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[Abdul Qaim]

PureEthics, on 18 May 2013 - 08:28 PM, said:

brother you shouldnt say that. There are many people who are shia and have doubts, especially on here. The least you are doing is making your faith strong and even helping others grasp it. This is why I like jinn and rosh, they challenge me in ways I have never thought of. I believe this is the struggle Allah is talking about. The objective shouldnt be trying to persuade them but truly dissecting their questions and answering them within your own self. At the end of the day, you cannot persuade everyone.

I agree. I guess I should've been more precise. What I mean is that attempting to convince Ugly Jinn and Rorschach is a futile exercise.

[PureEthics]

Abdul Qaim, on 18 May 2013 - 08:50 PM, said:

I agree. I guess I should've been more precise. What I mean is that attempting to convince Ugly Jinn and Rorschach is a futile exercise.

lol you never know. If salafis which are the most hardcore minded beings on earth, can become shias, maybe, just maybe one day these two will have some faith.

[iDevonian]

Ugly Jinn, on 18 May 2013 - 12:47 PM, said:

As a human, we have to draw a line somewhere. We just can't keep dismissing reality and living in this 'unverified' world, otherwise there is no point of reality if there is nothing we can take from it.

Just a comment on this.  Islam is, in my opinion, empowered on the applications that it brings to reality.  People cant always describe specific details of truth in Islam.  We arent all scholars, and yet, Islamic still succeeds in societies based on what it brings to people.  I consider this, a form of verifying truth in Islam, the message of Islam, in my opinion, certainly does hold truth, even if there are cases in which, we could not explain those truths. Or perhaps, its applicable in life, is not identical to material that we cannot explain or verify application in.

IbnSohan, on 18 May 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Assalamu Alaykum,

There are verses in Quran that speak about a day that is not the day of Qiyamah but one might mistaken it for the day of Qiyamah if they are not attentive.  This day is the day of reappearance of Imam Mahdi, it is not a cheerful day for when he will appear, there will be only 2 options, to believe or to die, much like what happened to people during Noah time. In Quran we are called children of those who were carried by the Ark. We are the children of the believers who entered the Ark. This is why he is in hiding, to give us the deserved chance to use the good in us to do good to the next generations by producing a mo'min.

Justice should be understood in the scope of Quran and Sunnah.

Waalaikum Salaam

Thank you.

Edited by iDevonian, 19 May 2013 - 12:14 AM.

[Rorschach]

.InshAllah., on 18 May 2013 - 04:18 PM, said:

The above a pretty obvious, but I state them because some people seem unable to grasp the obvious.

Wow. Didn't realise it was obvious to shut up, stop asking questions and just believe. If you'd told me that earlier, I wouldn't have expended much energy in making sense of a fairy tale.

Apparently, all the warfare and death that will occur on such a global landscape will result in a healthy, perfect world. Who will be employed to mop the blood and bury the multitude of corpses? Who will be employed to remedy the damaged rural environment and urban structures? Will the Mehdi spare all the skilled disbelievers? What if they refuse? Enslavement? Oh, sorry, I'm not supposed to ask questions. I just need to mindlessly repeat the phrase "divine justice" and be reassured that everything will work out just fine...