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  1. Question for Shia brothers

    But I have seen in shia books giving reference from sunni sources. So what needed is ones hadith proves to be authentic it doesn't matter whether he shia or sunni.
  2. Question for Shia brothers

    Any hadith going against Quran becomes automatically unauthentic. Because Ahadith can't go against Quran.
  3. Question for Shia brothers

    Any hadith going against Quran becomes automatically unauthentic. Because Ahadith can't go against Quran.
  4. Sending Salutations

    If I properly understood your question is that sending salutation to Imam through what's up. Basically you have to recite the salutation. That is as under. "Allahumma Swali Ala Mohammadin wa Aali MOHHAMAD. " Reciting this constutes salutation.
  5. Your point is valid. But there is always intrusion of shiatan to mislead. Why despite narration of Prophet saww that the khalafah based on Prophecy will remain for 30 years then kings will come. Still muslims did bayath to yazeed and killed Hussain. What is your justification that Prophet saww narrated that Hussain is master of youth in jannah. Still muslims killed him that too considering it is righteous action.
  6. Understanding Muharram and 'Ashura

    Mr . Problem with you is that you misinterpret what I say. In non of comments I opposed the Azadari. Yes the way some shia present the martyrdom gives miss information. Even non muslim scholars and thinkers have learned great lessons and message from karbala. But some shia limit karbala only to mourning forgetting the real messages is unfortunate.
  7. That is OK. My only concern was interpreting the "ulilamar" as all those who have authority and following them is problematic.
  8. It is not me. Rather ulilamar of that time yazeed said Hussain rebelled against khalifa. How come common people recognise what must the stand of muslim. Abu Bakr used force against muslims in battle of Rida. People followed Abu Bakr's order. Ali used force against rebells of battle of camal and siffin. So yazeed too used force against Imam Hussain. Now how come common muslim recognise what true. They followed orders of ulilamar to crush a rebel. And I think fighting against a rebel is not sin.
  9. It is now today people say Hussain was right. But practically people followed order of ulilamar to kill a rebel.And there was no suspicion that they are doing unislamic act . So is there room for better understanding of the ulilamar. Are at most we can say that ayah of ulilamar was restricted only to the time period of Prophet saww. Or is this authority restricted to only religious affairs and not political .
  10. So there is some contradiction. There will be twelve khalifa amongst quresh and other narration indicate khilafah will last for 30 years. Basic question was ulilamar. So yazeed was ulilamar and Muslims followed his command to fight arebel Imam Hussain. Now recognising yazeed an ulilamar is not misinterpretation of the understanding of ulilamar.
  11. People gave allegiance to him. He appointed governors. He asked the allegiance from people. So he was practically khalifa. Yes latter was not khulafa Rashidoon. But definitely he was khalifa.
  12. People gave allegiance to him. He appointed governors. He asked the allegiance from people. So he was practically khalifa. Yes latter was not khulafa Rashidoon. But definitely he was khalifa.
  13. . He was both khalifa and ulilamar at that time Yes latter it was declared he was not guided khalifa. And today muslim do not accept him.. But at that time was khalifa and had authority.
  14. So yazeed was right. As yazeed asked Hussain allegiance. That Hussain denied .it led to fight and death of Hussain. And it is difficult to judge in political or state management issues to decide what truth. As yazeed told people that Hussain has rebelled a khalif. And the people agreed to fight and kill a rebellion.
  15. So people following yazeed was true. Because yazeed was having authority. Even some Ahadith indicates to follow amir. bbas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Whoever notices something which he dislikes done by his ruler, then he should be patient, for whoever becomes separate from the company of the Muslims even for a span and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-lslamic period of Ignorance (as rebellious sinners). (Fath-ul-Bari page 112, Vol. 16) حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو النُّعْمَانِ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ بْنُ زَيْدٍ، عَنِ الْجَعْدِ أَبِي عُثْمَانَ، حَدَّثَنِي أَبُو رَجَاءٍ الْعُطَارِدِيُّ، قَالَ سَمِعْتُ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ مَنْ رَأَى مِنْ أَمِيرِهِ شَيْئًا يَكْرَهُهُ فَلْيَصْبِرْ عَلَيْهِ، فَإِنَّهُ مَنْ فَارَقَ الْجَمَاعَةَ شِبْرًا فَمَاتَ، إِلاَّ مَاتَ مِيتَةً جَاهِلِيَّةً ‏"‏‏.‏ Reference : Sahih al-Bukhari 7054 In-book reference : Book 92, Hadith 7 USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 9, Book 88, Hadith 177 (deprecated numbering scheme) Report Error | Share
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