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[Kindnhumble]

Brothers  iran has repeatedly said that its nuclear program is for energy purposes. As an engineer i know that nuclear power is cheap but its not that cheap that a country can go to such extreme to break its ties with whole world. Secondy nuclear power plants are extremely dangerous and safety measures increases their price. There is something dark. So do you people think Iran's nuclear program is for nukes? May be iran is doing takiyah by not telling the world?

[Repentant]

Even if Iran wanted nukes, what's the problem? Any nation has a right to do what other nations could do.

[Kindnhumble]

Repentant, on 22 September 2012 - 06:09 PM, said:

Even if Iran wanted nukes, what's the problem? Any nation has a right to do what other nations could do.

Its their right to build nukes, but why lie? No need to tell 196 countries that your program is for energy !!!!!!!!

Is it permitted in shiaism?

[Repentant]

Kindnhumble, on 22 September 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Its their right to build nukes, but why lie? No need to tell 196 countries that your program is for energy !!!!!!!!

Is it permitted in shiaism?

Is what permitted in Islam?

[Wing]

Kindnhumble, on 22 September 2012 - 06:14 PM, said:

Its their right to build nukes, but why lie? No need to tell 196 countries that your program is for energy !!!!!!!!

Is it permitted in shiaism?

Avoiding the start of a war is best, in this case a white lie. Thank god Iran exists otherwise the Middle east would drop like flies.

[Martyrdom]

Theirs a fatwa by Imam Khamanei that forbids nuclear weapons.

[Ali Musaaa :)]

Martyrdom, on 22 September 2012 - 06:28 PM, said:

Theirs a fatwa by Imam Khamanei that forbids nuclear weapons.

That's what may have been done in Taqiyah?

[Zulfiqar-e-Ali]

His Eminence, the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Grant Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei has issued a Fatwa that forbids the use of nuclear weapons in Islam.  Considering he is the supreme leader of the entire country, I would take him at his word.  It's not like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other government employee can do anything against it (not that they would, anyway).

Ali Musaaa :), on 22 September 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

That's what may have been done in Taqiyah?

Is it even permissible to issue a false fatwa?

[awaiting_for_the.12th]

^Correction: Aya. Khamanei is Vali Amr Al-Muslimeen. He is the guardian of all Muslims (Shia + Sunni) even if one doesn't agree to it, doesnt take the title away. Lol i bet this will light a fire among many but this is what it is. Its his title.

[Ali Musaaa :)]

Zulfiqar-e-Ali, on 22 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

Is it even permissible to issue a false fatwa?

I hope not.

[John Al-Ameli]

if Iran did nuclear weapons, they would do them to make a balance in the area. What will they do? Strike israel? And what? Kill a million of Lebanese Shia living in the South of Lebanon with them?

[titumir]

Kindnhumble, on 22 September 2012 - 06:04 PM, said:

Brothers  iran has repeatedly said that its nuclear program is for energy purposes. As an engineer i know that nuclear power is cheap but its not that cheap that a country can go to such extreme to break its ties with whole world. Secondy nuclear power plants are extremely dangerous and safety measures increases their price. There is something dark. So do you people think Iran's nuclear program is for nukes? May be iran is doing takiyah by not telling the world?

As an engineer, I think you're doing taqiyah by pretending to be a neutral observer while being a shia-hating illegitimate nasibi troll. This is another topic you've opened on this forum.

Kindnhumble, on 20 September 2012 - 05:17 PM, said:

I want to talk a bit practical here.

1. A non muslin will never be attracted to a religion that promotes Monarchy, rule by inheritance, by saying Hazrat Ali should have khilafat because of his relation with prophet (Although Quran clearly states in Quran that best among you is the one more pious)

2. Marriage can be done to just fulfill your sexual needs , like one night stand ,mutah. Even non practicing christian will laugh at mutah.

3. you can lie , takeiyah.

Why lie? Just say openly that you hate shias and are here to promote anti-Shia propaganda. Don't take us for fools.

[Al-Mufeed]

Iran refuses to become the economic slave of other countries. Its common sense - oil will run out eventually. Other forms of energy are needed.

Its not only an energy providing issue. Building Nuclear power plants is a way for Iran to improve its technological capabilities and also increase its economy.

Large scale/sophisticated technological programs such as this are the most effective way to increase innovative thinking, create jobs, and increase both private sector and public sector growth.

Although this is not the best analogy - but when the U.S sent a man to the moon they estimate for every dollar invested in to that program, it put nearly a billion dollars back in to the economy.

I don't think you will find virtually any Iranian who wants to give up on their peaceful nuclear ambitions.

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The building of nuclear weapons is forbidden in Islam. No muslim could ever use such a weapon, only Kafirs would be willing to wage war like that. They are completely forbidden in Islam, and I don't believe any marja has ever said other wise.

[Kindnhumble]

Zulfiqar-e-Ali, on 22 September 2012 - 06:41 PM, said:

His Eminence, the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic of Iran, Grant Ayatollah Sayyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei has issued a Fatwa that forbids the use of nuclear weapons in Islam.  Considering he is the supreme leader of the entire country, I would take him at his word.  It's not like President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or any other government employee can do anything against it (not that they would, anyway).



Is it even permissible to issue a false fatwa?

awaiting_for_the.12th, on 22 September 2012 - 06:48 PM, said:

^Correction: Aya. Khamanei is Vali Amr Al-Muslimeen. He is the guardian of all Muslims (Shia + Sunni) even if one doesn't agree to it, doesnt take the title away. Lol i bet this will light a fire among many but this is what it is. Its his title.

Ali Musaaa :), on 22 September 2012 - 06:53 PM, said:

I hope not.

RoAcHy, on 22 September 2012 - 07:03 PM, said:

if Iran did nuclear weapons, they would do them to make a balance in the area. What will they do? Strike israel? And what? Kill a million of Lebanese Shia living in the South of Lebanon with them?

The fatwa is against the use of nuclear weaopons not against making it !!

titumir, on 22 September 2012 - 10:53 PM, said:

As an engineer, I think you're doing taqiyah by pretending to be a neutral observer while being a shia-hating illegitimate nasibi troll. This is another topic you've opened on this forum.



Why lie? Just say openly that you hate shias and are here to promote anti-Shia propaganda. Don't take us for fools.

Well i never said in the whole post that i am neutral, mind it. Secondly its so kind of you  to blame anyone of nasibi troll without knowing him.  When you cant answer you start saying propoganda/ nasibi/ wahabi etc. Gentleman answer the post if you can otherwise stay away.

This is the problem with any self created aqeedah! They put you in awkward situations. Situation in which iran is.

Al-Mufeed, on 23 September 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

Iran refuses to become the economic slave of other countries. Its common sense - oil will run out eventually. Other forms of energy are needed.

Its not only an energy providing issue. Building Nuclear power plants is a way for Iran to improve its technological capabilities and also increase its economy.

Large scale/sophisticated technological programs such as this are the most effective way to increase innovative thinking, create jobs, and increase both private sector and public sector growth.

Although this is not the best analogy - but when the U.S sent a man to the moon they estimate for every dollar invested in to that program, it put nearly a billion dollars back in to the economy.

I don't think you will find virtually any Iranian who wants to give up on their peaceful nuclear ambitions.

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The building of nuclear weapons is forbidden in Islam. No muslim could ever use such a weapon, only Kafirs would be willing to wage war like that. They are completely forbidden in Islam, and I don't believe any marja has ever said other wise.

Iran is dumb if its nuclear program is for defence purposes.

Iran is dumbest if its nuclear program is for peaceful purposes. What the hack! like you are endangering your whole economy/exports/imports/progress/infrastructure for just few cents cheap energy?Nothing wise..........

And what about all the sanctions? In present world In order to technologically progress you need foreign investment/brains/expertise. Its not something you can build at home. You need better cooperation with entire world. Not just few cents cheap electricity. By the way their is nothing special in nuclear technology.

Edited by Kindnhumble, 23 September 2012 - 02:57 AM.

[Kindnhumble]

Al-Mufeed, on 23 September 2012 - 02:08 AM, said:

Large scale/sophisticated technological programs such as this are the most effective way to increase innovative thinking, create jobs, and increase both private sector and public sector growth.

Are you kidding me? If that was the case North Korea would not be a failed state. Contrary to them South Korea is a major economic power and one of the wealthiest countries in Asia.

[awaiting_for_the.12th]

Someone is hurt due to Iran's defiance infront of world powers when sunni countries are on their knees begging.

[Hot hot]

I hope iran don't use it in a  kindnhumble way on kindnhumble country lol

[Kindnhumble]

awaiting_for_the.12th, on 23 September 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

Someone is hurt due to Iran's defiance infront of world powers when sunni countries are on their knees begging.

Hot hot, on 23 September 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

I hope iran don't use it in a  kindnhumble way on kindnhumble country lol

I dont know why shia chat members are all time ready to get personal when they dont have answers. ...............

[awaiting_for_the.12th]

Kindnhumble, on 23 September 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

I dont know why shia chat members are all time ready to get personal when they dont have answers. ...............

There really is no medicine for stupidity . I hope you are mentally challenged because we can treat that but we cant treat stupidity.
Hence, the reason no one answers you.

[Hot hot]

Kindnhumble, on 23 September 2012 - 03:33 AM, said:

I dont know why shia chat members are all time ready to get personal when they dont have answers. ...............

Because you are here to slander not to learn

[Kindnhumble]

Hot hot, on 23 September 2012 - 05:52 AM, said:

Because you are here to slander not to learn

When did i slander?

awaiting_for_the.12th, on 23 September 2012 - 03:48 AM, said:

There really is no medicine for stupidity . I hope you are mentally challenged because we can treat that but we cant treat stupidity.
Hence, the reason no one answers you.

So no  answe mr scholar?

[Hot hot]

Kindnhumble, on 23 September 2012 - 09:18 AM, said:

When did i slander?

Have some almond you have a very weak memory in your very first post you said about the mutah with prostitute then when I probe, you said they are respected womens by mistakenly I said they are prostitute
It clearly shows your intention overhere

[Kindnhumble]

Hot hot, on 23 September 2012 - 09:29 AM, said:

Have some almond you have a very weak memory in your very first post you said about the mutah with prostitute then when I probe, you said they are respected womens by mistakenly I said they are prostitute
It clearly shows your intention overhere

Brother there is a difference between slander and sarcasm .......