't allowed in Mecca, or Medina either, right? I think some Christians and Non-Muslims work in Saudi Arabia though, just not near Mecca or Medina. Anyways, would you think La Pen were an "idiot" if she refused to go to Saudi Arabia and wear the niqab? Peace and God bless you
  3. Salam Notme, Agreed. I do agree that La Pen is not showing good manners if she was going to go visit Lebanon. Definitely, I think it would be good for her to invite the Grand Mufti of Lebanon to France, and wear whatever is proper for French women in government to wear at their meeting. Great analogy! I have no problem with a head scarf. There are Christians from different areas of the world (and in the past) who wear/wore head scarfs and hats/bonnets. I personally would not be a good dignitary or ambassador to Saudi Arabia, lol, because I won't visit a country where the women are made to wear a niqab. However, La Pen's job description is not to make Muslim nation's leaders happy with her. She is to represent her people, the French. France is going through an identify crisis right now, same as the USA and England are. Definitely I think it's important for France, the USA, England, and any Western country to allow Muslim women to wear the hijab (which I personally like) and even the niqab (a garment I personally don't like) if they so desire. However, I don't believe female leaders of Western nations need to submit to the religious dictations of Islam. Western nations are not Muslim-dominated countries, at least not yet. There are definitely Christians and Atheists and Agnostics and Jewish people of different groups of Judaism and Hindus and Buddhists, etc. who have no desire to ever live in a Muslim-dominated nation, and will fight to keep themselves out of becoming dominated by Muslims... just sayin. (I am a pacifist who believes in not physically fighting due to Jesus Christ's commands to love enemies, but the fact is that the reason Europe is not dominated by Islam is due to physical fighting. Obviously many Christians in the past (and present) disagree with me concerning no physical fighting. My Christian friends who disagree with my pacifist stance use Muslim military invasions of Europe in the past as an example of why they think it's "ok", in their words, for Christians to physically fight. Here in the USA, there is a restlessness in many American Christians who are beginning to suspect/accuse Muslims of wanting to force the USA to become governed by Sharia. This is being felt in Europe in different places too. Lol! I'm not French either. Maybe! Peace and God bless you
  4. Salam Alidu78, This is a huge difference between a country with freedom of religion and a country that is governed by Sharia. This is one reason why some people in Western countries are beginning to wonder how compatible Muslims are to the Western value of freedom of religion. While I don't support Trump's Muslim ban, I am beginning to understand why some Non-Muslims have an issue with Muslims trying to force Non-Muslims to submit to Islamic requirements. Peace and God bless you
  5. Salam Mohamed1993, She doesn't have to submit to Sharia. It doesn't matter that she was "warned"; she is free to cancel any meeting with any Muslim leader who wants to dictate her clothes. Could you please quote her? Thanks. It is a concern to people who believe freedom of religion is important when people are forced to adhere to a religion. La Pen is obviously not a Muslim. Why force her to adhere to a Muslim dress code? Peace and God bless you
  6. Salam Mohamed1993, Most Muslims in the West who understand freedom of religion don't try to force Non-Muslims to wear either the hijab or an abaya. Why? Because they understand that each woman has the right to dress according to her belief. I disagree with you about what she tried to do. There are Muslim women who don't appreciate being forced to wear either the hijab or abaya. She is trying to take a stand for their rights, and I respect her for that. While i personally would have no problem wearing a headcovering in a Muslim country (I've never been to a Muslim-dominated country), I respect the rights of other women to not wear a headcovering. Personally, I draw the line at an abaya. I would 100% refuse to visit a country that requires women to wear an abaya and face veil, like this: I believe a government making abaya and face veil mandatory for women hurts women's rights. For this reason, I never ever want to visit Saudi Arabia, since it seems like the Saudi government forces women to wear a niqab? That's what that is - a full-body covering with a face veil? Well, some Non-Muslim women are fine with wearing a headscarf (like me). Others aren't, like La Pen. Some Non-Muslim women may be fine wearing a niqab, but some women like me aren't. I'd rather simply not visit a country that requires women wearing a niqab than wear one. I personally would feel dehumanized if I had to wear a niqab! Peace and God bless you
  7. Salam Notme, Those are better comparisons than forcing Muslims to wear a cross, true. True, though Muslim women differ as to what covering equals. Some Muslim women insist covering = complete covering, the abaya? . Other Muslims believe covering = just the headscarf and modest clothing, and other Muslims believe just modest clothing. However, freedom of religion should allow each woman to dress according to her personal beliefs. Peace and God bless you
  8. Salam Mohamed1993, No she's not. She doesn't have to submit to Islamic religious practices. France is not governed by Sharia; it's a secular state that allows freedom of religion. There's no French law that says she has to wear a headscarf when meeting a Muslim person from another country. She can cancel the meeting if she so desires, and that doesn't make her an insulting name. Would it make a Muslim an insulting name if he refused to meet an American without a head scarf? Should Americans call a Muslim government leader an "idiot" if he refuses to meet a female American candidate without a headscarf? I don't believe so. It's just obviously a very vast difference in religion and cultures. The French, by the way. have been known for hundreds of years for fashion. Most female European leaders do not conduct business in bikinis, including the Queen of England. Peace and God bless you
  9. Salam Alimr313, I personally believe it's awesome when women and girls wear headscarves because they themselves want to, because they believe it pleases God, not because the government forces them to wear the headscarf. Cultures are interesting and diverse. In English and English/American culture, beating an enemy opponent in a sport is considered really cool. Maybe this brother felt the same? Out of curiosity, does this brother have American or English ties? Why would chess be haram? It's a mental thinking sport. Not everybody can do well at it. (I'm not good at it, though my Dad is awesome at chess. My Dad is a genius, though.) I agree with you. And I think a lot of it is difference in cultures. The French presidential candidate has the right to refuse to wear the headscarf, same as the Grand Mufti of Lebanon has the right to refuse to see any woman without a headscarf. The issue is that it hurts the relations with the 2 very different countries when they refuse to compromise. I personally like headscarfs and have no problem with the thought of wearing one in a Muslim-dominated country. However, I would rather be given the choice than being forced to wear one. Would Muslims like to be forced to wear a cross when visiting a nation with many Christians? (I personally am very against forcing Muslims to wear Christian symbols though I understand that Jesus never commanded his followers to wear a cross. However, Jesus never commanded his female followers to wear a headscarf either; headscarfs were a cultural tradition in Jewish culture for married Jewish women.) They are thought-provoking questions. Peace and God bless you
  10. Salam 2113, Lol!!! That's exactly what I thought! My sister is a lawyer, and she would just laugh and laugh if anybody came to her office wanting to sue a discussion forum for keeping posts which don't break government law! That would highly amuse her! Peace and God bless you
  11. Salam Race, Anything a person writes that doesn't break Shiachat rules or government laws does not have to be deleted, regardless of one's opinion on the matter. I'm not sure in which country Shiachat is predominantly located, but as far as I know, there are no laws in either Canada or the USA that force discussion forums to delete posts that don't break government laws. So, if Yukapuka is located either in Canada, the USA, or a Western nation, he cannot force Shiachat to delete his posts via law. As for Judgement Day, each person is responsible for what they themselves say and do, both in secret and in public. Shiachat does not force members to write. Shiachat is not responsible for the posts which do not break its rules or government law. (Shiachat is responsible to delete posts that break the law, however, such as child pornography. This is in line with Shiachat's rules, since no pornography of any kind is allowed, and is rightly deleted, with the member who posted it being banned.) Many people wish to delete different Youtube videos or Facebook posts, or other public medias. However, they cannot prosecute people who keep them up, unless it breaks government law. (For example, a video of a person yelling at somebody does not break any law, so a person who posts such a video doesn't have to take it down; it's a part of freedom of speech and freedom of press.) That's why it's incredibly important for people to be careful what they say, write and do. Many are not easily deleted, especially if it's not against the law. Peace and God bless you
  12. Salam, I just want to make it clear that in any scenario and in any real life event, it's important to put God first and obey Him!!! And, I think the OP did that by not becoming violent and aggressive when a person disobeyed God by being violent and destructive to his car. Rather, thank God, He protected him! And, the OP didn't hurt anybody or another's property while God protected him. The OP is a great witness for the Islamic/Muslim faith by not giving in to the temptation to fight violence and hatred with violence and hatred. Fighting violence and hatred with violence and hatred is something anybody can do, including Atheists. Peace and God bless
  13. Salam Sister Shia2000, I personally don't believe that "men are gonna get-barrels o'beautiful women" in Paradise, though some men may kill other people and die in pursuit of this belief, along with other reasons. Jesus Christ clearly teaches that God created marriage to ideally be one man and one woman - Matthew 19:4-6. Jesus quotes Genesis to confirm that God made Adam and Eve to be one flesh: one man and one woman. Jesus also clearly teaches that there is no marriage in Heaven (Matthew 22:23-30). No marriage = no sex, since marriage is God's ideal for a sexual relationship. According to Jesus Christ, we will be "like the angels in heaven", though we won't be angels. Of course God will reward women in the afterlife!!! Jesus doesn't make a gender distinction, by the way, between what merits rewards in heaven For example, in his teachings accounted in Matthew chapters 5-7, there is no gender difference for what merits rewards in heaven. While he doesn't get into the specific details of what those rewards are, he doesn't say that the rewards are different based on gender. In Apostle John's writings in Revelation 7:9-17 and Revelation 21, there is no gender difference for the rewards. Revelation 21:3-4 (NIV) says, (I boldened some.) "And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’[b] or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away." - Revelation 21:3-4 (NIV) The above, by the way, are awesome rewards for both men and women!!! ??? God doesn't judge women more harshly than men. Actually, God holds husbands responsible for how they treat their wives. That's why Jesus talked about divorce to the men (Matthew 19:3-11), some of whom would treat their wives horribly and divorce them for ridiculous reasons. A Messianic Jewish rabbi for example explained to me that some men in Jesus' time and community would divorce their wives for accidentally burning their supper or getting older, and Jesus showed them that their wives are "one flesh" with them. True. I thank God so much for my marital relations with my hubby!!! And, I'm grateful that my hubby has no desire to have other women; he is happy with God's ideal of him and me being one flesh. In Christian history, women were taught to not talk of sex too. However, that led to many misunderstandings. It is very important to obey God concerning every area of life, including this sensitive topic. However, it's also important for women to be able to discuss sex with their Moms and female religious teachers, as well as with her husband someday. Peace and God bless you
  14. Salam Hasanhh, I personally support religious organizations who give refuge to undocumented people because of the following: 1. Biblical - Cities of refuge are actually Biblical for people who accidentally kill other people. (I boldened some.) "And the cities which ye shall give unto the Levites, they shall be the six cities of refuge, which ye shall give for the manslayer to flee thither; and beside them ye shall give forty and two cities." - Numbers 35:6 I think undocumentation is a less harmful transgression than accidentally killing someone is. 2. Follows Jesus' spirit of not condemning people, but rather inviting them in and accepting them “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. 35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ - Matthew 25:34-36 (NIV) ... “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’" - Matthew 25:40 (NIV) Jesus is the King (Christ/Anointed One) of all nations. While some Christians think that Jesus is only speaking about inviting only Christian strangers in, I personally believe Jesus is talking about brothers and sisters in humanity. (I could be wrong.) 3. The Golden Rule - "Do to others as you would have them do to you." - Jesus Christ (Luke 6:31, NIV) I didn't ask to be born an American citizen, same as people in other countries didn't ask to be born in those countries. I could have been born in a poverty-stricken family in México, for example. If I had been, I would have greatly appreciated sanctuary cities. Why? Because I could have been in the shoes of an undocumented immigrant. I need to think what I would like done to me before I do anything to them. 4. The US immigration policy caters to the well off, not to the destitute who cannot afford the fees the USA demands. It desperately needs to be reformed, especially to help poverty-stricken immigrants. 5. Christian beliefs include the idea that the Kingdom of Jesus Christ is global. That means that people from all nations are important to him. Because of this, it is important to care for and help people from all nations!!! After all, one area in which we will be judged is how we treat other people. "After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. " - Revelation 7:9a (NIV) Peace and God bless you
  15. Salam Miss Wonderful. The USA and Western countries in Europe have radically changed the lifestyles of many people around the world due to advanced technology. This does attract many people to both the USA and to European nations. It makes sense. People like comfort. They like entertainment, and they like to work in comfortable, well-paying jobs. Some people immigrate to the USA for religious freedom, which they don't have in their own countries. Others immigrate to the USA for the "American dream" which is basically to have a good life for one's family. Still others are refugees escaping danger in their home country. The USA is, whether people like it or not, the land of immigrants. Most people in the USA today are descendants of immigrants, whether those immigrants were forced to immigrate due to slavery , or came of their own free will. Thank God, slavery is no longer legal in the USA. The USA and Western nations are by no means perfect, and they have bloody and horrible histories. However, it's interesting how they have matured in different ways. One thing that's sad now however is that the USA seems to currently be doing the opposite of maturing thanks to racism and religious bigotry. Peace and God bless you