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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:17 AM

Babusar killings : Sunnis refused to identify Shias in front of terrorists


This article, published in a reputed newspaper, says that many Sunnis tried to protect the Shias and that out of the 22 killed, 4 were Sunnis. They "protested and pressed" and "did not cooperate with them [ the terrorists]"


I am sincerely hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead.

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Babusar killings : Sunnis refused to identify Shias in front of terrorists.



This article, published in a reputed newspaper, says that Sunnis tried to protect the Shias and that out of the 22 killed, 4 were Sunnis. They "protested and pressed" and "did not cooperate with them [the terrorists]"


I am hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead yet.

Edited by Brained, 19 August 2012 - 10:13 AM.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:29 AM

"


I am sincerely hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead.

Babusar killings : Sunnis refused to identify Shias in front of terrorists.


This article, published in a reputed newspaper, says that Sunnis tried to protect the Shias and that out of the 22 killed, 4 were Sunnis. They "protested and pressed" and "did not cooperate with them [the terrorists]"

I am hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead yet.


Brother there are sunnis out there like that who will protect their shia brothers. Once in a blast on the Ashoora procession many shias got martyred. A sunni was asked why is he that sad, he exclaimed i lost all my property (as the central market was burnt), no problem. But i lost a friend(who was shia) who was like a brother to me. and i know sunnis who gave refuge to shias during sectarian turmoil in Hangu.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:39 AM

It is true. There are, indeed, those lovely beautiful Sunni folk in this nation who deserve our deepest respects and love. For their sake alone we should exercise maturity and restraint in things like public or loud-speaker assisted tabarra-bazi and never willfully hurt the feelings of the non-Shia by acting ignorantly. Because most of the time I see ignorant "Shia" fellows (who are actually Nusehri) provoking others consistently, for no reason and when its absolutely uncalled for. Only love can garner more love. Hate is answered by hate.

It is high time that we identify, expose, confront and abandon the fitna causing elements among our ranks (because we shelter any and all who utters the name of Ali (as), like Ismailis and Nusehris). Some Sunni brothers are already doing the same by disassociating quite harshly with the Wahabi and Ahl-e-Hadees who provide the recruitment pool for terrorists. These outsiders and neo-Kharijiites are the seditious element throwing gas over the fire since decades, and their method is to identify as either "Shia" (in case of nusehri ghulaat so-called-malangs ismailis etc.) or "Sunni" (in case of Saudi based new militant sects). It is when we all have this awareness in sufficient quantity will we be able to solve the terrorism and sectarian problems, not for others, but for salvaging the future of our own nation.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 10:56 AM

I am so happy to see such a thread. really happy.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 11:05 AM

Hasan bhai, I too felt really happy when i first heard about the news. Our Sunni brothers want unity and we want it too, but extremists on both sides actively try to disrupt the peace process.

As DV bhai said, we should refrain from tabarra-bazi and not hurt their feelings.

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 01:17 PM

It is true. There are, indeed, those lovely beautiful Sunni folk in this nation who deserve our deepest respects and love. For their sake alone we should exercise maturity and restraint in things like public or loud-speaker assisted tabarra-bazi and never willfully hurt the feelings of the non-Shia by acting ignorantly. Because most of the time I see ignorant "Shia" fellows (who are actually Nusehri) provoking others consistently, for no reason and when its absolutely uncalled for. Only love can garner more love. Hate is answered by hate.

It is high time that we identify, expose, confront and abandon the fitna causing elements among our ranks (because we shelter any and all who utters the name of Ali (as), like Ismailis and Nusehris). Some Sunni brothers are already doing the same by disassociating quite harshly with the Wahabi and Ahl-e-Hadees who provide the recruitment pool for terrorists. These outsiders and neo-Kharijiites are the seditious element throwing gas over the fire since decades, and their method is to identify as either "Shia" (in case of nusehri ghulaat so-called-malangs ismailis etc.) or "Sunni" (in case of Saudi based new militant sects). It is when we all have this awareness in sufficient quantity will we be able to solve the terrorism and sectarian problems, not for others, but for salvaging the future of our own nation.


Well said brother, very well said!
I can relate to this as well.

I am in Canada and for Ramadan and Muharram we get amazing English Alims and academics from which the Majlis here are amazing.
We unfortunately also get some Alims from Pakistan and India where all what they do is utter stupid stuff. I do wonder as to how can these Ulemas from Pakistan/India be this stupid.

The majlis is pretty much Ali Ali Ali and then Lanat Lanat Lanat x 100
Because of this, I refuse to go to Urdu Majlis in Canada, and English lectures all the way!

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Posted 19 August 2012 - 04:31 PM


Well said brother, very well said!
I can relate to this as well.

I am in Canada and for Ramadan and Muharram we get amazing English Alims and academics from which the Majlis here are amazing.
We unfortunately also get some Alims from Pakistan and India where all what they do is utter stupid stuff. I do wonder as to how can these Ulemas from Pakistan/India be this stupid.

The majlis is pretty much Ali Ali Ali and then Lanat Lanat Lanat x 100
Because of this, I refuse to go to Urdu Majlis in Canada, and English lectures all the way!

Mr mind your language just to please some Sunnis you are doing ghibat and hurting the sentiments of Indo pak Shias and as well as ulamas
What ali ali ali ? Ali as is the only one because of which the world has two major Muslims sectors only
Ali is the soul and whole for us Indo pak Shias and will always curse the killers and oppresors no matter you westerners like it or not
We really don't care beleive me and yes if you don't like to go for the Urdu majlis then please don't go , no ulama is going to drag you in his majlis, we luv ali as and ahlulbayt and curse the killers, enemies and oppressors doesn't matter which country we are so please understand this. If you would have been from Indo pak then you would understand this.
There are some viruses which says people should preach the Fazaael of ahlulbayt but they should preach the masaels of fiqh
I am not sAying fiqh is not important but Fazaael also has significant role in protecting shiasm today.
Mind you post next time and think what you are writing should not offend others.
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Posted 19 August 2012 - 06:03 PM

Mr mind your language just to please some Sunnis you are doing ghibat and hurting the sentiments of Indo pak Shias and as well as ulamas
What ali ali ali ? Ali as is the only one because of which the world has two major Muslims sectors only
Ali is the soul and whole for us Indo pak Shias and will always curse the killers and oppresors no matter you westerners like it or not
We really don't care beleive me and yes if you don't like to go for the Urdu majlis then please don't go , no ulama is going to drag you in his majlis, we luv ali as and ahlulbayt and curse the killers, enemies and oppressors doesn't matter which country we are so please understand this. If you would have been from Indo pak then you would understand this.
There are some viruses which says people should preach the Fazaael of ahlulbayt but they should preach the masaels of fiqh
I am not sAying fiqh is not important but Fazaael also has significant role in protecting shiasm today.
Mind you post next time and think what you are writing should not offend others.


Imam Ali (as) is one of the purest personalities and role models we have. And we surely are blessed to have him.

But I see these Indo/Pak maulanas come here and preach that it is Imam Ali (as) who controls the universe. If it rains, thank Imam Ali (as) and much more stuff like that which is sad to hear.
There is a time and place to send Lanat, sending Lanat every minute of the lecture is annoying really.
I have also heard from them that: Lanat on those who they call (ra) . Now they call (ra) to Imam Ali, Imam Hussein etc too. So should I take the 'fatwa' of my dear Indo/Pak maulanas?

The Pakistani ulemas I like, are the ones who left Pakistan 10-15 years ago.
The ones we get here on a consistent basis straight from Pakistan/India preach stuff which doesn't make sense at ALL!

I can give you many more example that I hear from which it is better to sit at home or go to English lectures rather than listen to Ulemas from my home country. :mellow:

Edited by GreyMatter, 19 August 2012 - 06:04 PM.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:44 AM

Brother hothot dont you see the big "some Alims" . Brother Grey didnt generalize and you are jumping to a conclusion. I am a shia from indo/pak and his comments dont hurt my sentiments. emotions should be put to a side brother. A momin is a thinker, not influenced by emotions.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 06:39 AM

On a thread dedicated to bridging the relationship between Sunnis and Shi'as, misunderstandings happen between 2 Shi'as, how ironic.
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 09:07 AM

good to see that sunnis are helping shias

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 09:53 AM

It is true. There are, indeed, those lovely beautiful Sunni folk in this nation who deserve our deepest respects and love. For their sake alone we should exercise maturity and restraint in things like public or loud-speaker assisted tabarra-bazi and never willfully hurt the feelings of the non-Shia by acting ignorantly. Because most of the time I see ignorant "Shia" fellows (who are actually Nusehri) provoking others consistently, for no reason and when its absolutely uncalled for. Only love can garner more love. Hate is answered by hate.

It is high time that we identify, expose, confront and abandon the fitna causing elements among our ranks (because we shelter any and all who utters the name of Ali (as), like Ismailis and Nusehris). Some Sunni brothers are already doing the same by disassociating quite harshly with the Wahabi and Ahl-e-Hadees who provide the recruitment pool for terrorists. These outsiders and neo-Kharijiites are the seditious element throwing gas over the fire since decades, and their method is to identify as either "Shia" (in case of nusehri ghulaat so-called-malangs ismailis etc.) or "Sunni" (in case of Saudi based new militant sects). It is when we all have this awareness in sufficient quantity will we be able to solve the terrorism and sectarian problems, not for others, but for salvaging the future of our own nation.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:02 AM

On a thread dedicated to bridging the relationship between Sunnis and Shi'as, misunderstandings happen between 2 Shi'as, how ironic.


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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:04 AM

There is no biasnes in shiiam.


Of course not. My point was that it's suppose to be a peaceful thread!
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:14 AM

Of course not. My point was that it's suppose to be a peaceful thread!


Yes ofcourse but sigh, the atmosphere here on SC is not like what it should be, peaceful, calm, academic and fruitful.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:19 AM

Yes ofcourse but sigh, the atmosphere here on SC is not like what it should be, peaceful, calm, academic and fruitful.


Definately, it's a real shame
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:33 AM

Definately, it's a real shame


Thats the most disturbing things, i expected much more from a forum like SC but sigh. I even considered quitting SC, but now i am going nowhere.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:37 AM

Thats the most disturbing things, i expected much more from a forum like SC but sigh. I even considered quitting SC, but now i am going nowhere.


Don't quit! Insha'Allah with patience SC will be a place of fraternity rather than constant bickering!
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 10:51 AM

Don't quit! Insha'Allah with patience SC will be a place of fraternity rather than constant bickering!


Now i am defiant. I hope SC becomes the place which it should be.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:19 AM

Now i am defiant. I hope SC becomes the place which it should be.


Insha'Allah :)
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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:08 PM

I am sincerely hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead.

Babusar killings : Sunnis refused to identify Shias in front of terrorists.


This article, published in a reputed newspaper, says that Sunnis tried to protect the Shias and that out of the 22 killed, 4 were Sunnis. They "protested and pressed" and "did not cooperate with them [the terrorists]"

I am hoping this is true, shows humanity isn't dead yet.


This is some really dreadful and awesome news!

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:37 PM

Brother hothot dont you see the big "some Alims" . Brother Grey didnt generalize and you are jumping to a conclusion. I am a shia from indo/pak and his comments dont hurt my sentiments. emotions should be put to a side brother. A momin is a thinker, not influenced by emotions.

Eid mubarak to you as we have it today So brother tell me honestly If this persons thinks like this about some alims then he should go ahead and tell to them or not ?
He is posting this and that over here instead of this he should face them and speak out what he thinks.
If some one is criticizing my olamas then it's my duty to defend them if they are right.
He should behave like a momin first.
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Phir Bhi Usay Logon Ne Kaha hai yeh Jali Hai,
Mai Maut  Talak Jaa ke Bhi Ye Jaan Na Paaya
Jis Ne Mujhe Paala Hai Wo Allah hai Ke Ali Hai

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 03:36 PM

Imam Ali (as) is one of the purest personalities and role models we have. And we surely are blessed to have him.

But I see these Indo/Pak maulanas come here and preach that it is Imam Ali (as) who controls the universe. If it rains, thank Imam Ali (as) and much more stuff like that which is sad to hear.
There is a time and place to send Lanat, sending Lanat every minute of the lecture is annoying really.
I have also heard from them that: Lanat on those who they call (ra) . Now they call (ra) to Imam Ali, Imam Hussein etc too. So should I take the 'fatwa' of my dear Indo/Pak maulanas?

The Pakistani ulemas I like, are the ones who left Pakistan 10-15 years ago.
The ones we get here on a consistent basis straight from Pakistan/India preach stuff which doesn't make sense at ALL!

I can give you many more example that I hear from which it is better to sit at home or go to English lectures rather than listen to Ulemas from my home country. :mellow:


I haven't here anyone yet who said like thanks to ali for rain, nor even that all radi allahs are lanati and if you think that the Lanat is annoying then don't go nobody is going to force you.
It's the month of moharram and the exact time to curse them you think the lanat is annoying but not everybody
If you really think that's it's not good then gp ahead to the organizer and tell them what you feel
Instead of doing ghibat overhere.
Khud Apne Fazaael Ko Chupaya Hai Ali Ne,
Phir Bhi Usay Logon Ne Kaha hai yeh Jali Hai,
Mai Maut  Talak Jaa ke Bhi Ye Jaan Na Paaya
Jis Ne Mujhe Paala Hai Wo Allah hai Ke Ali Hai

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:12 PM

I haven't here anyone yet who said like thanks to ali for rain, nor even that all radi allahs are lanati and if you think that the Lanat is annoying then don't go nobody is going to force you.
It's the month of moharram and the exact time to curse them you think the lanat is annoying but not everybody
If you really think that's it's not good then gp ahead to the organizer and tell them what you feel
Instead of doing ghibat overhere.


I did not say anything to the classical Pakistani/ Indian scholars nor did I generalize.
I said to those who talk that type of stuff I mentioned earlier. And that is why I do not go to those lectures.
Many my age have voiced there opinions but again the crowd who like going there appriciated that kind of stuff and it will continue to happen.

As for Lanat, it is fine ofcourse; but every minute of the lecture is annoying. Maybe not for you, but for me.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 05:41 PM

As for Lanat, it is fine ofcourse; but every minute of the lecture is annoying. Maybe not for you, but for me.


This bit doesn't digest at all...

Sending curse upon people like yazeed, muawiyah, Aisha, the so-called "three caliphs" and many more; even every minute is annoying?

Are you forgetting how they oppressed the Holy Household (as)...

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