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  1. Just checked my email account, still no response from shiareformist for my email dated 22/4/2017 Seems like he is doing real hard-work in preparing his reply . It took my 25-30minutes to do the postmortem of his FAQ # 11.
  2. Verse 35: Al-Waseelah Chapter: 5, Verse: 35 عن ابي جعفر عليه السلام ... وقوله (اتقوا الله وابتغوا اليه الوسيلة) فقال تقربوا اليه بالامام From Abi Jafar (as), And regarding the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, "O those who believe. Do your duty to Allah, and seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35], Imam (as) said, "Seek nearness to him through the Imam (as)." [Source: Tafseer Al-Qummi, Vol. 1, Pg. 175] حدثنا أبو الفضل العلوى قال حدثنى سعيد بن عيسى الكربزى البصري عن ابراهيم بن الحكم بن ظهير عن ابيه عن شريك بن عبد الله عن عبد الاعلى الثعلبي عن ابى تمام عن سلمان الفارسىره عن امير المؤمنين عليه السلام في قول الله تبارك وتعالى قل كفى بالله شهيدا بينى وبينكم ومن عنده علم الكتاب فقال انا هو الذى عنده علم الكتاب و قد صدقه الله واعطاه الوسيلة في الوصية ولا تخلى امة من وسيلته إليه والى الله فقال يا ايها الذين آمنو اتقوا الله وابتغوا إليه والوسيلة Narrated to us Abu Al-Fazl Al-Alawi, from Saeed bin Isa Al-Karbazi Al-Basari, from Ibraheem bin Al-Hakam bin Zaheer, from his father, from Shareek bin abdullah, from Abdul Aa'la Al-Salabi, from Abi tamam, from Salman Al-Farasi from Amir Al-Momineen (as): Regarding the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, "Say: Allah is sufficient as a witness between me and you and whoever has knowledge of the Book" [13:43]. He (as) said, "I am the one who has the knowledge of the Book and Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has attested this and has given me (as the) Means (Al-Waseelah) in the commandment and has not left the community empty from the means towards Him (Imam) and towards Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. As He has said, "O those who believe. Do your duty to Allah, and seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35] [Source: Basaair Al-Darajaat, Vol. 5, Chapter. 1, Hadees. 21] ابن شهر اشوب، قال امیر المومنین : فی قوله تعالی وابتغوا إليه والوسيلة. انا وسیلته Ibn Shahr Ashoob, Amir Al-Momineen (as), regarding the saying, "Seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35] said, "I Am His Means." [Source: Tafseer Al-Burhaan, Vol. 2, Pg. 449-450 - Citing Al-Manaqib ]
  3. Well said brother, This analogy explains more than what you might have expected from it. Excellent indeed.
  4. Verse 35: Al-Waseelah Chapter: 5, Verse: 35 عن ابي جعفر عليه السلام ... وقوله (اتقوا الله وابتغوا اليه الوسيلة) فقال تقربوا اليه بالامام From Abi Jafar (as), And regarding the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, "O those who believe. Do your duty to Allah, and seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35], Imam (as) said, "Seek nearness to him through the Imam (as)." [Source: Tafseer Al-Qummi, Vol. 1, Pg. 175] حدثنا أبو الفضل العلوى قال حدثنى سعيد بن عيسى الكربزى البصري عن ابراهيم بن الحكم بن ظهير عن ابيه عن شريك بن عبد الله عن عبد الاعلى الثعلبي عن ابى تمام عن سلمان الفارسىره عن امير المؤمنين عليه السلام في قول الله تبارك وتعالى قل كفى بالله شهيدا بينى وبينكم ومن عنده علم الكتاب فقال انا هو الذى عنده علم الكتاب و قد صدقه الله واعطاه الوسيلة في الوصية ولا تخلى امة من وسيلته إليه والى الله فقال يا ايها الذين آمنو اتقوا الله وابتغوا إليه والوسيلة Narrated to us Abu Al-Fazl Al-Alawi, from Saeed bin Isa Al-Karbazi Al-Basari, from Ibraheem bin Al-Hakam bin Zaheer, from his father, from Shareek bin abdullah, from Abdul Aa'la Al-Salabi, from Abi tamam, from Salman Al-Farasi from Amir Al-Momineen (as): Regarding the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, "Say: Allah is sufficient as a witness between me and you and whoever has knowledge of the Book" [13:43]. He (as) said, "I am the one who has the knowledge of the Book and Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì has attested this and has given me (as the) Means (Al-Waseelah) in the commandment and has not left the community empty from the means towards Him (Imam) and towards Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. As He has said, "O those who believe. Do your duty to Allah, and seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35] [Source: Basaair Al-Darajaat, Vol. 5, Chapter. 1, Hadees. 21] ابن شهر اشوب، قال امیر المومنین : فی قوله تعالی وابتغوا إليه والوسيلة. انا وسیلته Ibn Shahr Ashoob, Amir Al-Momineen (as), regarding the saying, "Seek the means of approach to Him" [5:35] said, "I Am His Means." [Source: Tafseer Al-Burhaan, Vol. 2, Pg. 449-450 - Citing Al-Manaqib ]
  5. Chapter: 64, Verse: 2 هُوَ الَّذِي خَلَقَكُمْ فَمِنكُمْ كَافِرٌ وَمِنكُم مُّؤْمِنٌوَاللَّهُ بِمَا تَعْمَلُونَ بَصِيرٌ "It is He Who has created you; and of you are some that are Unbelievers, and some that are Believers: and Allah sees well all that you do" [64:2] مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ مَحْبُوبٍ عَنِ الْحَسَنِ بْنِ نُعَيْمٍ الصَّحَّافِ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع عَنْ قَوْلِ اللَّهِ عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ فَمِنْكُمْ كافِرٌ وَ مِنْكُمْ مُؤْمِنٌ فَقَالَ عَرَفَ اللَّهُ إِيمَانَهُمْ بِوَلَايَتِنَا وَ كُفْرَهُمْ بِهَا يَوْمَ أَخَذَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْمِيثَاقَ فِي صُلْبِ آدَمَ ع وَ هُمْ ذَر Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad from Ibn Mahboob, from Al-Hasan (Al-Husain) bin Naeem Al-Sahhaf who said: I asked Aba Abdillah (as) about the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì "And of you are some that are Unbelievers, and some that are Believers" [64:2]. Imam (as) said, "Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì knew their faith (Eeman) due to our Wilayat and knew their disbelief (Kufr) due to it (our Wilayat) on the day He took the covenant from them in the loins of Adam (as) and they were particles." [Source: Al-Kaafi, Vol.1, Pg. 413] All Narrators are trustworthy, Narration is Saheeh (Authentic). Narration is Hasan (Good) as per Allama Majlisi, See Mirat Al-Uqool, Vol. 5, Pg. 10 مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ يَحْيَى عَنْ أَحْمَدَ بْنِ مُحَمَّدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ مَحْبُوبٍ عَنِ الْحُسَيْنِ بْنِ نُعَيْمٍ الصَّحَّافِ قَالَ سَأَلْتُ أَبَا عَبْدِ اللَّهِ ع عَنْ قَوْلِهِ فَمِنْكُمْ كافِرٌ وَ مِنْكُمْ مُؤْمِنٌ فَقَالَ عَرَفَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ إِيمَانَهُمْ بِمُوَالاتِنَا وَ كُفْرَهُمْ بِهَا يَوْمَ أَخَذَ عَلَيْهِمُ الْمِيثَاقَ وَ هُمْ ذَرٌّ فِي صُلْبِ آدَمَ وَ سَأَلْتُهُ عَنْ قَوْلِهِ عَزَّ وَ جَلَّ أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَ أَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ فَإِنْ تَوَلَّيْتُمْ فَإِنَّما عَلى‏ رَسُولِنَا الْبَلاغُ الْمُبِينُ فَقَالَ أَمَا وَ اللَّهِ مَا هَلَكَ مَنْ كَانَ قَبْلَكُمْ وَ مَا هَلَكَ مَنْ هَلَكَ حَتَّى يَقُومَ قَائِمُنَا ع إِلَّا فِي تَرْكِ وَلَايَتِنَا وَ جُحُودِ حَقِّنَا وَ مَا خَرَجَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ ص مِنَ الدُّنْيَا حَتَّى أَلْزَمَ رِقَابَ هَذِهِ الْأُمَّةِ حَقَّنَا وَ اللَّهُ يَهْدِي مَنْ يَشَاءُ إِلَى صِرَاطٍ مُسْتَقِيم‏ Muhammad bin Yahya, from Ahmad bin Muhammad, from Ibn Mahboob, from Al-Husain bin Naeem Al-Sahhaf who said: I asked Aba Abdillah (as) about the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì "And of you are some that are Unbelievers, and some that are Believers" [64:2]. Imam (as) said, "Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì knew their faith (Eeman) due to our Wilayat and knew their disbelief (Kufr) due to it (our Wilayat) on the day He took the covenant from them in the loins of Adam (as) and they were particles." And I (narrator) asked Him (as) about the saying of Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì, "Obey Allah and the Messenger, but if you turn away, know that the only duty of Our Messenger is to clearly preach." [64:12]. Imam (as) said, "By Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì! None have been destroyed who were before you and none will be destroyed up-to the rising of our Qaim (atfs) but due to rejecting Our Wilayat and denial of Our rights. And the Prophet (saww) did not leave from the world untill He had obligated our rights upon the necks of this Ummah. And Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì guides whom He wishes towards the right path." [Source: Al-Kaafi, Vol.1, Pg. 426-427] All Narrators are trustworthy, Narration is Saheeh (Authentic). See Mirat Al-Uqool, Vol. 5, Pg. 91
  6. Another example: Prophet Nuh's dua in Qur'an: Surah Nooh, Verse 28: رَّبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَلِوَالِدَيَّ وَلِمَن دَخَلَ بَيْتِيَ مُؤْمِنًا وَلِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَالْمُؤْمِنَاتِ وَلَا تَزِدِ الظَّالِمِينَ إِلَّا تَبَارًا My Lord! forgive me and my parents and him who enters my house believing, and the believing men and the believing women; and do not increase the unjust in aught but destruction! (English - Shakir) Chapter: 71, Verse 28 - Entering into the house of the Prophet (saww) محمد بن يعقوب: عن عدة من أصحابنا، عن أحمد بن محمد بن عيسى، عن ابن فضال، عن المفضل بن صالح، عن محمد بن علي الحلبي، عن أبي عبد الله (عليه السلام) ، في قوله عز وجل: رَبِّ اغْفِرْ لِي وَلِوالِدَيَّ وَلِمَنْ دَخَلَ بَيْتِيَ مُؤْمِناً : «إنما يعني الولاية، من دخل في الولاية دخل في بيت الأنبياء (عليهم السلام)، وقوله تعالى: إِنَّما يُرِيدُ اللَّهُ لِيُذْهِبَ عَنْكُمُ الرِّجْسَ أَهْلَ الْبَيْتِ وَيُطَهِّرَكُمْ تَطْهِيراً (٣) يعني الأئمة (عليهم السلام) وولايتهم، من دخل فيها دخل في بيت النبي (صلى الله عليه وآله) A number of our people have narrated from Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Isa from ibn Faddal from al-Mufaddal ibn Salih from Muhammad ibn Ali al-Halabi; From Aba Abd Allah Imam Sadiq (as), who has said the following: "About the words of Allah, the Most Majestic, and the Most Gracious, "Lord, forgive me, my parents, the believers who have entered my home believing" [71:28], the Imam (as) said, It means Wilayah (leadership with divine authority). Whoever enters into (accepts) Wilayah has entered the home of the prophets (as). And the saying of Allah (as), "People of the house, Allah wants to remove all kinds of uncleanliness from you and to purify you thoroughly."[33:33] It means the Imam's (as) and their Wilayah. Whoever enters into (accepts) the Wilayah, has entered the house of the Holy Prophet (saww)" [Source: al-Kafi, Vol. 1, Pg. 423]
  7. Verse: 75 - AhlulBait (as) dint prostrate to Adam (as) Verse: 75 قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ ۖ أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ Eblis, what prevented you from prostrating before what I have created with My own hands? Was it because of your pride or are you one of those who are exalted?' [38:75] حدّثنا عبد الله بن محمد بن عبد الوهاب عن أبي الحسن محمد بن أحمد القواريري، عن أبي الحسين محمد بن عمّار، عن إسماعيل بن توبة، عن زياد بن عبد الله البكائي، عن سليمان بن الأعمش، عن أبي سعيد الخدري، قال: كنّا جلوساً مع رسول الله صلّى الله عليه وآله إذ أقبل إليه رجل فقال يا رسول الله، أخبرني عن قول الله عزّ وجلّ لابليس: (أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أمْ كُنْتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ) فمَن هم يا رسول الله الّذين هم أعلى من الملائكة؟ قال رسول الله صلّى الله عليه وآله: أنا وعليّ وفاطمة والحسن والحسين، كنّا في سرادق العرش نسبّح الله وتسبّح الملائكة بتسبيحنا قبل أن يخلق الله عزّ وجلّ آدم بألفي عام. فلمّا خلق الله عزّ وجلّ آدم، أمر الملائكة أن يسجدوا له، ولم يأمرنا بالسجود فسجدت الملائكة كلّهم إلاّ إبليس فانّه أبى ولم يسجد. فقال الله تبارك وتعالى: (أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أمْ كُنْتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ) عنى من هؤلاء الخمسة المكتوبة أسماؤهم في سرادق العرش Abdullah bin Mohammed bin Abdul-Wahab narrated to us from Abu al-Hasan Mohammed bin Ahmed al-Qawariri from Abu al-Hussein Mohammed bin Ammar from Ismaeel bin Tawba from Ziyad bin Abdullah al-Bukaai from Sulaiman bin al-Amish that Abu Saeed al-Khidri related: We were sitting with the Prophet (s) when a man came and asked him: "O Allah's Messenger, Allah says: 'Eblis, what prevented you from prostrating before what I have created with My own hands? Was it because of your pride or are you one of those who are exalted?' [38:75] Who are those exalted ones whose ranks are higher than the angels'?" The Prophet (s) answered: Those are Ali, Fatima, al-Hasan, al-Hussein, and I. We were in the pavilion of the Divine Throne praising Allah. The angels were imitating us. That was two thousand years before the creation of Adam. When He created Adam, Allah, Powerful and Exalted is He, ordered the angels to prostrate themselves before him. Allah did not include us in this order. All of the angels therefore prostrated except Eblis who rejected to prostrate. Referring to the five individuals whose names are recorded on the pavilion of the Divine Throne, Allah said to Eblis, 'Was it because of your pride or are you one of those who are exalted? [Source: Fazail ush Shia, Sheikh Sadooq, Hadees.7]
  8. What is Lawhin-Mahfooz? 85:21-22, What is kitabim Maknoon? 56:77-78, even the ummul kitab contains the Quran as well. You can see chapter waqia verse 77-78. Surah Muhammad, Verse 30: وَلَوْ نَشَاءُ لَأَرَيْنَاكَهُمْ فَلَعَرَفْتَهُم بِسِيمَاهُمْ وَلَتَعْرِفَنَّهُمْ فِي لَحْنِ الْقَوْلِ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ أَعْمَالَكُمْ And if We please We would have made you know them so that you would certainly have recognized them by their marks and most certainly you can recognize them by the intent of (their) speech; and Allah knows your deeds. (English - Shakir) Surah Al-Anaam, Verse 59: وَعِندَهُ مَفَاتِحُ الْغَيْبِ لَا يَعْلَمُهَا إِلَّا هُوَ وَيَعْلَمُ مَا فِي الْبَرِّ وَالْبَحْرِ وَمَا تَسْقُطُ مِن وَرَقَةٍ إِلَّا يَعْلَمُهَا وَلَا حَبَّةٍ فِي ظُلُمَاتِ الْأَرْضِ وَلَا رَطْبٍ وَلَا يَابِسٍ إِلَّا فِي كِتَابٍ مُّبِينٍ And with Him are the keys of the unseen treasures-- none knows them but He; and He knows what is in the land and the sea, and there falls not a leaf but He knows it, nor a grain in the darkness of the earth, nor anything green nor dry but (it is all) in a clear book. (English - Shakir) How to cook is your matter, Allah has revealed the Al-Maidah & the Mun o Salwa from the heavens. This objection is ridiculous indeed. Every Allama or scholar have to explain verse 6:59 before claiming that the Book does not contain knowledge of everything. Ok, so you believe that the historical call of salooni was a fabricated thing, a lie. There were no rasikhoona fil ilm, no one have the knowledge of the book? WOW, You are the shia-reformist. Welldone.
  9. @Ali_Hussain, What is the knowledge of ghaib? Everything has been mentioned in Kitabim-Mubeen as per 6:59 except one thing i.e., the timing of hour or sa'ah. The following are taken from www.imamreza.net Source: Ain-al-Hayat, By: Allama Muhammad Baqir Majlisi Then the Imam (as) said, “Allah has taught two Ism al-Azam (Miraculous Words) to Prophet ‘Isa (as), which caused the miracles credited to him. Allah taught four Ism al-Azam to Prophet Musa (as), eight to Prophet Ibrahim (as), fifteen to Prophet Nooh (as) and twentyfive to prophet Adam (as). There are 73 Ism al-Azam in all, and our Prophet (S) has been informed of 72. There is one Ism al-Azam, about which Allah has not imparted the knowledge to anyone!” Imam ‘Ali Naqi (as) narrates that Allah has 73 Ism al-Azam out of which only one was known to Asif bin Barqiah through which he was able to fetch the Throne of Bilqis in the time taken to wink the eyes. We, the Ahl-ul-Bayt have the knowledge of 72 Ism al-Azam! There is one Ism al-Azam of which, none other than Allah has the knowledge. Imam Muhammad Al-Baqir (as) said that the staff of Prophet Musa (as) was with prophet Adam (as), then it came down to Prophet Shoeb (as) and then to prophet Musa (as). The staff is now in our possession. It is still fresh and green, as if, it has just been separated from the tree. If talked to, the staff gives replies. This staff will reach the Last Imam Mahdi (as), from hand to hand. The Last Imam Mahdi (as) will throw the staff towards his enemies and it would turn into a serpent and swallow them.” Imam Ja’far As-Sadiq (as) says, “The Tablets of Musa (as) and his Staff are with us. We are the inheritors of the Prophets (S).” Imam Muhammad Al-Baqir (as) says, “When the Last Imam Mahdi (as) will appear in Mecca, it will be ordered that no person should carry any eatables with him. The Imam (as) will have one Tablet of Musa (as) on his camel’s back. With the help of this tablet food and other necessary things will become available, whenever required.”
  10. @Ali_Hussain, @Shaykh Patience101, @Sindbad05, @shiaman14, @S.M.H.A. Do you see what his argument are? 1. Qur'an is not kitab-e-mubeen. 2. Kitab-e-Mubeen means Lawh-e-Mahfooz 3. No other except Allah, has approach to Lawh-e-Mahfooz. 4. Prophet don't know the hypocrites. 5. Quran does not contain knowledge of everything. 6. Imam Ali was not the witness mentioned in 13:43 Should we let him go with these sort of arguments? or should we try to counter him? Should we start believing that the views of Usuli's are based on fake and daeef narrations? I don't know how many will get misguided with his opinions. Just have a look of the summary of FAQ # 11, present on his website: "Summary: a) No proof for the claim that “kitabim mubeen” in 6:59 refers to Quran. b) No proof that for the claim that “kitab” in 13:43 is same as “kitabim mubeen” in 6:59 c) No authentic proof that “one with knowledge of book” in 13:43 is specifically for Imam Ali (as). On the other hand, we have abundant proof from Quran and lives of the Prophet (saww) and Imams (as) that they did not have knowledge of everything."
  11. If anyone say that Angles helped the believers in the battle of Badr, do you call him mushrik? That "anyone" knows the fact that it is Allah who has helped the believers through Angels. We will discuss the administration of takwini affairs latter.
  12. My reply to shia-reformist: "Salamun Alaikum Brother, Hope that you're fine & well. Let me start with answering your question first i.e., Quote: "I would also like you to tell me if your aim is to find the truth or to defend your pre existing belief at any cost?" Answer: My aim is to know what is the fact, I know the views of Akhbari's & Asulis. Now since you claim that you're a reformist shia, I do want to know what are your view & on what grounds you have difference of opinion with other shia's and what reforms you like to bring into shiaism, If they're in accordance with the teachings of Quran & Ahlul Bayt (a.s), I don't think anyone would disagree with them. Now I am starting this discussions from your referred article i.e., FAQ#11 in which I have seen some of your claims while you were trying to refute the claim that "Imam Ali (a.s) had knowledge of everything". Let me tell you my personal view point first, I don't have any view at moment, since I am in dialogue with you and trying to learn the FACT only. It is a claim that the witness mentioned in 13:43, refers to Imam Ali (a.s), and I have seen some traditions in the history books. But lets assume for a while, all of those tradition are false, and start the discussions. 1st objection: Quote: “Those who make the argument mentioned in the question think that “Kitabim mubeen” in this verse means Quran, but there is no way to prove that. It is only their guess (Dhann) that “Kitabim Mubeen” here refers to the Quran, a better tafseer would be that “Kitabim Mubeen” means “Lauh al Mahfooz”, since we know everything is preserved in “Lauh al Mahfooz”, moreover we know that the Quran doesn’t mention everything (from the past and future)” I would like to know as to why you think that : 1. Quran is not Kitab-e-Mubeen? 2. Kitab-e-Mubeen is Lauh al Mahfooz? 3. No other except Allah, has approach to Lauh al Mahfooz or Kitab-e-Mubeen? Lets see few verses of Quran: 1a. (Qur’an 5:15): O followers of the Book! Indeed Our Apostle has come to you making clear to you much of what you concealed of the Book and passing over much; Indeed, there has come to you light and a clear Book from Allah. 1b. (Qur’an 27:1): Ta Seen! These are the verses of the Quran and the Book that makes (things) clear. (kitabim-mubeen) Note: The verses of Qur’an are the verses of Kitab-e-Mubeen. 2a. (Qur’an 85:21-22): Nay! It is a glorious Qur’an, In a guarded tablet. (Lawhim-Mahfooz) 2b. 2b. (Qur’an 43:2-4): I swear by the Book that makes things clear: Surely We have made it an Arabic Qur’an that you may understand. And surely it is in the original of the Book with Us, truly elevated, full of wisdom. Note: It is the Qur’an which is in Lawhim-Mehfooz and it is the Qur’an which is in Ummil-Kitab. 3. (Qur’an 56:77-79): Most surely it is an honored Qur’an, In a book that is protected. None shall touch it save the purified ones. Note: There are people (Muttahharoon), who have access to that Qur’an which is protected (in Lawhim Mahfooz) 2nd Objection: Quote: “we know that the Quran doesn’t mention everything (from the past and future), and this can be proven from many examples in the Quran itself, but here we will mention only one example. The Quran says in 9:101 “And among those around you of the bedouins are hypocrites, and [also] from the people of Madinah. They have become accustomed to hypocrisy. You, [O Muhammad], do not know them, [but] We know them. We will punish them twice [in this world]; then they will be returned to a great punishment.” We would like to ask a question, if the Quran indeed mention everything (maybe in its batin), then how come the Prophet (saww) does not know the hypocrites? If the Quran mentioned everything, it should have mentioned something through which the Prophet (saww) could recognize the hypocrites too.” I would like to know: 1. How can you prove that Qur’an does not mention everything? While there is a verse 6:59 which says it contain everything. 2. How can you claim that Prophet don’t know the hypocrites? There can be the case that Prophet might have knowledge but since Prophet do not express anything from his knowledge without the permission of Allah & while there is a verse of Qur’an which tells us about Prophet that “Nor does he speak out of desire” (Qur’an 53:3), what make you sure that Prophet don't have knowledge about hypocrites? 3. How can you claim that Prophet don’t know the hypocrites while there is a verse in Qur’an which tells that “Had We so wiled, We could have shown them up to thee, and thou shouldst have known them by their marks: but surely thou wilt know them by the tone of their speech! And Allah knows all that ye do. 4. Will you like to challenge the divine knowledge too as there are verses in Qur’an which mentions this: a) And most certainly We will try you until We have known those among you who exert themselves hard, and the patient, and made you case manifest. (Qur’an 47:31) b) And certainly We tried those before them, so Allah will certainly know those who are true and He will certainly know the liars. (Qur’an 29:3) c) And most certainly Allah will know those who believe and most certainly He will know the hypocrites. (Qur’an 29:11) 3rd Objection: Quote: “The Quran says in 13:43 “And those who have disbelieved say, “You are not a messenger.” Say, [O Muhammad], “Sufficient is Allah as Witness between me and you, and one who has knowledge of the book (ilm al kitab).” Now which “kitab” has been mentioned in this verse? Is it Quran? Is it some other book? Well it’s unclear. The point is, do we know for sure that the “kitabim mubeen” in 6:59 and “kitab” in 13:43 are the same? No, we don’t. Another claim they make is that “one who has knowledge of the book” refers specifically to Imam Ali (as), even though there is no “Sahih” (authentic) hadith in favor of that. As we can see how much conjecture (Dhann) is required to use this as a proof for claiming knowledge of everything for Imam Ali (as).” I would like to know : 1. You don’t know whether it is Qur’an, Kitab-e-Mubeen or Lawhe-Mehfooz (which are same as already mentioned)? Or you think Allah is talking about Torah & Bible here? 2. What do you think? Which Book should be mentioned as a poof here in 13:43? If the witness possesses the knowledge of Torah or Bible but not having the knowledge of Qur’an, Will it be a rational way? How would be the value of that witness which does not possess the knowledge of “Book” which revealed on Prophet himself? 3. Does Qur’an testify the previous scriptures? Does it has information in it about previous scriptures? “He has revealed to you the Book with truth, verifying that which is before it, and He revealed the Taurat and the Injeel aforetime (Qur’an 3:3) 4. Which Book other than Torah & Bible, is mentioned in this verse: “And He will teach him the Book and the wisdom and the Tavrat and the Injeel” (Qur’an 3:48) 5. How do you see this verse: “We have revealed to you the Book with the truth, verifying what is before it of the Book and a guardian over it, therefore judge between them by what Allah has revealed, and do not follow their low desires (to turn away) from truth that has come to you; for every one of you did We appoint a law and a way, and if Allah had pleased He would have made you (all) a single people, but that He might try you in what He gave you, therefore strive with one another to hasten to virtuous deeds; to Allah is your return, of all (of you), so He will let you know that in which you differed” (Qur’an 5:48) You can see brother, I am seeking the answer from these questions just to understand in a better way, your opinion and the basis of your opinion. Thanking you and looking forward to receive your response. Regards Student"
  13. Thanks brother for this valued information. Now here is the new reply, a token of acceptance of dialogue, by that shia-reformist: "Salam brother, As you can see i said "i think" we have already answered ur agument, because that is a popular argument used by shia brothers. But if that was not your argument, then leave it. Let us discuss as you said. 1. We agree there is no God but Allah. 2. We agree Propher Muhammad (saww) is the last Prophet. 3. We agree Prophet Muhammad (saww) has the full knowledge of QURAN (If that is what you mean by "The book") 3. We agree Imam Ali (as) is one of the wasi of Rasool. 4. We agree there is no contradiction in Quran. I would also like you to tell me if your aim is to find the truth or to defend your pre existing belief at any cost? Being unbiased is very important."
  14. Are you not reading how he addressing me: He will be down in couple of days. In Sha Allah
  15. So we finally come to Aaleen. Surah Sad, Verse 75: قَالَ يَا إِبْلِيسُ مَا مَنَعَكَ أَن تَسْجُدَ لِمَا خَلَقْتُ بِيَدَيَّ أَسْتَكْبَرْتَ أَمْ كُنتَ مِنَ الْعَالِينَ He said: O Iblis! what prevented you that you should do obeisance to him whom I created with My two hands? Are you proud or are you of the exalted ones? (English - Shakir)