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  1. What this means is that we are no longer UNDER the Law, Meaning we don't have to accomplish the hundreds of Laws the Jews had to follow to be HOLY in the sight of God. The same laws which the Jewish people were unable to accomplish except for Jesus which never sinned. That is why God sent his Son to put the Law in our hearts through his new covenant. This does not give us a free passage to sin, It means that God dwells with us and punishes us as children when we disobey and sin.... It is even prophesied in the Hebrew books that God was going to give us this new Covenant. This is what Jesus was meaning when he said this is the NEW TESTAMENT(Covenant). Jeremiah 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: 33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
  2. The verse you are referring to Jesus is reprimanding Peter because he was thinking Earthly when Jesus was speaking spiritually. Jesus was speaking of his death and resurrection. While Peter heard it and said, "Lord this will not happen to you" If a friend of ours was to say he will die, we probably would have acted like Peter, but he did not understand God's plan, that Jesus was SENT as a sacrificial LAMB to fulfill prophecy and die for forgiveness of sin. That is why Jesus said he was going to die and rise again. Jesus rebuked the spirit of satan who put it in Peters heart to say "You will not die" the same words which are said in your book. Jesus had to drink of the cup being God's Sacrificial LAMB. The cup throughout the Bible represents God's wrath, which Jesus had to face on the cross to cover our sins.....The forgiveness of sin through Jesus death is something that Allah is trying to steal from you.. If he steals this from you, your eternity is set and your sins won't be forgiven as long as you don't believe Jesus died and rose again. Matthew 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
  3. I never said Daniel has the word sheol. I just quoted Daniel to show the afterlife that there is judgement for the righteous and wicked, and the wicked get punished with eternal abhorrence. The other verses I showed do use the word sheol for instance, Psalms 116:3, Deuteronomy 13:21-22 and Isaiah 14:15. "and burns the lowest part of sheol" I quoted this verse in Deuteronomy just to show sheol is a very hot place. I also quoted verses showing that Lucifer is brought down there and there exist pain and sorrow. You said sheol is a place of rest these scriptures say otherwise.
  4. I showed you from Old Testament the word sheol used to show a place with burning, fire, pain, sorrow and where Lucifer was cast down to. You said it just meant rest there. I showed you as well through scriptures, how the old testament speaks about eternal life for the righteous and eternal abhorrence for the wicked.
  5. All the verses I quoted use the word sheol.
  6. You were telling me what Jews used to believe. Some believed in Resurrection and some in just dying and that's it. I am not looking at their beliefs but what God says through his inspired word. So far we know this about sheol. 1 - Fire exist in sheol which burns, meaning that it's very HOT down there, this agrees with what the rich man experienced in hell as he was asking Lazarus to put water in his tongue. 2 - There exist pains in sheol and Sorrow as described in Isaiah... If it's peaceful there, then how is that possible? 3 - Lucifer was brought down there to the pit of sheol. Just by these points, you can get rid of your idea that sheol is peaceful. Then Daniel shows what happens in the afterlife, which agree to the fact that when a wicked person dies he will have punishment after death as he will have everlasting abhorrence and shame. It doesn't matter to me if it's 500 BC it backs Jesus words and predates gospels.
  7. I am not talking about what people BELIEVE, but what scriptures state if you know history the Jewish beliefs is what got them in trouble so many times with God. Did you read the scriptures I gave you? They plainly say there's a fire in the lowest part of sheol and burning. In psalms there exist pain in sheol and Lucifer is also brought there to the sides of the pit. I never disagreed there was peace like I said there is a reason why there will be peace as the righteous were sent to Abraham's Bosom before being rescued and brought to heaven, while the wicked were taken to be punished like the rich man. Look at this Daniel 12::2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt. The Hebrew word for contempt is abhorrence, or repulse. This goes with how they will be separated from God eternally. You also proved a point to me Your pomp and the music of your harps Have been brought down to Sheol; Maggots are spread out as your bed beneath you And worms are your covering.' You call having maggots and worms covering you peaceful ?
  8. I would not say it's not true. Like we mentioned before there's a place of torment where the wicked are sent like the rich man and a place called Abrahams bosom which the righteous were sent to rest until Jesus freed them, and a gap separating both places in hell. If you look at Deuteronomy 13:21-22 God say that they have provoked him to anger with idols then God says a fire is kindled and shall burn to Sheol to the lowest. Then it says this in Psalms. Psalms 116:3 the sorrows of death compassed me, and the pains of hell(Sheol) gat hold upon me: I found trouble and sorrow. Also in Isaiah 14:15 God talks about Lucifer being brought down to sheol and the sides of the pit. Not exactly a place of rest if you read these verses. Sheol has burning, pain, sorrow and there are pits down there where God sends Lucifer.
  9. A church and congregation cannot save a person. You are saved by believing in the Lord Jesus and your sins have remission by believing he died and rose again the third day. And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. Hebrews 9:22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
  10. People that never heard of Jesus that would be amazing to find. Yet if lets say for the sake of argument there does exist in some remote island people that have never heard the name of Jesus. I can't say much about their fate but I believe God will somehow find a way to reach them and deliver the true message of salvation to them, maybe through witnesses or some other way. God loves every person with God all things are possible. The Jews that believed in the God of Abraham before Jesus came followed the Levitical Laws of animal sacrifices to temporary cover their sins and looked at Messiah who was coming and his prophecies. They are the ones who Jesus freed after his resurrection when he led captivity captive and took them to heaven. The ones who go to Hell are those that know the truth but refuse to believe in it. They are the ones who see but are spiritually blind.
  11. With that mentality anyone can come to God. A person can open a window and pray to an elephant and say they worship God and you'll agree with it right? What about the worshipers of Baal in the Old Testament in which Elijah showed that his God was the true God. Where the worshipers of Baal worshiping the true God? We have to know what is real through God's word in which Jesus states he is the ONLY way to God. We have to go to God through his true teachings, which I know is through believing Jesus died for your sins and rose again on the third day. As a Christian you should know there is no other way to God and there is no other way to have your sins forgiven. If you do not believe Jesus died and shed his blood for your sins and rose again you will die in sin.
  12. From my understanding there was a place of rest near hell described by Jesus. It's the story of the rich man and Lazarus the beggar. Lazarus died and went to a place of rest and the rich man died after and went straight to hell. There was a gap that would separate both places. They could speak and see each other but where far apart. The rich man was in torment in hell begging Abraham and Lazarus for mercy. Meanwhile, Lazarus and Abraham was in a place with no torment being comforted. I believe that's the place Jesus descended after his crucifixion to bring out the captives from that place of rest to Heaven. This was made possible by Jesus sacrifice which was the final sacrifice that removes sin. It's so interesting to note of the events that happened after Jesus was crucified Matt 27:50-54 “Jesus, when he had cried again with a loud voice, yielded up the ghost. And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent; And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.” The veil is incredibly significant. The Veil was a curtain that separated the holy of holies from the Holy Place. This signified that the veil was no longer needed and now men could come directly to God. The separation between man and God because of sin was gone, because of Jesus sacrifice. That's why the saints walked the Earth again and then went to Heaven.
  13. I agree, before Jesus the animal blood sacrifices only covered the righteous in torah for a while it was only temporary. The Old Testament sacrifices pointed to the final sacrifice by Jesus on the cross that would remove sins from the World. That's why Ephesians says when he ascended high he led captivity captive. Which could explain why the bodies of the SAINTS came back to life after Jesus crucifixtion. Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many
  14. Thank you for your input Islamic Salvation. From reading the bible I see that God first came to give his message (good news)to the lost sheep of the tribe of Israel so then the Jews would in return give the message to the gentiles and knowledge of Messiah and his atonement sacrifice would be Worldwide to everyone. Yet the Jews rejected messiah and spiritual blindness is happening to them as a result of their disobedience until a future time, yet through that time God went to show the message to the gentiles. I believe we are seeing many now come to recognize their messiah in this present time. Romans 11:11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Jesus told this story which is about the situation. Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. In the banquet which God set up the original invited guests (jews) refused to come, and they mistreated and killed the servants who came with the invitation (prophets) So God avenged their death and told his servants to go into the highway(gentiles) and have them come so the wedding would be filled. Jesus spoke about how much he wanted Jerusalem to come to him but they would not. Luke 13:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate. 39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
  15. I said it was limited as in I don't find much of anything about it. It's mostly in Daniel and Nehemiah.
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