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  1. Sidiqah: The woman is called sidiqah مَّا الْمَسِيحُ ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ إِلَّا رَسُولٌ قَدْ خَلَتْ مِن قَبْلِهِ الرُّسُلُ وَأُمُّهُ صِدِّيقَةٌ ۖ كَانَا يَأْكُلَانِ الطَّعَامَ ۗ انظُرْ كَيْفَ نُبَيِّنُ لَهُمُ الْآيَاتِ ثُمَّ انظُرْ أَنَّىٰ يُؤْفَكُونَ The Messiah, son of Marium is but an apostle; apostles before him have indeed passed away; and his mother was a truthful woman; they both used to eat food. See how We make the communications clear to them, then behold, how they are turned away. (5:75) In this verse Mariuym SAA has been mentioned as Sidiqah and she was the mother of Esa AS. So Sidiqah needs to be a mother of the prophet who is a representative chosen by Allah swr. The prophet saw has mentioned the names of the chosen women of the world: The Prophet (s) said, “Of all the women in the Universe, four would suffice: Mary, Asiya, Khadija, and Fatima.” Al-Sahihain, v. 3, the Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 171; Seir Alam Al-Nabala’, v. 2, p. 126; Al-Bidaya wa Al-Nihaya, v. 2, p. 59; The Virtues of Al-Imam Ali of Ibn Al-Maghazali, p. 363. The sayings of Prophet saww for the virtues of Fatima SAA mentions that she is Sadiqah. Sadiqah - The Truthful It was narrated that 'Aisha said: 'I have not seen any one more truthful than her - Fatimah - but only her father.' ( Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 43, chapter 3, p. 53; al-Mustadrak, vol. 3, p. 160.) The value of this hadith is that it has been narrated by 'Aisha, It is worth noting that 'Aisha did not say in her description of Fatimah (as) that she was 'the truthful', but the most truthful. This expression, when given to a person, means that they are very sensitive to truthfulness, and that they would make absolutely sure that any word they utter contains no false suggestions, and certainly no lies. 'Aisha saw Fatimah as (as) the most truthful, and one who represented truth in speech and attitude, like her father the Messenger of Allah (sawa) who manifested truth so that his folk knew him - even before the start of his Message - as 'the truthful, the trustworthy'. The following Excellent virtues of Fatima SAA are incomparable with any woman: The Prophet (s) said, "Fatima is the Head of the women of Paradise." Sahih Al-Bukhari, v. 3, Kitab Al-Fadha'il, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 1374; Mustadrak Al-Sahihain, v. 3, Chapter on the Virtues of Fatima, p. 164; Sunan Al-Tirmidhi, v. 3, p. 266; Kenz Al-Omal, v. 13, p. 193; Muntakhab Kenz Al-Omal, v. 5, p. 97; Al-Jami' Al-Sagheer, v. 2, no. 564, p. 5760; Seir Alam Al-Nubala’, v. 2, p. 123; Al-Sawaiq Al-Muhariqa, p.187 & 191; Khasai’s Al-Imam Ali of Nisa’i, p. 118; Yanabi' Al-Mawadda, v. 2, p. 79; Al-Jawhera Fi Nasab Ali Wa Aalihi, p. 17; Al-Bidaya wa Al-Nihaya, v. 2, p. 60. Sideeq: The man is known as Sideeq ١٢_٤٦ يُوسُفُ أَيُّهَا ٱلصِّدِّيقُ أَفْتِنَا فِى سَبْعِ بَقَرَٰتٍۢ سِمَانٍۢ يَأْكُلُهُنَّ سَبْعٌ عِجَافٌۭ وَسَبْعِ سُنۢبُلَٰتٍ خُضْرٍۢ وَأُخَرَ يَابِسَٰتٍۢ لَّعَلِّىٓ أَرْجِعُ إِلَى ٱلنَّاسِ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَعْلَمُونَ [12:46] Yusuf! O truthful one! explain to us seven fat kine which seven lean ones devoured, and seven green ears and (seven) others dry, that I may go back to the people so that they may know وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ إِدْرِيسَ ۚ إِنَّهُ كَانَ صِدِّيقًا نَّبِيًّا 19;56, And mention Idris in the Book; surely he was a truthful man, a prophet, وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ ۚ إِنَّهُ كَانَ صِدِّيقًا نَّبِيًّا [19:41] And mention Ibrahim in the Book; surely he was a truthful man, a prophet. وَإِذِ ابْتَلَىٰ إِبْرَاهِيمَ رَبُّهُ بِكَلِمَاتٍ فَأَتَمَّهُنَّ ۖ قَالَ إِنِّي جَاعِلُكَ لِلنَّاسِ إِمَامًا ۖ قَالَ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّتِي ۖ قَالَ لَا يَنَالُ عَهْدِي الظَّالِمِينَ And [mention, O Muhammad], when Abraham was tried by his Lord with commands and he fulfilled them. [ Allah ] said, "Indeed, I will make you a leader for the people." [Abraham] said, "And of my descendants?" [ Allah ] said, "My covenant does not include the wrongdoers." (2:124) The above verses indicate that the Sideeq is the one who is a representative of Allah swt and chosen by thy. The above verse mentions the example of Ibrahim AS who is a prophet and an Imam chosen by Allah swt. He has been referred as Sideeq. وَأَخِي هَارُونُ هُوَ أَفْصَحُ مِنِّي لِسَانًا فَأَرْسِلْهُ مَعِيَ رِدْءًا يُصَدِّقُنِي ۖ إِنِّي أَخَافُ أَن يُكَذِّبُونِ 028:034 Aaron, my brother—he is more eloquent than me in speech. So send him with me as a helper to confirm me, for I fear that they will impugn me.’ The above verse also verifies that Harun AS is referred to confirm the Prophet Musa AS as Siddiq . Hadith Manzila: The Messenger of Allah, peace be upon him, said to ‘Ali: “You are to me of the status of Harun to Musa, except that there is no prophet after me.” The hadith has been reported both in sunni and shia sources. Based on above verses and hadith it is indicated that Imam Ali is Sideeq. The confirmation of the fact comes by the sayings of the prophet Muhammad saw by the following hadith: In: "Sun'an Ibn Maj'ah (سنن ابن ماجة)", By: Muhammad bin Yaz'eed Al-Qazwini Abu abdullah Bin Maj'ah (محمد بن يزيد القزويني أبو عبد الله ابن ماجة), Investigated by: Muhammad Fo'a'ad Ab'd Al-Baqi (محمد فؤاد عبد الباقي): Association: Da'ar I'h'ya Al-Kutub Al-I,miyah (دار إحياء الكتب العربية), volume #1, Page# 44, Narration# 120: حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ الرَّازِيُّ قَالَ: حَدَّثَنَا عُبَيْدُ اللَّهِ بْنُ مُوسَى قَالَ: أَنْبَأَنَا الْعَلَاءُ بْنُ صَالِحٍ، عَنِ الْمِنْهَالِ، عَنْ عَبَّادِ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ: قَالَ عَلِيٌّ: «أَنَا عَبْدُ اللَّهِ وَأَخُو رَسُولِهِ صَلَّى اللهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ، وَأَنَا الصِّدِّيقُ الْأَكْبَرُ، لَا يَقُولُهَا بَعْدِي إِلَّا كَذَّابٌ، صَلَّيْتُ قَبْلَ النَّاسِ لِسَبْعِ سِنِينَ Told us Muhammad bin Isma'ail Al-Razi, said: told us Ubaidullah bin Musa said: informed us Al-Ala'a bin Sal'eh, from Al-Munhil, from Ab'ad bin Abdullah said: Said Ali (a.s): "I am the servant of Allah and the brother of his Messenger, peace and blessings be upon him, and I am the greatest truthful (righteous) (Sideeq Al-Akbar), and no one says it after me, except a liar. I preformed Salat before the people for seven years." في الزوائد هذا الإسناد صحيح. رجاله ثقات. رواه الحاكم في المستدرك عن المنهال وقال صحيح على شرط الشيخين. In Al-Zawa'id, this is an Authentic (Sahih) Isn'aad/chain, and its men are trustworthy (thiqa'at). Narrated it Al-Hakim in his Mustadrak from Al-Mun'haal, and said: Authentic on the guidelines of Bukhari And Muslim. Thus confirming no one is Sideeq Akbar except Imam Ali AS. Similarly all the members of the Ahl albaayt are purified and truth ful-ones. Mubhaila as mentioned in Quran (3:61) is another proof in adition to the verse of purifciation (last part 33:33) وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا بِاللَّـهِ وَرُسُلِهِ أُولَـٰئِكَ هُمُ الصِّدِّيقُونَ ۖ وَالشُّهَدَاءُ عِندَ رَبِّهِمْ لَهُمْ أَجْرُهُمْ وَنُورُهُمْ ۖ وَالَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا وَكَذَّبُوا بِآيَاتِنَا أُولَـٰئِكَ أَصْحَابُ الْجَحِيمِ ﴿١٩﴾ [57:19] And (as for) those who believe in Allah and His apostles, these it is that are the truthful and the faithful ones in the sight of their Lord: they shall have their reward and their light, and (as for) those who disbelieve and reject Our communications, these are the inmates of the hell. The above provides the proof of the truthfulness of Sidiqun, who are true followers of the prophet and no one else can have this standard of excellence and virtues. You guess has noting to do with the verses of quran and hadith of the prophet saaw that have exposed the truth always. wasalam
  2. Certainly the followers of the thaqlyan are not ignorant they are men of understanding because of knowledge coming from the prophet saaw and imams.
  3. However just quoting one verse that has nothing to do with the concept of Ahl albaayt and comparing it with with the Tauheed shows that the people are unable to bring their so called protectors/ awilya against the defined Wali by Allah swt. Verse of Wilayah: إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ اللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُوا الَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ الصَّلَاةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ الزَّكَاةَ وَهُمْ رَاكِعُونَ Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. (5:55) وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ اللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُ وَالَّذِينَ آمَنُا فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ اللَّهِ هُمُ الْغَالِبُونَ And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant.(5:56) Fakhru'd-Din ar-Razi, who, like az- Zamakhshari, is one of the great men of the Sunni school and of the whole community, said: "This ayah was revealed concerning `Ali, and scholars are all in agreement that the payment of zakat in the time of ruku` (the position of bowing down in prayer) did not take place except in the case of 'Ali."'(at-Taf siru 'l-kabir, vol.xii, p.30. (Egyptian print- ing, 1357) The Shaitan is Wali (other than Allah): وَمَن يَتَّخِذِ الشَّيْطَانَ وَلِيًّا مِّن دُونِ اللَّهِ فَقَدْ خَسِرَ خُسْرَانًا مُّبِينًا and whoever takes the Shaitan for a guardian rather than Allah he indeed shall suffer a manifest loss. (4:119) يَا أَبَتِ إِنِّي أَخَافُ أَن يَمَسَّكَ عَذَابٌ مِّنَ الرَّحْمَٰنِ فَتَكُونَ لِلشَّيْطَانِ وَلِيًّا O my father! surely I fear that a punishment from the Beneficent Allah should afflict you so that you should be a friend of the Shaitan. (19:45) تَاللَّهِ لَقَدْ أَرْسَلْنَا إِلَىٰ أُمَمٍ مِّن قَبْلِكَ فَزَيَّنَ لَهُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَعْمَالَهُمْ فَهُوَ وَلِيُّهُمُ الْيَوْمَ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ By Allah, most certainly We sent (messengers) to nations before you, but the Shaitan made their deeds fair-seeming to them, so he is their guardian today, and they shall have a painful punishment. (16:63) Meaning of taking Wali other than Allah: اتَّبِعُوا مَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكُم مِّن رَّبِّكُمْ وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا مِن دُونِهِ أَوْلِيَاءَ ۗ قَلِيلًا مَّا تَذَكَّرُونَ Follow what has been revealed to you from your Lord and do not follow guardians besides Him, how little do you mind. (7:3) This means that we should not take the Shaitan as Wali / guardian. Those who are appointed by Allah are Wali including messenger, Imam Ali (& 11 Imams after him), we shall follow them (as mentioned in verse 5:55, 56). يَا بَنِي آدَمَ لَا يَفْتِنَنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ كَمَا أَخْرَجَ أَبَوَيْكُم مِّنَ الْجَنَّةِ يَنزِعُ عَنْهُمَا لِبَاسَهُمَا لِيُرِيَهُمَا سَوْآتِهِمَا ۗ إِنَّهُ يَرَاكُمْ هُوَ وَقَبِيلُهُ مِنْ حَيْثُ لَا تَرَوْنَهُمْ ۗ إِنَّا جَعَلْنَا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ لِلَّذِينَ لَا يُؤْمِنُونَ O children of Adam! let not the Shaitan cause you to fall into affliction as he expelled your parents from the garden, pulling off from them both their clothing that he might show them their evil inclinations, he surely sees you, he as well as his host, from whence you cannot see them; surely We have made the Shaitansto be the guardians of those who do not believe. (7:27) فَرِيقًا هَدَىٰ وَفَرِيقًا حَقَّ عَلَيْهِمُ الضَّلَالَةُ ۗ إِنَّهُمُ اتَّخَذُوا الشَّيَاطِينَ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِ اللَّهِ وَيَحْسَبُونَ أَنَّهُم مُّهْتَدُونَ A part has He guided aright and (as for another) part, error is justly their due, surely they took the Shaitans for guardians beside Allah, and they think that they are followers of the right (7:30) وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ كَانَ مِنَ الْجِنِّ فَفَسَقَ عَنْ أَمْرِ رَبِّهِ ۗ أَفَتَتَّخِذُونَهُ وَذُرِّيَّتَهُ أَوْلِيَاءَ مِن دُونِي وَهُمْ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ ۚ بِئْسَ لِلظَّالِمِينَ بَدَلًا And when We said to the angels: Make obeisance to Adam; they made obeisance but Iblis (did it not). He was of the jinn, so he transgressed the commandment of his Lord. What! would you then take him and his offspring for friends rather than Me, and they are your enemies? Evil is (this) change for the unjust. (18:50) So the Shaitan is addressed as the Wali other than Allah, instead of those who are appointed by Allah (the prophet and imams).. wasalam
  4. The translation of verse does not limit that Allah swt alone is Wali but the prophet and Imam Ali are also Wali: Yusuf Ali Your (real) friends are (no less than) Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- those who establish regular prayers and regular charity, and they bow down humbly (in worship). Shakir Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow. The following verse along with hadith are sufficient evidences for the correct understanding about the prophet saaw and Imam Ali AS: Yusuf Ali As to those who turn (for friendship) to Allah, His Messenger, and the (fellowship of) believers,- it is the fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph. (5:56) Shakir And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant. (5:56) wasalam
  5. I disagree with you. The discussion on this thread conducted so far is entirely based on the verses of quran and the relevant hadiths. I have mentioned my view coming from hadith and duly verified by the verses of quran like the link is given below: The quran does mention to ponder over the verses like the one given below: كِتَابٌ أَنزَلْنَاهُ إِلَيْكَ مُبَارَكٌ لِّيَدَّبَّرُوا آيَاتِهِ وَلِيَتَذَكَّرَ أُولُو الْأَلْبَابِ [This is] a blessed Book which We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], that they might reflect upon its verses and that those of understanding would be reminded. (38:29) wasalam
  6. For matter of hadith rejecters i have the following response from the Quran please. wasalam
  7. What is your point brother? I do not see any thing in those verses relevant to the discussion on Ahl albaayt. AS wasalam
  8. Marvelous words that expose that who are not saved but drowned ones
  9. These are true statement based on hadith as we are not hadith rejecters.
  10. Also i like to add the following verses to confirm that wives are excluded from the verse of purification: (last part 33:33) There is no permanent relation of wives with the prophet saaww: O Prophet, say to your wives, "If you should desire the worldly life and its adornment, then come, I will provide for you and give you a gracious release. (33:28) The following two vesres also clarify the view: وَمَن يَقْنُتْ مِنكُنَّ لِلَّهِ وَرَسُولِهِ وَتَعْمَلْ صَالِحًا نُّؤْتِهَا أَجْرَهَا مَرَّتَيْنِ وَأَعْتَدْنَا لَهَا رِزْقًا كَرِيمًا And whoever of you devoutly obeys Allah and His Messenger and does righteousness - We will give her her reward twice; and We have prepared for her a noble provision. The matter of threat coming from Allah swt for wives: يَا نِسَاءَ النَّبِيِّ مَن يَأْتِ مِنكُنَّ بِفَاحِشَةٍ مُّبَيِّنَةٍ يُضَاعَفْ لَهَا الْعَذَابُ ضِعْفَيْنِ ۚ وَكَانَ ذَٰلِكَ عَلَى اللَّهِ يَسِيرًا O wives of the Prophet, whoever of you should commit a clear immorality - for her the punishment would be doubled two fold, and ever is that, for Allah , easy. (33:30) And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as [was] the display of the former times of ignorance. (33:33 first part) yet few wives have been found disobeying this verse of quran, (by coming out of the house for battle with imam Ali AS) so they are not covered under the last part of this verse. There is no such threat or warning from the group mentioned as ahl alabaayt as who are just purified indivudals. wasalam
  11. The Quran mentions the word Al-bayat and it is not an ordinary house. There are 14 infallible as per verses of purification covered in that verse and covred in that Al-baayt. We have hadith mentioning the names of those 14 infallible and Quran provides the confirmation. Also we are not hadith rejecters.. Quran mentions in many verses to ponder over the verses of quran instead of keeping our eyes close from the truth. wasalam
  12. The research based on the information as mentioned in hadith are proven by rational and numeric of Quran thus leading to the true path through the 12 imams and 14 infallible. These are undeniable proof for a mindful one. There is no alternate path leading to true way of Allah swt as required by Quran. wasalam
  13. Were you not who did not like to read and go through the knowledge given in quran by the rational and numerical analysis as presented (by me) in the other thread for 1 out of 73 sect? Now you like to get rational basis for immama , strange and contradictory statements from your side. waslam
  14. if you were mentioning some one else then you should have quoted his name not mine instead, but your last post was quoting me by your mistake. wasalam
  15. perfect muslim

    Thanks for your sincere advice
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