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  1. Genghis Khan: fact or fiction?!

    Salam. These scholars sound like people who say that you can't be sure that Jesus pbuh and Muhammad pbuhap were real. It sounds like conspiracy with no proof when there is proof that he existed. Genghis Khan lived in 12th and 13th century and there are historical information and facts for people that lived 13 centuries before him or even longer. There is enough information on his life and historians from different parts of the world and universities agree that Genghis Khan is not fictional person. p.s. just searched Nasser Purpirar and see that he is a revisionist historian.. he questions a lot of other historic events not just Genghis Khan.
  2. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-did-vikings-have-Allah-on-clothes/ar-AAtk0Sj?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp What makes Larsson's discovery so interesting is that it is the first time historic items mentioning Ali have ever been unearthed in Scandinavia. "The name Ali is repeated again and again beside Allah," she says. "I know Ali is highly revered by the largest Muslim minority group, the Shia, and have wondered if there is a connection."
  3. Flood and prophet nuh as

    salam alaykom brother. South Iraq was an elevated place for Noah pbuh and his people living in the low fertile valley before it was flooded with water. Author of the book writes: (If we want to now combine the above characteristics of the flood into one region that is in or around Iraq, the only region we would find is the fertile valley before water covered it, turning it into present day Gulf. Certainly, this is taking into consideration the fact that the region is low and contains elevated regions such as mountains. These regions represent its surroundings and islands, some of which are protruding from the gulf today, such as Bahrain...) (The amount of water that would have entered the valley from the sea due to the collapse of the natural dam of the Strait of Hormuz would be extremely vast. We can say that it formed waves like mountains as the Quran mentions. In addition, the present-day islands in the modern Gulf are nothing but the peaks of mountains that stood tall in this fertile valley before the collapse of the dam and the valley being filled with salt water. Therefore, the religious text that says that Noah's son wanted to take refuge on a mountain to protect himself from the water is corroborated, because he believed that it was an ordinary floods that was approaching, resulting from a rise in the level of the rivers that poured into the valley, such as the Tigris and the Euphrates...)
  4. Flood and prophet nuh as

    @M.IB (It is possible that the flood occurred in South of Iraq due to rain and torrents. This hypothesis concurs completely with the position of the region. The region falls between two rivers, below mountainous regions to its North. Nevertheless, a flood such as this remains limited, as it is difficult to imagine the floods of rivers or rain causing the eradication of all life forms in a particular region. There is a chance that some of them would have escaped, at least the ones that live on its edges. Such floods occur gradually rather than in one fell swoop, such as in the case of a breaking dam or a tsunami. In addition, the Quranic text's description that they are waves like mountains does not apply. It is also possible that the flood occurred in the valley located in Southern Iraq, which represents the modern Gulf before it was filled with water. This would have been the result of the rise in seawater level at the end of the last ice age and the collapse of the natural dam of the Strait of Hormuz. If we want to apply the Quranic text to flood that occurred in this valley a few thousand years ago, we find it to concur completely. The amount of water that would have entered the valley from the sea due to the collapse of the natural dam of the Strait of Hormuz would be extremely vast. We can say that it formed waves like mountains as the Quran mentions. In addition, the present-day islands in the modern Gulf are nothing but the peaks of mountains that stood tall in this fertile valley before the collapse of the dam and the valley being filled with salt water. Therefore, the religious text that says that Noah's son wanted to take refuge on a mountain to protect himself from the water is corroborated, because he believed that it was an ordinary floods that was approaching, resulting from a rise in the level of the rivers that poured into the valley, such as the Tigris and the Euphrates. The damage from such floods could be avoided by taking refuge in highlands, such as the mountains of the fertile valley. However, it did not cross their minds that it was different this time, and that the flood Noah-Utnapishtim-Ziusudra warned them about would be devastating, covering the mountains and filling the valley, whose area is equal to that of a country such as Iraq. ...The flood of Noah occurred nearly four thousand years before Christ, according to Biblical date. This view has even been adopted by interpreters of the Quran. The fertile valley was filled with salt water at the time, and the modern Gulf had already formed. This would mean that the location of the flood is Mesopotamia. Since the region was flat, the amount of water that could form a flood the size of the flood of Noah must have come from a large reservoir of water. This is why the Torah portrayed it as a flood that encompassed the entire planet Earth at a tremendous height. It has been explained that this hypothesis mentioned in present-day Torah conflicts with scientific, historica and geological facts. The other remaining possibility is that Noah and his people, whom we can call the ancestors of the Sumerians or the early Sumerians, used to live in the fertile valley, and that the flood occurred in the fertile valley (the modern Gulf). If this was the case, what determines the time of the flood would be the date when the valley was filled with water and the hydraulic jump of salt water occurred that perhaps swept vast areas of modern Southern Iraq. The valley was completely filled with water sometime between 15,000-8,000 B.C. Thus, what happened was the flooding of the valley, caused by the large amounts of water, which was made available by the melting of ice at the end of the ice age. This formed water springs pouring into the seas that, together with the water springs that also used to pour into the sea, led to a rise in seawater level until the natural dam collapsed and seawater entered the valley. It was possibly accompanied by rainwater and a rise of the river levels that used to pour into the valley from the other side. Therefore, the waters met in the valley and the flood and the hydraulic jump of water occurred until they covered regions of Southern Iraq. Subsequently, the water receded toward the valley or the modern Gulf again, and the ark anchored in order for the first journey of mankind to begin, which we learned about as it was recorded and written in Southern Iraq. (Then we opened the doors of Heaven with rain pouring down * and caused the earth to burst with springs, and the waters met for a matter already ordained.) Quran Chapter The Moon, 54:11-12 ) ) Also scientists have said some years ago that "lost civilization may have existed under the Gulf" - https://www.livescience.com/10340-lost-civilization-existed-beneath-persian-gulf.html
  5. Flood and prophet nuh as

    Salam brother @M.IB, it happened in where is present day Gulf (this is where Noah and his nation lived), it covered areas of Southern Iraq and the water receded toward the valley or the modern Gulf again. It is explained in the book I am reading, I will post some from it inshaAllah. (...The story of the flood in the Epic of Gilgamesh is no different than the previously mentioned Sumerian text. Here, as well, the flood is caused by divine wrath, while an ark is built to save Utnapishtim (Noah) and the believers. However, there are other important aspects to this text: There are clear indicators of the region in which Noah lived. It is a region close to the water or, more specifically, a reigon of reeds, as Utnapishtim's house is clearly built from reeds. In fact, in a clear text that will be mentioned later, Noah's ark was built from reeds. "O fence of reed! O wall of brick! Hear this, O fence! Pay heed, O wall! "Demolish the house, and build a boat!" In addition, the Epic of Gilgamesh mentions that the flood was caused by the collapse of a dam or dams: "Ninutra passing by, made the weirs [dams] overflow..." Moreover, the Epic of Gilgamesh mentions that the direction of the flood, or that of the flood's waves, wind and gusts, was from the south to the north. It also mentions that water covered the mountains, meaning that the region was surrounded by areas of elevation such that the water could cover these mountains. "All day long the South Wind blew..., blowing fast, submerging the mountain in water" (Kovacs 1989, 100) If we want to now combine the above characteristics of the flood into one region that is in or around Iraq, the only region we would find is the fertile valley before water covered it, turning it into present day Gulf. Certainly, this is taking into consideration the fact that the region is low and contains elevated regions such as mountains. These regions represent its surroundings and islands, some of which are protruding from the gulf today, such as Bahrain. Since the region before the flood was a valley filled with sweet water lakes, and the sweet water coming from the north used to pour into it, it is natural for it to have reeds. It is also natural for both the house of Noah and for his ark to be made from reeds, as it is clearly mentioned in the text that will follow. (Here author shows text from Epic of Gilgamesh showing that they were made from reeds) Before being covered by water, the environment of the fertile valley (present day Gulf) was suitable for the growth of different types of reed and trees, as the fertile valley was a large region with rivers and lakes. "Build a large ark, yet built it enteirely from reeds, And make the ark a safe heaven in the name of preserving life." Furthermore, the region where the flood occurred is Mesopotamia and its surroundings. It was entirely covered with vast amounts of water, such that no one survived except those who were abroad the ark with Noah. The ark was flowing, moving with the sea. In addition, from the texts, we find the ark was made from reeds, as well as that it was made over a short period of time, perhaps days, Further, it was large in size, at least in relation to the time period in which it was made. The region had contained and was surrounded by areas of elevation. The flood itself was caused by the collapse of a dam, with the water coming from south to the north. If we want to combine all the above with the scientific and historical data, the region of the flood can be narrowed down to the present day Gulf, before water covered it when the last ice age ended, the snow melted and the sea level rose. The Quranic story specifies an important issue that was mentioned previously, namely that the flood occurred in a region with mountains: (He said, "I will take refuge on a mountain to protect me from the water." [Noah] said, There is no protector today from the matter of God, except for whom He gives mercy." And the waves came between them, and he was among the drowned.) This raises an important question: How did the flood occur in the region of Southern Iraq, as confirmed through its historical mention by the Sumerians and Babylonians, given that that region is an alluvial plain? Where did the mountains in this flat region come from?! Therefore, we must search for a region with mountains that is contiguous with the valley of the two rivers or, actually, that represents its extension. The only suitable place with this combination of characteristics is the fertile valley we mentioned earlier, before it was covered by water and became present day Gulf. It is correct to consider this region southwards of Iraq. In addition, another issue in the Quranic story is that it describes its waves to be like mountains. (And it sailed with them through waves like mountains) This description does not seem suitable for a flood that occurs due to rain, because a flood like this one, in an open plain region, will not create waves like mountains. However, the Quranic statement is suitable for a flood that occurs as a result of a massive tsunami, or the collapse of a natural dam separating a depression from an ocean with tremendous amounts of water that can fill the depression with great speed, causing the creation of a major hydraulic jump and, consequently, creating waves like mountains. This is perfectly suitable for the collapse of the dam of the present day Strait of Hormuz and the filling of the valley with water, forming the modern Gulf. ) continues in next post inshaAllah
  6. Flood and prophet nuh as

    Salam @alidu78, Prophet Nuh pbuh and his nation lived where The Gulf is present today, which was a valley with flowing rivers. Experts say that The Gulf is geologically very young, having been formed around 15,000 years ago. There are animals like the marsupials for example which are unique for Australia and which were not on Nuh's pbuh ark and also fossas of Madagascar which are not found anywhere else in the world, so these animals from isolated areas couldn't reach Nuh and after being saved from the Ark to return to Australia and Madagascar as there is no recorded traces. Also all water in world is not enough to cover all land present. So it was not a worldwide flood, it was a flood which happened in the land where The Gulf is today, as sea levels rose at the end of last Ice age, water rushed in throught the Strait of Hormuz and filled the valley with water. Al-Judi can't be anywhere different than South Iraq, where Nuh pbuh and his ark landed and where he and his descendants started the Sumerian civilization which was a leap in human history as it was through the divine knowledge of the messengers sent by Allah.
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