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[Rorschach]

You're basically saying that there aren't 313 Muslim individuals in the world who are "free."  Such a joke.

Edited by Rorschach, 05 May 2013 - 10:11 AM.

[yukapuka]

Rorschach, on 05 May 2013 - 10:10 AM, said:

You're basically saying that there aren't 313 Muslim individuals in the world who are "free."  Such a joke.

i didnt say that at all, i dont know whether there is 313 people who are free, but clearly the time does not correspond with the moment when God will release him, however understand this and the point of my message

the Imam is the final blow and the cherry on top of the cake, up until that  moment there is much effort already being laid, for example Imam Khomeini was a free man, and look just what one person achieved in Iran, and look how much his effort has sent waves of shock through the world which have even surpassed his life

this final war i believe is not like the other wars, it is not about one huge army verses another huge army, it is one man against the time and against the focus he puts on the front which he is facing, this is a timeless and space less battle, yes there will be the final manifestation where one huge army meets another, but this will not be the one and only occasion, and it will as it has been happening , over time, slowly chipping and destroying and changing and inspiring, almost each individual is fighting this war but some dont even know it

the efforts and the change is occurring  the individual people who are setting themselves free are having a huge impact on the world, and it takes time for the change to occur, but we have already passed the turning point, and know this, that thing are going up and looking good,

also bear in mind that this war is not a physical war, there is many borders and fronts which are involved and these borders involve and spread from the psychical plain to the spiritual plane, many wars are being fought, and many leaders are leading the wars in many different planes, int he spiritual plane people are waking up and abstaining from evil, they are adhering to religion, they are getting more holier, while on the physical plane the oppressed are being freed, and the people are fighting until they give up their blood, on the literal plane, people are writing books inspiring minds to be free, on the media plane people are sharing truth and opening eyes , every one of them soldiers from the same army but on different fronts, changing the world , they fight against one perception, but they effect every one and every part of the world

the soldiers of the Imam are not hibernating, they are already active, they have set and destroyed so many of the enemies plot, the enemy cannot even do that what they desire anymore , they are stuck and all their actions only tighten the grip of the effects

just because there is not an instant transformation doesnt mean things are not happening, Iran is powerful int the region thanks to the one mans actions Khomeinih, and also Saddam has been toppled, other dictators have been toppled, people are awake, yes there is still blood being spilled, but that is in accordance with God's plan, when it is time for you to die it is time, whether your death is a humiliation or a honor is up to God, but had there been peace or oppression the time of individuals deaths takes place nevertheless as the Quran states in that verse

the Imam and he Imams have been writing the strategy for this war for years and years, and Imam husayn showed this war in practice at Kerbala, all the strategy was deeply rooted with the faith and belief of Islam  it is just a matter of time before this plan already in motion reaches the final moments of victory

Edited by yukapuka, 05 May 2013 - 11:18 AM.

[Rorschach]

yukapuka, on 05 May 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

but we have already passed the turning point, and know this, that thing are going up and looking good

Everything is on a positive upward curve? Great. Looks like the Mehdi won't ever be retuning, then. The world has to be on a spiralling downward trend if He is to return. Forgot?

yukapuka, on 05 May 2013 - 10:51 AM, said:

also bear in mind that this war is not a physical war, there is many borders and fronts which are involved and these borders involve and spread from the psychical plain to the spiritual plane, many wars are being fought, and many leaders are leading the wars in many different planes, int he spiritual plane people are waking up and abstaining from evil, they are adhering to religion, they are getting more holier, while on the physical plane the oppressed are being freed, and the people are fighting until they give up their blood, on the literal plane, people are writing books inspiring minds to be free, on the media plane people are sharing truth and opening eyes , every one of them soldiers from the same army but on different fronts, changing the world , they fight against one perception, but they effect every one and every part of the world

the soldiers of the Imam are not hibernating, they are already active, they have set and destroyed so many of the enemies plot, the enemy cannot even do that what they desire anymore , they are stuck and all their actions only tighten the grip of the effects

I see. And these freedom fighters, in all their varieties, spread across the globe, constitute less than 313 individuals? You honestly expect me to believe that? How can any rational person take you seriously when you spout so much codswallop?

[yukapuka]

Rorschach, on 05 May 2013 - 11:38 AM, said:

Everything is on a positive upward curve? Great. Looks like the Mehdi won't ever be retuning, then. The world has to be on a spiralling downward trend if He is to return. Forgot?



I see. And these freedom fighters, in all their varieties, spread across the globe, constitute less than 313 individuals? You honestly expect me to believe that? How can any rational person take you seriously when you spout so much codswallop?

to be quiet honest i just answered your question, i am not trying to make you believe anything, belief is between man and God and i or anyone else cannot convince you otherwise, im simply answering your questions, i do not wish you evil, nor do i wish you good, i do not wish you to be my brother nor do i wish you to be my enemy, i do not need you, nor does God need you, nor does God need me, nor does the Imam need me, all that God wants to achieve God can achieve without anyone, however i need God and i need the Imam and that is all i pursue, you are still my brother as we are the children of adam, but even that fact doesnt matter, if you are interested to know how i think i will tell you, but what you believe and what i believe is to our own peril or gain or loss, it really affects nobody, my behaviour towardds you is simply me taking a glass of water from my well and serving you with what i have, i am not affected by you in that my emotions race at your words, im am simply being me

these are all titles and states of mind, and i am not trying to make you believe anything, , but if you sincerely view the efforts of people like Imam Khomeinih as individual and lone and to no purpose, well i guess we will leave it at that, however i am viewing their mean and their end, and their mean and beginning and end has sent the world in a spiral even after his death, even Lebanon and Palestine and all the world muslim or not ,knows his name and has felt his efforts, which from the main source are effects of the Imam via the training the Imams had through their teachings on this man via his Islamic learning and understanding and reading about the Imams and their lessons reaching him, especially Imam Husayn(a.s), Islamic leaders are spiritual leaders and scholars and their foundations are islamic principals and imams wisdom, that is where the outcome comes from

the whole middle east and west has been affected by imam khomeinih, but that is because it is on  a physical front it is so visible, its the ones that fight on different planes you do not see that also still affect you, even now as we speak these words are changing you in some way, they are affecting your ideas and understanding, however i am not trying to make any effect, i do not need to my purpose is to purify my soul and God can do with me as god pleases, i am not trying to change the state of mind of another person because only another can change his own mind and it is to his gain or loss, i answer for my actions and beliefs to God, not for anybody elses, and you answer to God for your own action i wish you good luck in that, but its impossible not to be affected when you read my words

as god says 'Do you wish to guide the one whom we have sent astray?"

and i am not saying you have been sent astray i am only saying with this statement from the Quran it is God who guides and it is God who sends astray, so i do not need to pretend or waste my effort in doing that which is in the hands of God , i can pray for you if you like? thats the most i can do

Edited by yukapuka, 05 May 2013 - 12:33 PM.

[Rorschach]

yukapuka, on 05 May 2013 - 12:20 PM, said:

but its impossible not to be affected

I'm not affected.
I'll tell you why.
Because you can't answer my questions.
I wasn't asking to be convinced.
Your long posts are tedious and lack substance.

[Rokaya]

Has anyone noticed the connection between the area code of Dearborn Michigan, and the number of devoted followers of imam al mehdi (313)?

[Rorschach]

Rokaya, on 11 May 2013 - 10:49 AM, said:

Has anyone noticed the connection between the area code of Dearborn Michigan, and the number of devoted followers of imam al mehdi (313)?

I hope you're kidding, or I pity you.

[Rokaya]

Rorschach, on 12 May 2013 - 10:05 AM, said:

I hope you're kidding, or I pity you.

Whether or not I am kidding, I'm just stating a coincidence. Don't pity me, I pity the fool who pities me.

[Rorschach]

Rokaya, on 16 May 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Whether or not I am kidding, I'm just stating a coincidence. Don't pity me, I pity the fool who pities me.

It's just that. A coincidence.

[Rokaya]

Rorschach, on 17 May 2013 - 11:34 AM, said:

It's just that. A coincidence.

Yes, just a coincidence. A RELIGIOUS SUPERNATURAL COINCIDENCE!!!

[Rorschach]

Rokaya, on 18 May 2013 - 03:05 PM, said:

Yes, just a coincidence. A RELIGIOUS SUPERNATURAL COINCIDENCE!!!

Shouting it doesn't make it true. But, hey, whatever makes you happy I guess.