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  1. الحمد لله أشهد أن لا إله إلا الله وحده لا شريك له واشهد أن محمدا عبده ...

  2. Janali said that The Holy Prophet (SA) had said that during the night of 15th Shaban the Almighty takes decisions in the matters of sustenance, life and death and welfare of the people. what is the evidence for this? Allaah Has already Willed everything and no "decisions" are left to be made. This is because Allaah already Knows, it is not that He didn't Know and now He will determine something so that only now will come to know. Therefore if He already Knows, He has already Willed it - His Will is not contrary to His Knowledge. The Holy Prophet therefore did NOT say the above and if you are quoting an authentic saying there must be a translation error that would give another understanding However this night and day (15th Sha^baan) is still auspicious - i am not saying this is false Momin
  3. Knowledge Of God

    my mistake !!! no, it is you i meant who had the correct gist of the question
  4. Knowledge Of God

    Salaam The Persian Shah has got the correct gist of the question. I await the knowledge of those better than me to help inshaa'Allaah! Momin
  5. Assalamu ^alaykum in discussion somebody said to me that it might be said how do you know that the one you worship, the One who testifies about Himself that there is no god but He and the One who sent The Prophets, is not ignorant Himself? And he means by this to say how does God Know that He is God and there is no other god? And he is saying how does He Know that He was not created by the real God who then chose to conceal himself completely and stop himself being known such that the one who then created the worlds and sent the Prophets does not know about His own reality? How might you answer this question? The way I see it, it is asking how do you intellectually prove that it is impossible there should be anything outside the Knowledge of who we call God, such that there could not be another. I thought this might either go in The Thinker's Discourse or the athiests section but I put it here because the former is a slow process and the latter means I've opened this discussion to the athiests which I do not intend to Thanks Mo'min
  6. Assalaamu ^alaykum I consulted a Muslim psychiatrist and this is what I have learnt: a person is not liable if people in general would not deem that one to be liable. An example is if you have a blood disease and you donate blood and through your blood others get the disease, then there is blame on you. Even in this case there is no blame on you if you did not know you carried a blood disorder or if you did not know that donating blood would transmit the disorder (e.g. a child might not realise it or some adults depending on their knowledge on these matters) regarding everyday germs, you are not more likely to pick something up compared to your peers and you are not more likely to pass something on compared to your peers. Whatever Allaah Eternally Willed to be shall be and whatever He Eternally Willed not to be shall not be - the burden of responsibility such that you would be blamed is not yours, you are not to blame. First understand that ultimately catching or curing a diesaes is not in your control at all. If you understand it is not in your control you can also understand it is not your responsibility to lok at the minute details. Even from the rules of cleanliness in Islaam if we take an extreme example - if one, using his pure hand, touches excrement but is not sure if any moisture transfered and cannot see with a normal eye any traces of excrement on his hand he is not obliged to think he has made his hand impure, it is rather still considered pure! Now the concept of germs is thousands of folds less obvious, no you do not need to worry. AND even if one was to become ill it would not be your fault because (a) you didn't know and were under no obligation to confirm the existance of germs by popular opinion and (B) you do not cause disease, rather Allaah does. Have you heard that here is an established link between cigerette smoking and lung cancer? yet how many people there are that smoke for years in large amounts but do not get lung cancer! - short answer is "no!"your cousin who shares needles is indeed at a risk of having heptitis or HIV or other blood borne diseases. You can assess how much of a risk he is, but you don't need to tailgate him and seek out each individual he has contact with. your duty would be to tell him about the risk he has put himself in and the risk he might put others in. something like HIV doesn't just spread by skin touching or sharing food/water or living together or something like everyday interaction might be. HIV spreads through sexual contact or blood contact eg sharing needles or contaminated blood donation for instance. your duty if you like would be to tell him what risk he has put himself in and what risk he might put others in e.g. his wife/potential wife. you are then not responsible for what he does after. if you come to know by chance (not investigation) that he is going to have sexual contact with someone for instance, you might decide to tell that person if he doesn't do it himself. you are not responsible for his actions or what he passes on. The Holy Prophet gave us the message of Islaam, he reached out to as many people as possible. He is not responsible for those peole who still chose to disbelieve or those who heard less or more of the message. He is not responsible for the disbelievers in today's society or those that will come. Ultimately Allaah is All-Powerful and The One Who's Will cannot be deterred. You do not have this ability and hence the responsibility is not yours hope this helps momin
  7. God Is Not Attributed With Lieing

    I agree with Zareeen however this line of reasoning takes validity only once faith is established, as you suggest yourself. I can't agree with eThErEaL. To say/believe such a thing about God is indeed blasphemy and would take one out of Islaam. The Companions narrated that The Holy Prophet used to teach them the matters of belief and then taught them The Qur'an and The Qur'an would add to their belief. In other words the interpreter of The Qur'an must be one coming at it from the correct angle with a knowledge of the correct belief. We know and see all the time how any tom Richard and harry manipulates the words of The Qur'an to justify their terrible and unislamic actions (both Muslims and non-Muslims alike) and they can do so and lead many astray because they interpret it and others listen whilst not having the correct belief. Now that is an arabic speaker, what about the one who doesn't speak arabic and relies on a translation (which is actually an interpretation as the "translator" chooses a word meaning of the many possible ones - evident from the many versions of translation). the one who doesn't know arabic is doubly further away! On what authority do you translate as you have? the meanings of words are known by definitions given by the language and by the religion and are given a meaning appropriate to the context addressed. I am not an Arabic speaker so i can't give you specific comments. the verb "makara" can mean deceive as well as plan as well and plot and so on and other meanings. Arguably many are not appropriate meanings for God verbatim. and many in context of the passage would be rhetorical, hyperbolic or metaphorical to make a point e.g. When Allaah Aks in Qur'an "Is there a doubt about the existance of God?" - this isn't actually asking a question, it is rhetorical and is making a bold statement that 'certainly there is no doubt at all about the existance of God!' I can give an example from one word I do know "Jabbaar" - it is a word whne used in the ordinary sense and when applied to creation has a negative meaning e.g. tyrannical, compelling, unjust and might describe an unsavory ruler or a tyrannical leader. But "Al-Jabbaar" is a name of Allaah and it means something else for Him. The language and the religion define "Al-Jabbaar" as The One for Whom nothing happens in His dominion except what He willed. It is therefore an expressioon of His Will which we cannot surpass not an expression of tyranny or being unjust! Likewise lieing and deceiving is not attributed to God. Other people do it e.g. satan, and had Allaah not allowed it in HIs Will it would not have happened, but Allaah Guides to what is good and does not deceive the one seeking Him. Lieing would be not giving the believer Paradise and not giving the disbeliever Hell for instance. That is not how it will be. Deceiving would be coaxing one to do good deeds all his life as a believer and then telling him you're going to Hell anyway. This would be deceiving because Allaah tells us that such a person who believes and does good and strives in that will be working towards Paradise, not towards Hell. The Promise of Allaah is True. The disbelievers plan, plot, deceive, scheme as they will, but none of their scheming can overtake what Allaah Wills. They think they can decieve God but rather God cannot be deceived. they think they are deceiving others whilst they are deceiving none but themselves. Again this is not the same as God portraying Wrath. We have been told how to avoid His punishment and how to receieve His rewards. Wrath is not deceit. My initial question was therefore to help me to prove through rational arguments that whatever God revealed to us is truth and not falsehood. One argument I accept is that once the truthfulness of The Messengers is established this is a proof. Another proof is that of occam's razor. I was looking for something even more concrete and I look forward to an extension of the argument that Ya Aba 3abdillah was trying to make. Mo'min
  8. I've heard about the latter but i didn't know about the former. more details on this link. but if someone can find something more concrete that you be great. it is also possible that some of you have grandparents that could testify to this? please do ask and tell us :) miracle in the grave
  9. What is definition of "Lie"?

    Assalamu^Alaykum Just for the sake of the readers Prophet Ibraheem ^alayhis-salaam did not lie. Prophets do not lie. When asked by the people whether he broke the idols, Prophet Ibraheem did not say "yes" or "no" - saying "no" would have been lieing - but he did not say that. But it was said that he said "rather! someone did it (if you translate fa^alahu as a passive participle), or even if you translate it as "he did it" the commentators have stated it means the atrociousness of the fact that people worship an idol made Prophet Ibraheem do it when he saw the idol. It is like saying when someone provokes you and you act (e.g. hit out) and in response you say "he made me do it" or "he started it" "he did it!", even though the actual act was done by you, this is not lieing, but rather it conveys a further understanding and motivation behind an action truthfully! Far is Ibraheem ^alayhis-salaam from being a liar. May Allaah Protect us. Mo'min
  10. God Is Not Attributed With Lieing

    Assalamu ^Alaykum I'll address each response which I will parapharse instead of quote in order to express how I have understod what you are saying so that you can either correct me on that or understand better my responses: Re: Zareen - That The Prophets were truthful and came with exemplery characters and flawless messages and that if there was a lie then such Prophets would not have been sent. query - God is All-Powerful, there is no way we can therefore make such a discrimination if it were not for the fact that God is not attributed with lieing - so how can we prove that God is not attributed with lieing Re: Yaa Abaa 3abdillah - lieing is irrational. we understand lies from truth from a reference point that is inbuilt in human logic, whose origin is from regulator of universal truths I think I am looking for something along these lines, please kindly clarify it further. In other words you are saying it is intellectually impossible that God should be attributed with lieing and that being truthful is a definition of God. Please expand and explain how this is. Re: eThErEaL - please be careful with your wording because to actually say "ofcourse God lies, decieves, misguides people" is kufr. God created satan yes, but He told us not to follow him. Then you mention God's 'Wrath', but this I feel is an unrealted concept. perhaps I have not understood you well enough so forgive me :( Re: .inshAllah. - Occam's razor argument I like this concept too and it would clear up many a debate. What we need to do is prove that the theory of occam's razor MUST be correct. How can we lift occam's razor from a status of theory to a status of fact? Mo'min
  11. Assalamu ^alaykum I'm sorry to hear you feel hollow. why do you think this is? maybe think about what it is you first went out to achieve, have you achieved it? Was becoming shi^ah and achievement that you initially sought or is it something that has happened on the way. If it is the latter then ofcourse you would still feel follow because your initial yearning was not fulfilled. What was your initial yearning? I have to say I feel exactly the same. Mo'min
  12. Assalamu^alaykum Consider if hypothetically it was put to you by an athiest or a non-Muslim the question: "How do you know God did not lie in the revelation?" How would you go about proving with intellectual proofs that God does not lie and that it is defined by His being God that He is not attributed with lieing? Comments and "proofs" would be really appreciated! Mo'min
  13. Prayer Times

    ^ ^ ^ :blush: I do apologise
  14. Prayer Times

    Brother, if you have believed and know Islaam to be true then I would advise you to embrace Islaam immediately before learning about other matters like prayer and fasting and so on. To do this you must know in your mind and believe with your heart while speaking the testifications of faith that "There is no god but Allaah* and that Muhammad** is The Messenger of Allaah* *say "God" if you cannot pronounce "Allaah" correctly ** say "Abul Qaasim" (strong 'Q') if you cannot pronounce "Muhammad" correctly; or say "Abul Gaasim" if you cannot say Abul Qaasim or Muhammad correctly. - i.e. all three names refer to the same man: Muhammad the son of Abdullah, from the tribe of Quraysh and a descendent of Prophet Abraham This is because the sooner you become (and remain) a Muslim, the sooner the threat of Hell Fire and enduring punishment will be lifted from you and the promise of everlasting Paradise will be awarded to you despite not knowing how to pray etc. However being a non-Muslim who has learnt to pray and fast etc would not benefit from it at all or be saved. You are obliged to pray whether you are Muslim or not, the only difference is that non-Muslims do not accept there is such an obligation at all. i.e. it is not that prayer is compulsory upon you because you become a Muslim and that while you are not a Muslim you are saved fom this obligation or the sins incurred by missing it.
  15. New Shia

    Thank you Is this the consensus of The Shi^ah beliefs or are there variations?
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