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Did any Shia Aalim ever convert to Sunni/Wahabi ?


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Poll: Which figure is greater in number? (357 member(s) have cast votes)

Which figure is greater in number?

  1. - There are more Sunni/Wahabi Aalim converted to Shia religion (260 votes [82.54%])

    Percentage of vote: 82.54%

  2. - There are more Shia Aalims converted to Sunni/Wahabi religion (55 votes [17.46%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.46%

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#1 inuit

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Posted 03 May 2005 - 11:39 PM

(bismillah)

List the names of those Ullema who converted to either School of thoughts which you know, through news, literature, and history or from any other source.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 01:53 AM

wazir turabi from sunni to shia
YA ALI MADAD

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:12 AM

the sunnis are in way of a majority. thast why alot convert to shia.


aint heard of a shia alim  converting to sunni. obviously there must be one atleast
SHAKIR 5.55 : Only Allah is your Vali and His Messenger and those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow.

SHAKIR 5.56 : And whoever takes Allah and His messenger and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:30 AM

(bismillah)  (salam)
MOHAMMAD TEEJANI SAMAVI
HIs books after he converted to shiasm
WHEN I Was Guided
www.al-islam.org
  THE REAL Ahlulsunnah
he has published more books  but i am not aware of them well

And My cousins husband he became shia during the islamic revolution of Iran he
had a dream About AyatulAllah ruhulAllah Imam Khomieni and he became shia I knew alot of ppl and Alot of shiekh esp in paki

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:33 AM

THE NIGHTS OF PESHAWARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
  4 Big Sunnie alim became shia after the debate they had with Just 1 shia Aalim
Suban Allah
YA ALIIIIIIIIIIIIIII MADAD

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 03:45 AM

Count me as one of the Wahhabi Aalim who converted to Shia Islam :D
Proud to be aPaki

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 04:11 AM

2 friends of mine converted to SHIA  :blush:
dont know about aalims...

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:30 AM

im sure its shias who have converted to sunni.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:44 AM

There are many Sunni Ulema that converted to Shi’a in the Indian Subcontinent, many who were subsequently killed by Sippa-e-Sahaba.  I’m only writing the ones that are in my knowledge,

1. Maulana Ismail Deoband – Ex Deobandi converted to Shi’a.  Was a big time debated and was responsible for converting entire villages to Shi’a when defeating their Mullah’s in debates.  He also converted scholars to Shi’a when they lost such as Hafiz Sayfullah (Wahabi) and Saeed’ur Rahman Alavi (Deobandi).  Killed when his car breaks mysteriously failed.

2. Maulana Ghulam Husayn Naeemi – Ex Deobandi debated in Punjab Martyred by SSP

3. Allamah Talib Husayn Kirpalvee (ex Barelvi) – wrote over 50 books on the life of Rasul (s), Maula ‘Ali (as) and Ahl’ul bayt (as). Martyred by SSP

4. Allamah Abdul Kareem Mushtaq – Ex Barelvi authored 40 books refuting Nasabi lies against Shi’a – appealed to the common man, converted many to Shi’a. Martyred by SSP

5. Allamah Shah Zaeem Fatami – was a Deobandi, infact the son in law of their leader Ataullah Bukhari, authored ‘Purdah ut tha hai’ [veils are lifted] when he converted.  Was poisoned by his family.

6. Abdul Qayum Alavi – He was not just a Wahaby but was infact the side kick of Maulana Ghulamullah of SSP.  He wrote one book when he was Sunni but exposing the Wahaby’s – Tareekh Nasabi, and then wrote Tareekh Nasabi V2 when he became Shia.

7. Maulana Tawakkul Husayn – Ex Deobandi – alive and kicking Ex Deobandi, very harsh volatile speaker


8. Maulana Hafiz Younis Gujjar – Ex Barelvi he is quite popular amongst the Punjabi speaking audiences.

9. Maulana Tajideen Haydheri – Ex Barelvi, converted in 70’s and a major debater, defeated all these Nasbi Mullah’s and was the lone Maulana who appeared in court ion the 80’s (Karachi) when SSP filed a petition to declare Shi’a Kaafirs.

10. Hafiz Muhammad author of the famous Fulq un Najaath – A Sunni Maulana who authored this to counter all the Hate mail he’d received when he became Shi’a

11. Allamah Haroon Gilani converted there years ago from a Sunni family of Ulema and Pirs.

12. Maulana Abdul Saqi – Ex Barelvi scholar I heard when he was Sunni and Shi’a, good speaker really knows his stuff.

13. Thee was also the General Secretary of SSP (Sindh area) who became Shi’a in Prison – I heard him speak in Rwalpindi but his name has slipped me.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 07:46 AM

The sites refers to an ex Ismaili

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:13 AM

Morg, on May 4 2005, 07:30 AM, said:

im sure its shias who have converted to sunni.

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Yes, Morg - This is an Ismaili website, not a Shia Athna Ashri site. List anybody from Shia athna Ashri who became Sunni. thanks

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:14 AM

Soory Bro's I thought this discussion was PURELY about scholars that converted.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:15 AM

Aghamalang, on May 4 2005, 04:46 PM, said:

The sites refers to an ex Ismaili

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Yeah and not only that . The person is using stupid personal reasons in his argument and choses to understand the way he wants .

I am sure that the right sect is those who are united .

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 10:30 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I cant live without the Love of Allah, Rasool, Ahlulbiat esp ImamHussain and Abal fazil il Abbasss

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 11:00 AM

From the shia side, I have heard of two:
Musa al-Musawi and ayatollah al-Burqai.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:16 PM

Salaams

Bro Taha, Musawi did NOT become Sunni he has ask for Shia'ism to be revised and is just barking on like Muhammad Husayn Dhakoo in Pakistan.

Edited by Aghamalang, 04 May 2005 - 02:17 PM.


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Posted 04 May 2005 - 02:22 PM

Ohh, ok. Like Ahmad al-Katib?
I heard he's an ihda-ashari.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:38 PM

wat is ihda-ashari?
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:48 PM

Ihda-ashari = believes in the first eleven imams (as).

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:49 PM

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:55 PM

and by the way i read a book supposedly by a shia scholar who became sunni but the whole book was obviously a wahabbi forgery since it talked about Quran of Fatima and other nonsense
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Posted 04 May 2005 - 08:55 PM

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Ohh, ok. Like Ahmad al-Katib?  I heard he's an ihda-ashari.


^^there are a lot more now a days,specialy in Pakistan......as Sharf-u-Deen Baltistsni,who is going to introduce a new religion with shia title.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:06 PM

Aghamalang, on May 4 2005, 07:44 AM, said:

There are many Sunni Ulema that converted to Shi’a in the Indian Subcontinent, many who were subsequently killed by Sippa-e-Sahaba.  I’m only writing the ones that are in my knowledge,

1. Maulana Ismail Deoband – Ex Deobandi converted to Shi’a.  Was a big time debated and was responsible for converting entire villages to Shi’a when defeating their Mullah’s in debates.  He also converted scholars to Shi’a when they lost such as Hafiz Sayfullah (Wahabi) and Saeed’ur Rahman Alavi (Deobandi).  Killed when his car breaks mysteriously failed.

2. Maulana Ghulam Husayn Naeemi – Ex Deobandi debated in Punjab Martyred by SSP

3. Allamah Talib Husayn Kirpalvee (ex Barelvi) – wrote over 50 books on the life of Rasul (s), Maula ‘Ali (as) and Ahl’ul bayt (as). Martyred by SSP

4. Allamah Abdul Kareem Mushtaq – Ex Barelvi authored 40 books refuting Nasabi lies against Shi’a – appealed to the common man, converted many to Shi’a. Martyred by SSP

5. Allamah Shah Zaeem Fatami – was a Deobandi, infact the son in law of their leader Ataullah Bukhari, authored ‘Purdah ut tha hai’ [veils are lifted] when he converted.  Was poisoned by his family.

6. Abdul Qayum Alavi – He was not just a Wahaby but was infact the side kick of Maulana Ghulamullah of SSP.  He wrote one book when he was Sunni but exposing the Wahaby’s – Tareekh Nasabi, and then wrote Tareekh Nasabi V2 when he became Shia.

7. Maulana Tawakkul Husayn – Ex Deobandi – alive and kicking Ex Deobandi, very harsh volatile speaker
8. Maulana Hafiz Younis Gujjar – Ex Barelvi he is quite popular amongst the Punjabi speaking audiences.

9. Maulana Tajideen Haydheri – Ex Barelvi, converted in 70’s and a major debater, defeated all these Nasbi Mullah’s and was the lone Maulana who appeared in court ion the 80’s (Karachi) when SSP filed a petition to declare Shi’a Kaafirs.

10. Hafiz Muhammad author of the famous Fulq un Najaath – A Sunni Maulana who authored this to counter all the Hate mail he’d received when he became Shi’a

11. Allamah Haroon Gilani converted there years ago from a Sunni family of Ulema and Pirs.

12. Maulana Abdul Saqi – Ex Barelvi scholar I heard when he was Sunni and Shi’a, good speaker really knows his stuff.

13. Thee was also the General Secretary of SSP (Sindh area) who became Shi’a in Prison – I heard him speak in Rwalpindi but his name has slipped me.

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^^if only we get count from Pakistan,list will aproch to 100s at least :P  
u missed one big name  ..Allama Saeed_u_Rehman Alvi(sher-e-Pakistan).
SSP Alim name is >>Mulana Zahid-u-Rashdi.
also another one from SSP..>mulana Imran.(Pindi)

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:45 PM

Hakeem Syed Mahmoomd Gilani Ex Ahle-Hadith became shia after research of famous books - wrote famous books : Aylia, Ohm aur Ali etc - He was Ahle Hadith before. from Sialkot.

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Posted 04 May 2005 - 09:49 PM

Please list more names from both sides

From Sunni to Shia

(1) Wazir Turabi
(2) Muhammad Teejani Samavi
(3) (a) The Nights of Peshawar
(4) (b) The Nights of Peshawar
(5) © The Nights of Peshawar
(6) (d) The Nights of Peshawar
(7) Shiekh Jihad Ismail
(8) Maulana Ismail Deobandi
(9) Maulana Ghulam Husayn Naeemi
(10) Allamah Talib Husayn Kirpalvee (ex Barelvi) Shaheed
(11) Allamah Abdul Kareem Mushtaq – Ex Barelvi Shaheed
(12) Allamah Shah Zaeem Fatami
(13) Abdul Qayum Alavi
(14) Maulana Tawakkul Husayn – Ex Deobandi
(15) Maulana Hafiz Younis Gujjar
(16) Maulana Tajideen Haydheri – Ex Barelvi
(17) Hafiz Muhammad
(18) Allamah Haroon Gilani
(19) Maulana Abdul Saqi
(20) Allama Saeed u Rehman Alvi (sher-e-Pakistan) ex SSP (SSP name: Mulana Zahid-u-Rashdi)
(21) Mulana Imran (Rawalpindi)
(22) Hakeem Syed Mahmoomd Gilani Ex Ahle-Hadith

Shia Converted to Sunni

(1) Musa al-Musawi
(2) Ayatollah al-Burqai




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