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  1. Sahaba part Two

    1. What is your evidence to consider the action of the prophet for announcing his successor as False? when all the historical events are proving it. 2. I do reject completely your all assumptions and conjecture (like in this thread i have refuted your claim in the light of verses of quran that companions of the prophet saaw were one group alone but in actual they are three groups consisting of true believers, believers but going against the prophet saaw in his life and there were muafiqeen / hypocrites in companions.) wasalam
  2. I am Only Trying Shia Islam only for 6 Months.

    The hadith from Al Kafi are quoted as under: H 6, Ch. 1, h 6 Ahmad ibn Idris has narrated from Muhammad ibn Hassa’n from abu Muhammad al-Razi from Sayf ibn ‘Umayra from Ishaq ibn ‘Ammar from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s) who has said the following. "One who has Intelligence he has a religion also and one who has religion he enters Paradise." H 7, Ch. 1, h 7 A number of our people has narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Khalid from al-Hassan ibn Ali ibn Yaqtin from Muhammad ibn Sinan ibn abu al-Jarud from abu Ja‘far (a.s) who has said the following. "Allah, on the Day of Judgment, will hold everyone accountable according to the degree of the intelligence that He had given them in their worldly life." H 8, Ch. 1, h 8 Ali ibn Muhammad ibn ‘Abdallah has narrated from Ibrahim ibn Ishaq al-Ahmar from Muhammad ibn Sulayman al-Daylami his father who has said the following. "Once I mentioned a certain person’s intelligence, worship and religion before Imam abu ‘Abdallah (a. s). The Imam (a.s) asked, "How is his intelligence? The man replied, ‘I do not know.’ The Imam then said, "The degree of reward is based on the degree of intelligence. A man of Bani Israel worshipped Allah on an island in the ocean. The island was lush green, with many trees and abundant water. Once an angels passed by the worshipper and asked Allah to show how much reward and blessings would the worshipper receive for his good deeds. Allah showed the rewards due to the worshipper to the angel and the angel considered it very little. Allah then told the angel to stay with the worshipper as a companion. The angel then appeared to the worshipper in the form of a human being. The worshipper asked, "Who are you?" ‘ I have heard about your great worships and your spiritual position at this place and I wish to join you to worship Allah along with you." The angel said. He spent that day with the worshipper and the next day the angel said to the worshipper, "Your place is beautiful and it should only be used for worship." ‘Yes, it is but it has one shortcoming.’ The worshipper responded. "What is that?" The angel inquired. "Our Lord does not have an animal. I whish He had a donkey so that we would look after the donkey to graze all the grass around. All these grass is a waste." ‘Does your Lord have no donkey? Asked the angel. "Had our Lord had a donkey all this grass would not have turned into waste." The worshipper answered with sadness. Allah then revealed to the angel, "We reward everyone according to the degree of his/her intelligence." H 9, Ch. 1, h 9 Ali ibn Ibrahim has narrated from his father from al-Nawfali from al-Sakuni from abu ‘Abdallah (a.s) who has said the following. "The holy Prophet said, "If you would hear good things about a man, you should examine how good his intelligence is, because he will be rewarded according to his intelligence." (Alkafi , Part Aql wa jehal, Vol 1)
  3. Arabic Speakers help please!!

    The following may be added further in this concern: al Qamoos Al-Muheet, Vol 3 page 92 “Shi’a refers to the helper of another” Mufaridaat al Qur’an Volume 1 page 563, Urdu translation by Abdullah Firazpuri “Amongst the followers [Shi'a] of Nuh was Ibrahim” Tafseer Ma’arif ul Qur’an Volume 5 page 273, by Mufti Muhammad Sha’afi commentary of verse 10 of Surah Hajr “The plural of al Shi’i is Shi’a which means to follow and support someone”. Muqaddimah by Ibn Khaldun [Urdu translation b Maulana Raghab] page 196 “Shi’a refers to a follower” al Nihaya: وأصل الشيعة الفرقة من الناس وتقع على الواحد والاثنين والجمع والمذكر والمؤنث بلفظ واحد ومعنى واحد وقد غلب الاسم على من يزعم أنه يتولى عليا رضي الله عنه وأهل بيته “Shia is a group of people, this name can be used for singular and plural, for male and female, and this name is used for those who claim that they follow Ali (ra) and his Ahlulbayt” Lisan Al-Arab: وأصل الشيعة الفرقة من الناس ويقع على الواحد والاثنين والجمع والمذكر والمؤنث بلفظ واحد ومعنى واحد وقد غلب هذا الاسم على من يتوالى عليا وأهل بيته “Shia is a group of people, can be used for singular and plural, for male and female, this name is used for those who follow Ali and his Ahlulbayt” Darr al Maarif: “Shi’a refers to the lovers of ‘Ali. They believe that Imamate is restricted to the family of ‘Ali” Islamic Encyclopaedia: “Shi’a is a big Islamic Sect from amongst the Sects they believe that after the Prophet (s), ‘Ali was the immediate successor and after him Imamate was the exclusive right of his family” al Qamoos: وشيعة الرجل بالكسر أتباعه وأنصاره والفرقة على حدة ويقع الواحد والاثنين والجمع والمذكر والمؤنث وقد غلب هذا الأسم على كل من يتولى عليا وأهل بيته “Shia means a follower and it can be used for singular or plural, for male and female and this term is used for those who follow Ali and his Ahlulbayt” al-Mawaqif by Eji: من كبار الفرق الإسلامية الشيعة أي الذين شايعوا عليا وقالوا إنه الإمام بعد رسول الله بالنص إما جليا وإما خفيا واعتقدوا أن الإمامة لا تخرج عنه وعن أولاده “Shia is one of the largest Islamic sects, they are those who follow Ali and believe that he is the Imam right after Allah’s apostle by text, whether it’s a clear or unclear text, and they believe that Imamate is for his progeny”. al Mihal: “Shi’a are those who follow ‘Ali, they believe that after the death of the Prophet (s) the rightful Imam was ‘Ali”. Sharh Fiqh Akbar: “Shi’a believe after the death of the Prophet (s) the rightful Imam was ‘Ali”. Sharh Aqaid Nafsee: “Shi’a believe after the death of the Prophet (s) the rightful Imam was ‘Ali, then Hasan and Husayn up till Mahdi” Al Munjud: “The Shi’a of any person is he who will help him and follow him, the plural of Shia or Ashi’a. The word is generally used for more than one it can be used for masculine and feminine tense In this day and age it has become exclusively associated with those who love ‘Ali and his household, although it has become their specific name, the literal meaning of Shi’a is Sect”. http://www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/shia-of-ali-appraisals/shia-as-mentioned-in-quran.html
  4. Sahaba part Two

    The presence and categorization of companions in three groups ie first group as True believers, second group as Believers going against the prophet saww in his life and thrid group as the munfiqeen /. hypocrites among the companions have been well proven in the light of the verses of quran. Thus the definitions of these three groups is complete in this thread and it leaves no room for any further discussion about it. wasalam
  5. Sahaba part Two

    This statement is just based on insufficient understanding of the other verses of Quran. I quote the following verses in this concern: "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Mysteries Except an apostle whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him" (72:26/27) The prophet Muhammad saaw is the chosen representative of Allah swt and he is the last of the prophets, He has been given the necessary knowledge of unseen by Allah swt. "And he (Muhammad) is not niggardly the Knowledge of the Unseen.”(Qur’an 81:24). وَمَا هُوَ عَلَى الْغَيْبِ بِضَنِينٍ﴿٢٤﴾ The discussion about this can be seen based on the verses of quran and hadith of the prophet saaw from sunni sources, The link is mentioned below: http://www.ahlus-sunna.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=54 The hadith of the prophet Muhamamd saww provide the following identification of munafiqeen among the companions:: Volume 8, Book 76, Number 578: Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount." 'Abdullah added: The Prophet said, "Iam your predecessor at the Lake-Fount, and some of you will be brought in front of me till I will see them and then they will be taken away from me and I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' It will besaid, 'You do not know what they did after you had left.' Volume 8, Book 76, Number 585: Narrated Abu Hazim from Sahl bin Sa'd: The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor (forerunner) at the Lake-Fount, and whoever will pass by there, he will drink from it and whoever will drink from it, he will never be thirsty. There will come to me some people whom I will recognize, and they will recognize me, but a barrier will be placed between me and them." Abu Hazim added: An-Nu'man bin Abi 'Aiyash, on hearing me, said. "Did you hear this from Sahl?" I said, "Yes." He said, " I bear witness that I heard Abu Said Al-Khudri saying the same, adding that the Prophet said: 'I will say: They are of me (i.e. my followers). It will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you left'. I will say, 'Far removed, far removed (from mercy), those who changed (their religion) after me." Abu Huraira narrated that the Prophet said, "On the Day of Resurrection a group of companions will come to me, but will be driven away from the Lake-Fount, and I will say, 'O Lord (those are) my companions!' It will be said,'You have no knowledge as to what they innovated after you left; they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam)." Volume 8, Book 76, Number 586: Narrated Ibn Al-Musaiyab: The companions of the Prophet said, "Some men from my companions will come to my Lake-Fount and they will be driven away from it, and I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' It will be said, 'You have no knowledge of what they innovated after you left: they turned apostate as renegades (reverted from Islam). Volume 9, Book 88, Number 174: Narrated Sahl bin Sa'd: I heard the Prophet saying, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount (Kauthar), and whoever will come to it, will drink from it, and whoever will drink from it, will never become thirsty after that. There will come to me some people whom I know and they know me, and then a barrier will be set up between me and them." Abu Sa'id Al-Khudri added that the Prophet further said: "I will say those people are from me. It will be said, 'You do not know what changes and new things they did after you.' Then I will say, 'Far removed (from mercy), far removed (from mercy), those who changed (the religion) after me! " .....Many more The confirmation from the verses of Quran for munafiqeen among the companions is given below: يَحْلِفُونَ بِاللَّهِ مَا قَالُوا وَلَقَدْ قَالُوا كَلِمَةَ الْكُفْرِ وَكَفَرُوا بَعْدَ إِسْلَامِهِمْ وَهَمُّوا بِمَا لَمْ يَنَالُوا ۚ وَمَا نَقَمُوا إِلَّا أَنْ أَغْنَاهُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ مِن فَضْلِهِ ۚ فَإِن يَتُوبُوا يَكُ خَيْرًا لَّهُمْ ۖ وَإِن يَتَوَلَّوْا يُعَذِّبْهُمُ اللَّهُ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ ۚ وَمَا لَهُمْ فِي الْأَرْضِ مِن وَلِيٍّ وَلَا نَصِيرٍ They swear by Allah that they did not say [anything against the Prophet] while they had said the word of disbelief and disbelieved after their [pretense of] Islam and planned that which they were not to attain. And they were not resentful except [for the fact] that Allah and His Messenger had enriched them of His bounty. So if they repent, it is better for them; but if they turn away, Allah will punish them with a painful punishment in this world and the Hereafter. And there will not be for them on earth any protector or helper. (9:74) أَلَمْ يَأْنِ لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَن تَخْشَعَ قُلُوبُهُمْ لِذِكْرِ اللَّهِ وَمَا نَزَلَ مِنَ الْحَقِّ وَلَا يَكُونُوا كَالَّذِينَ أُوتُوا الْكِتَابَ مِن قَبْلُ فَطَالَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْأَمَدُ فَقَسَتْ قُلُوبُهُمْ ۖ وَكَثِيرٌ مِّنْهُمْ فَاسِقُونَ Has the time not come for those who have believed that their hearts should become humbly submissive at the remembrance of Allah and what has come down of the truth? And let them not be like those who were given the Scripture before, and a long period passed over them, so their hearts hardened; and many of them are defiantly disobedient. (57:16) First, Allah swt is addressing the companions and THEN comparing them to the Jews and the Christians. " Has the time not come for those who have believed that their hearts should become humbly submissive at the remembrance of Allah..." and then tell them: "...and And let them not be like those who were given the Scripture before,..." The verse was revealed as a questioning by Allah swt regarding some of the Muhajiroon (the Immigrants), who 17 years after the Quran was revealed, had still not fully believed in their HEARTS. Allah swt as a result, showed disapproval. Again, at the end, Allah points out that among them are many defiantly disobedient. Thus in this manner when Quran categorizes the companions we believe that truth is revealed in Quran. wasalam
  6. Sahaba part Two

    The above clearly describe the presence of the munafiqeen around the prophet saaw ie who were arabs and among the people of Medina.. The verse is very clear in its context. The added part in translation ie ((there are some who) has nothing to do with the original arabic text of the verse. The simple question arises here did the companions / Sahaba live in Medina after Hijra ie Muhajirin lived in Medina after hijra in Medina ? The answer to the question based on history is Yes. Thus it confirms the presence of munafiqeen among the companions who lived in Medina after hijra. they are counted as third group in my post mentioned earlier. wasalam
  7. Sahaba part Two

    1. The above verse provides the evidence that only True believers among the companions are being praised. (This is what i have mentioned in my earlier post as group 1) The following part of the verse is evidence for confrimation : "And the first to lead the way, of the Muhajirin and the Ansar, and those who followed them in goodness - Allah is well pleased with them" Thus ONLY those (Not ALL) the companions are covered in this verse. 2. The assumption made by yourself that "Allah has not excluded anyone among mujhroon here from his blessings. " is against the verse of quran mentioned above and the other verses mentioned below for confirmation. 3. The Quran by its verses does mention the evidence about the third / intermediate category about the companions who were believers but not sincere followers of the prophet saaw and going against him on many occasions.. The following verses of quran are sufficient for it as evidence: مُّحَمَّدٌ رَّسُولُ اللَّهِ ۚ وَالَّذِينَ مَعَهُ أَشِدَّاءُ عَلَى الْكُفَّارِ رُحَمَاءُ بَيْنَهُمْ ۖ تَرَاهُمْ رُكَّعًا سُجَّدًا يَبْتَغُونَ فَضْلًا مِّنَ اللَّهِ وَرِضْوَانًا ۖ سِيمَاهُمْ فِي وُجُوهِهِم مِّنْ أَثَرِ السُّجُودِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ مَثَلُهُمْ فِي التَّوْرَاةِ ۚ وَمَثَلُهُمْ فِي الْإِنجِيلِ كَزَرْعٍ أَخْرَجَ شَطْأَهُ فَآزَرَهُ فَاسْتَغْلَظَ فَاسْتَوَىٰ عَلَىٰ سُوقِهِ يُعْجِبُ الزُّرَّاعَ لِيَغِيظَ بِهِمُ الْكُفَّارَ ۗ وَعَدَ اللَّهُ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ مِنْهُم مَّغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves. You see them bowing and prostrating [in prayer], seeking bounty from Allah and [His] pleasure. Their mark is on their faces from the trace of prostration. That is their description in the Torah. And their description in the Gospel is as a plant which produces its offshoots and strengthens them so they grow firm and stand upon their stalks, delighting the sowers - so that Allah may enrage by them the disbelievers. Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward. (48:29) In the above verse Allah swt has mentioned that he has promised for those ONLY as given below: “Allah has promised those who believe and do righteous deeds among them forgiveness and a great reward.” For the Second . intermediate group the Quran mentions the Warning to Companions (sahaba) the following verses are quoted: يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا مَا لَكُمْ إِذَا قِيلَ لَكُمُ انفِرُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ اثَّاقَلْتُمْ إِلَى الْأَرْضِ ۚ أَرَضِيتُم بِالْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا مِنَ الْآخِرَةِ ۚ فَمَا مَتَاعُ الْحَيَاةِ الدُّنْيَا فِي الْآخِرَةِ إِلَّا قَلِيلٌ O you who have believed, what is [the matter] with you that, when you are told to go forth in the cause of Allah , you adhere heavily to the earth? Are you satisfied with the life of this world rather than the Hereafter? But what is the enjoyment of worldly life compared to the Hereafter except a [very] little. (9:38) إِلَّا تَنفِرُوا يُعَذِّبْكُمْ عَذَابًا أَلِيمًا وَيَسْتَبْدِلْ قَوْمًا غَيْرَكُمْ وَلَا تَضُرُّوهُ شَيْئًا ۗ وَاللَّهُ عَلَىٰ كُلِّ شَيْءٍ قَدِيرٌ If you do not go forth, He will punish you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another people, and you will not harm Him at all. And Allah is over all things competent. (9;39) This is a clear indication that some of the companions were lazy during the call to Jihad and other activities, and, thus, deserved the above reprimand by Allah swt. This is not the only instance where Allah swt threatened to replace them: هَا أَنتُمْ هَٰؤُلَاءِ تُدْعَوْنَ لِتُنفِقُوا فِي سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ فَمِنكُم مَّن يَبْخَلُ ۖ وَمَن يَبْخَلْ فَإِنَّمَا يَبْخَلُ عَن نَّفْسِهِ ۚ وَاللَّهُ الْغَنِيُّ وَأَنتُمُ الْفُقَرَاءُ ۚ وَإِن تَتَوَلَّوْا يَسْتَبْدِلْ قَوْمًا غَيْرَكُمْ ثُمَّ لَا يَكُونُوا أَمْثَالَكُم Here you are - those invited to spend in the cause of Allah - but among you are those who withhold [out of greed]. And whoever withholds only withholds [benefit] from himself; and Allah is the Free of need, while you are the needy. And if you turn away, He will replace you with another people; then they will not be the likes of you. (47:38) يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَا تَرْفَعُوا أَصْوَاتَكُمْ فَوْقَ صَوْتِ النَّبِيِّ وَلَا تَجْهَرُوا لَهُ بِالْقَوْلِ كَجَهْرِ بَعْضِكُمْ لِبَعْضٍ أَن تَحْبَطَ أَعْمَالُكُمْ وَأَنتُمْ لَا تَشْعُرُونَ O you who have believed, do not raise your voices above the voice of the Prophet or be loud to him in speech like the loudness of some of you to others, lest your deeds become worthless while you perceive not. (49:2) وَإِذَا رَأَوْا تِجَارَةً أَوْ لَهْوًا انفَضُّوا إِلَيْهَا وَتَرَكُوكَ قَائِمًا ۚ قُلْ مَا عِندَ اللَّهِ خَيْرٌ مِّنَ اللَّهْوِ وَمِنَ التِّجَارَةِ ۚ وَاللَّهُ خَيْرُ الرَّازِقِينَ But when they saw a transaction or a diversion, [O Muhammad], they rushed to it and left you (prophet) standing. Say, "What is with Allah is better than diversion and than a transaction, and Allah is the best of providers." (62:11) 4. Thus it is well proven from the Quran that the companions are not one group (but three groups) wasalam
  8. Will Master Mahdi (AlaihisSalaam) Marry ?

    It reminds me the question to Imam Ali AS asked by a person that how many hair a person has at his beard?
  9. Sahaba part Two

    i agree to the extent based on the verses of Quran and relevant hadith (as detailed in thread quoted in my previous post), that Quran addresses the three groups of companions ie true believers, believers but going against the prophet sayings even in his life and the hypocrites / munafiqeen in the life and after the prophet saww.. wasalam
  10. Sahaba part Two

    Replied above in the last post please. Also by your analogy all the hypocrites are equal to the first group of believers among the companions Do you find that hypocrites among the companions are equal in virtues to that of the true believers? wasalam
  11. Sahaba part Two

    1. The question first provides the evidence that the companions are not of equal status and virtues. This denies the itself sunni view of Adalah of companions.( that all the companions are Adil / just / fair). But the quran mentions three groups of companions which are denied by sunni friends. This is against the verses of quran itself. 2.The example of prophet saaw is quoted with a specif message to be delivered that was delivered by the prophet saaw at khum. at the event of last pilgrim ie hajj. It has nothing to do with the warning of the companions ie group no. 2. & 3. This necessitates a verse of Quran to justify your claim that the group of companions are of equal status and virtues to that of the prophet saaw. eg the prophet saaw went to the night of ascension can you give me at-least similar example by the verse of quran for the companions before any consideration can be given to your assumption and analogy (for the warning to the prophets and the companions being equal in nature and status). In the absence of such a verse it is mere false conjecture. wasslam
  12. Does The Quran Disrespect The Sahaba?

    The same is replied in the other thread the link of that is given below:
  13. Sahaba part Two

    This view neglects the points explained by the verses of Quran for the other two groups as mentioned in my last post. ie the group of companions warned by the quran and the 3. The group of companions who may turn away from the religion ie hypocrites / munafiqeen This is where the sunni view is found against the verses of quran about other groups of companions wasalam
  14. Sahaba part Two

    The following link provides the view of Quran about the companions: : The Quran addresses /considers the companions in three different groups: 1. The group of companions that is praised by quran 2. The group of companions warned by the quran for their actions 3. The group of companions who may turn away from the religion ie hypocrites / munafiqeen regards
  15. Please help.

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