410 replies to this topic

[hameedeh]

Who knows who came to visit you when you were offline? Instead of five visitors showing on your profile page, have the option to have ten like the old SC had before the upgrade.

[satyaban]

I don't think people should be banned at all.

[ShiaBen]

satyaban, on 27 December 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

I don't think people should be banned at all.

You are right. So we can tolerate more trolls like you?

No, I disagree, I think banning should be applied when individuals start making false assertions and false accusations without any proof.

So the likes of Higgins, Justice4All, Satyaban, Hejsanvejsan, and any other member that keeps creating or spreading false propaganda or information, should receive bans. Why is it good posters like Basra who back up their claims with sources get banned, when these spammers get away with lying and misinformation: "Shiites don't allow women to drive" (Satyaban), "Saddam Hussein is great, he killed our Iranian enemies" (Higgins), "Iran threatens mankind" (Hejsan),

I think as moderators, I would have greater respect if you can take these matters a bit seriously. Users should be open minded and creative. Not narrow minded and intolerant.

[HellHound]

ShiaBen, on 28 December 2011 - 12:20 AM, said:

You are right. So we can tolerate more trolls like you?

No, I disagree, I think banning should be applied when individuals start making false assertions and false accusations without any proof.

So the likes of Higgins, Justice4All, Satyaban, Hejsanvejsan, and any other member that keeps creating or spreading false propaganda or information, should receive bans. Why is it good posters like Basra who back up their claims with sources get banned, when these spammers get away with lying and misinformation: "Shiites don't allow women to drive" (Satyaban), "Saddam Hussein is great, he killed our Iranian enemies" (Higgins), "Iran threatens mankind" (Hejsan),

I think as moderators, I would have greater respect if you can take these matters a bit seriously. Users should be open minded and creative. Not narrow minded and intolerant.

While what you say about Basra is true, I think he was banned for his blatant racism against white Americans and Europeans, if I remember correctly. No doubt he was a great poster.

Also, the reason most of the people you mention are still allowed to stay on the forum is because people have already seen their true colors and don't really care what they say. I'm also willing to bet that the admins/mods actually derive some form of entertainment watching the aforementioned people making complete fools out of themselves in front of everyone

[satyaban]

Shiaben

""Shiites don't allow women to drive" (Satyaban)"

You are losing your mind and it is getting worse everyday. Man you are no longer rational.

[Quranist]

we need audio option in chat room,so we can play Quraan,nasheed,naat,noha

[Khadim uz Zahra]

I don't really think that Satyaban is a bad member so I just don't see why you guys want him banned? Even if he did say that about Shias - or Iran - you could inform him about the true facts but, other than that, I don't think he is in anyway more insulting or offensive than others; in fact, his Akhlaq - IN MY VIEW - may even be much better than many of our own Shia brethren!'

But I do disagree with him on the fact that no members should be banned. After all, some members are too offensive, racist or arrogant and, if needed, they should be banned. We can only tolerate misbehaviour to a certain extent.

But these are just my views and you may choose to disagree with them.

[ImAli]

Replicant, on 28 December 2011 - 02:10 AM, said:

While what you say about Basra is true, I think he was banned for his blatant racism against white Americans and Europeans, if I remember correctly. No doubt he was a great poster.

I never understood Basra's self hatred

I also don't think that most members should be banned unless they are a stalker or something......isn't that what the ignore option is for?

[inshaAllah]

Salams

Just went through this Tsunami of fresh ideas..... so would like to share my thoughts. Kindly don't turn the thread into a debate....rather, feel free to contact us directly or create a separate thread. The purpose of responding is to ensure that your ideas are atleast not being ignored.

Maula Dha Mallang, on 24 December 2011 - 03:45 PM, said:

invite guests from other faiths to come and discuss with us in the thinkers forum (so things dont get ugly). the various faiths and sects all have well established websites and memberships. its time we expanded our horizons.

pick a group of representatives from our side, tell them to pick a group of representatives from their side, and pick a topic to discuss.

start with those [Edited] on ummah or islamic awakening,

By providing the platform of Thinker's Discourse, I think we have given opportunity to our members to invite other folks to our forum for the purpose of an intellectual and a strictly moderated discussion. So yes, the idea is good. But we expect initiatives from all members ...... For e.g, if you can get a team from another forum to participate in a formal debate, feel free to contact us. We can assist you by promoting it with tools such as announcements and by ensuring that the agreed upon rules are respected.

Khadim uz Zahra, on 24 December 2011 - 04:50 PM, said:

If possible, we should have more than one chatroom as in one should be for the chit chat and one should be serious debates and discussions because, in the present situation, there are just too many topics going on in the room at one moment and it is very confusing! I would love it if we had a separate chatroom for every forum (one for Philosophy, one for Inter-Islamic discussions, one for Muslims and Non-Muslims discussions etc...) but, perhaps, that is asking for too much so atleast we should have too separate rooms.

We used to have that in the past. But if memory serves me right, we chose to have one room only because it was easy to monitor and the idea was to encourage everyone to stick to meaningful discussions. Sure, that doesn't occur all the time and people do like having casual discussions but I've noticed that when members introduce serious discussions, they do receive positive response. We also don't have enough members to be considering dividing the hardly active room into a house of 3.

Mushu, on 24 December 2011 - 06:39 PM, said:

We should have an 'inshAllah' button. Or 'astaghfirAllah'

Thats too many options for each post.  Not even sure if we can code them....

DeeeeeBo, on 24 December 2011 - 06:48 PM, said:

I think we should have member points like under their name !

i see it on other forums, exp points, vote points, whatever u decide to call it, but something that members can give another certain member a wrap up !!!!

It ends up serving those who are too biased, too teenage and too much of attention seekers....... doesn't really help acknowledge the efforts of members who genuinely contribute to the forum.....

La, on 25 December 2011 - 01:39 PM, said:

Remove half of the current admins and replace them with more competant figues that would ban the likes of hejsanvesan and Muntasir.

That sounds like a complaint. Please report or contact team members in private.

hameedeh, on 27 December 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Who knows who came to visit you when you were offline? Instead of five visitors showing on your profile page, have the option to have ten like the old SC had before the upgrade.

Will look into this..... I am sure we have an option in the control panel. If so, i'll update accordingly. Thx

satyaban, on 27 December 2011 - 08:55 PM, said:

I don't think people should be banned at all.

That'll exert too much of pressure/work load on admins/mods. Suspending serial-offenders for a few months/days/hours means we are likely to confront the same members/issues again. Having a database, however, of banned ips/usernames helps us deal with idiots, spammers, extremely difficult members or the ones who have exhausted their warn logs and there seems to be little hope that they will ever consider the concerns of staff. As for the humiliation stamp of "BANNED", I think it is beneficial because we'd like to reveal true worth of that member to the newcomers or guests, in case they are inspired by a few of their posts but are unaware of the 'hidden truth'. I'd also like to ensure our senior members (be them well respected, less popular or even controversial to an extent) on the forum that we have taken certain measures to ensure that this power of 'banning members' is not abused. There are guidelines for our team to refer to, with specific case studies, to explain when a ban is necessary and when it can be avoided. Finally, all members have the right to complain. So feel free to contact us if you feel that you have been treated unfairly.

Regards
I

[Gotham]

i'd love it if SC could have a blogging area.

[hameedeh]

Before the upgrade, we had comments from people directly on our profile page. We don't have that now.
You must go to your profile and click on the left side, where it says "Profile Feed" to see that you have comments from people.
I'm sure that some people don't realize this and so they never respond to your comments.

[Shia_Debater]

MAFHHZB, on 07 February 2012 - 12:57 PM, said:

Above Recent Topics shown at the right hand of the site, I would show recent posts. This way it is easy to navigate through the topics with the latest posts, if they are all bunched together. Best sample is sunni HCY forum. It really makes my day easy.

When you click on recent topics, the topics which have had the most recent comments on them come up [whether you have already visited that topic or not]

[Shia_Debater]

MAFHHZB, on 10 February 2012 - 10:25 AM, said:

I don't know what you are saying Sha_Debater, because what I see on the right side of the screen is Recent Topics, below which only the new topics created have been shown, but never recent posts (which includes of older topics). Therefore I recommend that a Recent Posts section be added, where even older topics are shown to which members have recently decided to reply.

Sorry, I meant when you click on "View New Content"

http://www.shiachat....arch_app=forums

[Christianlady]

Ali, on 29 December 2005 - 03:12 PM, said:

Salams,

Your input is needed.  Every member is asked to simply finish this statement in one sentence.

To improve ShiaChat.com, I would...

Serious input only please, and one reply from each member.  This is not a discussion thread, just a place for every member to tell us what they would do to improve this site.  Inshallah I'll take this brain storming and make some of these ideas a reality.

This will inshallah act as a To-do list for our Dev. team and I'll try to respond to all replies.  I will also delete any reply that is not an answer to the above posted question.

Wa salam.

Hello Ali,

First of all, thank you so much for allowing members who are of different beliefs. I really appreciate shichat.com's tolerance, patience, and kindness in allowing people of other beliefs to post! Thanks!

To improve Shiachat, I would like it to stop telling me if I have the incorrect number of quotations. I like to quote people when I write and I sometimes get that mixed up somehow. it's such a pain to go through looking for an extra

Quote

lol. and I have to put

right now so it won't give me that message.

To improve ShiaChat, I would also like it if it would stop telling me about the limit of emoticons in certain things. Why does it do that? Maybe some posters do not want emoticons? I don't understand.

To improve ShiaChat, I would like very much if a moderator can be assigned to me, to make sure nobody is being mean to me (and most people are very nice thanks to everyone who is) and to help me understand if I write something that offends people? (My culture is not Iranian nor have I ever been there, and my worldview is very much Christian, one of the reasons being because I have grown up in a predominately Christian environment.) There are Muslim posters who have helped me understand things better and I appreciate that.

To improve ShiaChat, I would like there to be a time limit request? I don't know if that kind of technology is possible yet? Can Shiachat be programmed where moderators can give members the option of choosing a time limit for everyday in posting? If so, that would be lovely because I am now addicted to shiachat and need to limit time on here, and my willpower is not incredibly strong in this regard. So, it would be nice to have help, if possible? It would be interesting to choose to have 3 hours, for example of time on shiachat and when the time is up, for a message to come on saying "Your time is up for today. See you tomorrow or another day if God wills. Thank you and have a good day"  You know what I mean? And then in order to change it, one would need to request a moderator and give a good explanation as to why. Anyways...


Thanks.

Peace and God bless y'all

[Dam3il Husayn]

I would create a shiachat app...

[Quranist]

EndlessEndeavor, on 09 April 2012 - 08:16 AM, said:

I second the idea about limiting the number of threads a single user can start per day.

agreed

[Shia_Debater]

I agree with limiting the amount of threads a user can make per day, I think it should be two aswell.

[Master Chief]

Could we have a general SC rules such as:

The following is prohibited throughout the site

Shouting [Use of Caps Locks]
Swearing [Any swear words]
Teasing
Baiting
Sarcasm
Ridicule
Sardonic Humour [mocking or being cynical]
Personal attacks [http://en.wikipedia....iki/Ad_hominem]

The consequence of breaking the above rule would first be a suspension and then banned from the site. These rule should be strictly enforced by the mods and by the admins. (Mods should also have the power to ban or suspend people, if they don't have those powers yet)

Edited by Master Chief, 29 April 2012 - 11:37 PM.

[Philip]

.. i would remove the shaytan emoticon   and replace it with arabic writing along the line of



( awuthu biLah min alshaytan alrajeem -- i seek refuge in with Allah from the shaytan the rejected )



so we can use it before saying   when quoting quran for instance  ..

So when you recite the Qur'an, seek refuge in Allah from Satan, the expelled 16:98





because ..

Indeed, Satan is an enemy to you; so take him as an enemy. He only invites his party to be among the companions of the Blaze. 35:6



question is: why should we have a shaytan option between   and   ?

it's obviously wrong dear brothers and sisters ..

thanks

[Rasul]

Adding IP.Board mod 'Reputation' ?

[UmmAhmad]

I have only been here a short time, but I have noticed that in the sisters forum they have complained of the brothers going there. Why not have that forum locked? You must be a member or something to view the posts. That ways we can ask questions that weigh on our minds without worrying about a brother reading it and then embarrassment for us in return.

[Khadim uz Zahra]

UmmAhmad, on 17 May 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

I have only been here a short time, but I have noticed that in the sisters forum they have complained of the brothers going there. Why not have that forum locked? You must be a member or something to view the posts. That ways we can ask questions that weigh on our minds without worrying about a brother reading it and then embarrassment for us in return.

Actually, this has been quite a hot topic in the past but, in the end, it was found that it was useless to lock the forum because anyone could make an account as a female and be able to access the Sisters' forum without any problems. What is, I think, the best option is to, at least, label the titles of thread, clearly saying that this is a "Sisters only" thread so that people don't accidentally open it. Apart from that, not much can be done because if someone really wants to visit the forum, they can always use a fake ID posing as a Sister.

[inshaAllah]

Salams All

Thanks to Rasul's reminder (and _Jugniis lame post), heres a response to some of your suggestions. And as previously advised, kindly avoid debating my response here. Rather feel free to create a separate thread if need be...

hameedeh, on 27 December 2011 - 10:09 AM, said:

Who knows who came to visit you when you were offline? Instead of five visitors showing on your profile page, have the option to have ten like the old SC had before the upgrade.

hameedeh, on 09 February 2012 - 05:42 PM, said:

Before the upgrade, we had comments from people directly on our profile page. We don't have that now.
You must go to your profile and click on the left side, where it says "Profile Feed" to see that you have comments from people.
I'm sure that some people don't realize this and so they never respond to your comments.

1) I went through our settings and unfortunately couldn't find any option in the upgraded version.

2) Again, the upgrade brought some changes we didn't like. We can however deal with this issue by updating our notification settings i-e if someone comments on our profile, we can choose to receive a notification on board, via email or on the phone.

Christianlady, on 10 February 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

To improve ShiaChat, I would also like it if it would stop telling me about the limit of emoticons in certain things. Why does it do that? Maybe some posters do not want emoticons? I don't understand.

To improve ShiaChat, I would like very much if a moderator can be assigned to me, to make sure nobody is being mean to me (and most people are very nice thanks to everyone who is) and to help me understand if I write something that offends people? (My culture is not Iranian nor have I ever been there, and my worldview is very much Christian, one of the reasons being because I have grown up in a predominately Christian environment.) There are Muslim posters who have helped me understand things better and I appreciate that.

To improve ShiaChat, I would like there to be a time limit request? I don't know if that kind of technology is possible yet? Can Shiachat be programmed where moderators can give members the option of choosing a time limit for everyday in posting? If so, that would be lovely because I am now addicted to shiachat and need to limit time on here, and my willpower is not incredibly strong in this regard. So, it would be nice to have help, if possible? It would be interesting to choose to have 3 hours, for example of time on shiachat and when the time is up, for a message to come on saying "Your time is up for today. See you tomorrow or another day if God wills. Thank you and have a good day"  You know what I mean? And then in order to change it, one would need to request a moderator and give a good explanation as to why. Anyways...

1) Emoticons are fine however too many of them in a single thread/post is pure torture. Thus, the restriction.

2) Mods cannot be assigned to individuals. (I personally wouldn't mind advertising my paypal to those interested in a premium vip service but Saudia Arabia wouldn't allow us). Anyways, many of our members are helpful (as you may have noticed) and they welcome people of other faith and cultures as long as guests follow rules and exchange views in a respectful manner. Also, feel free to use the report feature if other members are misbehaving and breaking forum rules.

3) Our system settings do not allow such an option. Even if we did, I'd have reservations in implementing it as it isn't feasible. Many members ask us to unregister them, only to return back. Same will happen with the time restrictions per day. It just adds more work to our already long list of 'to do things' on a daily basis.

Mushu, on 01 April 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

Any chance of limiting the number of topics a user can start per day?

It's annoying when a single user starts about 6 topics at once, rendering the other topics which started before his invisible. The topics may be legit, but it's still annoying.

How about 2 topics per day?

I noticed someone creating several topics a few weeks ago. But 2 topics per day is maybe a bit harsh and unfair to everyone else. If I am not mistaken, there is a time restriction for creating new topics. Maybe that needs to be increased.  

Master Chief, on 29 April 2012 - 11:36 PM, said:

Could we have a general SC rules such as:

The following is prohibited throughout the site

Shouting [Use of Caps Locks]
Swearing [Any swear words]
Teasing
Baiting
Sarcasm
Ridicule
Sardonic Humour [mocking or being cynical]
Personal attacks [http://en.wikipedia....iki/Ad_hominem]

The consequence of breaking the above rule would first be a suspension and then banned from the site. These rule should be strictly enforced by the mods and by the admins. (Mods should also have the power to ban or suspend people, if they don't have those powers yet)

If we don't allow CAPS, HOW WE KNOW SOMEONE IS TRUE?? THINKKK BEFORE YOU SPEAK NEXT TIME TO ME !!!! (",)

On a serious note, all of these rules are covered in the thread below:

http://www.shiachat....39#entry1645439

Since we cannot stay online 24/7, we always seek help from members in reporting those who break forum rules. As for punishment i-e suspension/ban e.t.c, please note that we have to be flexible at times and deal with members on a case by case basis. For example, sometimes members are completely unaware that the use of CAPS is considered rude and means they're shouting. They seem to be EMPHASIZING on their point. So if I see a new member using caps, i'll perhaps send a quick email and update his warn log.

Rasul, on 17 May 2012 - 10:44 AM, said:

Adding IP.Board mod 'Reputation' ?

As in.... allowing members to rate a mod?

UmmAhmad, on 17 May 2012 - 12:51 PM, said:

I have only been here a short time, but I have noticed that in the sisters forum they have complained of the brothers going there. Why not have that forum locked? You must be a member or something to view the posts. That ways we can ask questions that weigh on our minds without worrying about a brother reading it and then embarrassment for us in return.

As Khadim explained, segregation will not really help achieve much of privacy. You will end up welcoming psychos and stalkers (pretending to be sisters) ..... I'd rather have brothers (with good reputation) also keeping an eye on the Sisters forum (and vice versa) as well as having the opportunity to exchange ideas and learn from one another. As for private topics, sisters can always create groups and only invite other well known (preferably senior) sisters in a private conversation. Senior sisters usually know other active sisters on the forum and will be able to invite them all.