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[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

La'natAllah 'alaiyh.

[Follower]

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La'natAllah 'alaiyh.

For the sake of unity with our turkish brothers we must not make la'nah on their leaders...

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

Follower, on 16 August 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

For the sake of unity with our turkish brothers we must not make la'nah on their leaders...

A large majority of sunnies do la'nah on him too

[khameneivoter]

Erdogan is the anti- answer of the islamic revolution. i think turkey will play a big role against muslim interests and erdogan is its executor.

[Follower]

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A large majority of sunnies do la'nah on him too

Alhamdulillah, you can't go wrong when you're with the jama'ah.

[Gypsy]

Follower, on 16 August 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

For the sake of unity with our turkish brothers we must not make la'nah on their leaders...

This is crazy.

You want to have unity with politicians?

[south-lebanon]

If there was anyone out there in the world that closely resembles the "Dajjal" (a subject many people talk about at the moment), in actions, it would be erdogan, he pretended to be the good guy and bluffed allot of people while doing so, and then he shed his true colors once trust was gained and when he thought the conditions were right for him to strike, even Syed Hassan once called him "ya tayib" during the gaza flottila incident, when Israel murdered 17 of his Turkish citizens in international waters, he pretended to be upset about Israels crime and demanded justice, yet, what did he do about it, absolutely nothing, then he flies Turkish aircraft into a country which he foments terrorism in, and when the crafts were shot down, he called them a "act of war" and a crime that can't go unpunished for the dignity of Turkey....lol hes a true hypocrite, his actions prove he is really is on the same side as Israel, he allows his country to be used as a base for terrorism and chaos in Syria, a country which he worked so hard to create good relations with and win over its trust, his family even vacationed with Assad's during happy times, if there was ever an "imposter" in todays world, erdogan will surely have the prize..

[ShiaBen]

Follower, on 16 August 2012 - 04:30 PM, said:

For the sake of unity with our turkish brothers we must not make la'nah on their leaders...

This is not true bro.

A lot of Turkish Muslims are bitter with Erdogan as well.

[Follower]

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This is crazy.
You want to have unity with politicians?

You're saying this like the oppressors of the ahlulbayt weren't politicians.

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This is not true bro.
A lot of Turkish Muslims are bitter with Erdogan as well.

It was a tongue in cheek statement brother. Alhamdulillah, we are zealous when it comes to condemning modern-day oppressors, but when it comes to the oppressors of the ahlulbayt we say "we won't do it because our Imam didn't do it". 3anjad?

People need to make up their minds.

Wallahu A'lam

[MohammadReza]

Salaam Alaikum.

May Allah shine light on the grave of Professor Erbakan -- he was the former prime minister of Turkey who was forced out of power from a western backed army. Prof. Erbakan was a great man who strived hard to bring Turkey away from the west and towards its natural home in the Middle East. He was a Muslim leader who was unfortunately amongst a rarity who did not subscribe to secterianism. If I am not mistaken his son stated to an Iranian paper how his father thought highly of Iran, stating something to the effect "in Turkey, we are the opposition, but in Iran we are ruling majority". Allah Bless his soul.

Prof. Erbakan not too long before his passing away warned that Erdogan is part of Jewish conspiracy:
http://www.todayszam...n?newsId=228841

It should be noted that Erdogan considered Prof. Erbakan a mentor and even cut his trip from abroad to attend his funeral. http://www.worldbull...ArticleID=70479

His mentor knew him really well it seems as Erbogan's behavior recently is proving Erbakan correct.

[Noah-]

south-lebanon, on 16 August 2012 - 05:10 PM, said:

If there was anyone out there in the world that closely resembles the "Dajjal" (a subject many people talk about at the moment), in actions, it would be erdogan, he pretended to be the good guy and bluffed allot of people while doing so, and then he shed his true colors once trust was gained and when he thought the conditions were right for him to strike, even Syed Hassan once called him "ya tayib" during the gaza flottila incident, when Israel murdered 17 of his Turkish citizens in international waters, he pretended to be upset about Israels crime and demanded justice, yet, what did he do about it, absolutely nothing, then he flies Turkish aircraft into a country which he foments terrorism in, and when the crafts were shot down, he called them a "act of war" and a crime that can't go unpunished for the dignity of Turkey....lol hes a true hypocrite, his actions prove he is really is on the same side as Israel, he allows his country to be used as a base for terrorism and chaos in Syria, a country which he worked so hard to create good relations with and win over its trust, his family even vacationed with Assad's during happy times, if there was ever an "imposter" in todays world, erdogan will surely have the prize..

In politics there is no such thing as permanent ally or enemy...especially when the person in question does not share the same principle (as in specific religious principle) as you do.

Anyhow, some might see these incidents as the Zionists are using Turkey or Qatar against others... is partly right and partly wrong.

The Zionists are using both Turkey and Qatar against Turkey and Qatar...against their own long-term interests....especially Turkey. Turkey could go on and improve, build up its economy, military power and more important its status in the Muslim world.. kind of a recovery after years of being a Zionist puppet.. But, now bringing Turkey directly against Iraq, Iran, Syria, Hizb, and all those large and small groups loyal to these countries and groups is not a joke... Turkey might not realized that, but will feel and realize these big mistakes within the next two years...

It is not realizing that while the Zionists are using Turkey against its own interests, on the other hand they are building up the might, the cause and open the ground for the establishment of a FREE KURDISTAN.. the things going to be in such a condition that Turkey then will not be able to do anything about it, things will be out of hand.

And I am sure that I am not the only person who realized that the entire Iraqi invasion was never been to topple Saddam, or unwillingly enable Iran to gain power by overthrowing the Baathist regime, or empower Shias of Iraq or the oil and etc...Only for Kurdistan!

For some reasons they were REALLY INTERESTED in preparing the ground for a Kurdistan state that would include all Kurdish regions of the 4 countries.. why the Zionists are really interested in such a state and in such a chaos in the region, that is really interesting to know... could be religious, political or related to their economy... but now according to the developments, the unrest in Iraq and almost everything is done to prepare the ground for such a case..inside Iraq and outside Iraq.

[south-lebanon]

Noah-, on 17 August 2012 - 09:32 PM, said:

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The Zionists are using both Turkey and Qatar against Turkey and Qatar...against their own long-term interests....especially Turkey. Turkey could go on and improve, build up its economy, military power and more important its status in the Muslim world.. kind of a recovery after years of being a Zionist puppet.. But, now bringing Turkey directly against Iraq, Iran, Syria, Hizb, and all those large and small groups loyal to these countries and groups is not a joke... Turkey might not realized that, but will feel and realize these big mistakes within the next two years...

I agree Turkey will definitely feel the effects of this in the long run, and they may well already realize they have made a big miscalculation, considering their goals have not been remotely reached yet and the realization that perhaps they may never be reached, while as a consequence they have brought the destabilization into their own country, upset their neighbors and then their economy is bound to really start feeling the pinch. however the problem for Turkey is they may be too far into this to pull out now, If Turkey was just to give up on its Syrian project and its provocation towards Baghdad, then the ramifications of it mistakes will be felt easily for the next 50 years or more.

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For some reasons they were REALLY INTERESTED in preparing the ground for a Kurdistan state that would include all Kurdish regions of the 4 countries.. why the Zionists are really interested in such a state and in such a chaos in the region, that is really interesting to know... could be religious, political or related to their economy... but now according to the developments, the unrest in Iraq and almost everything is done to prepare the ground for such a case..inside Iraq and outside Iraq

IMO the US has BIG plans for the middle east, their plans for Iraq didn't go perfectly to plan but they are just on hold at the moment or being played out very lightly,they already prove that if you are 1 of the puppets or very weak they will remove you very easily...ie Libya and Iraq, don't discount on them removing the Saudis and qatari regimes in the distant future as a finalization of their massive geo-political shake up. They are very cunnning is their plans!

unity is what they fear and divide and conquere is their plan,  so another massive carve up of the middle east along secterain lines might be just what they seek.

This may be a likely scenario on what they hope to achieve, as you can see their allies are not indispensable.





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Edited by south-lebanon, 17 August 2012 - 11:07 PM.

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MohammadReza, on 17 August 2012 - 09:20 PM, said:

Salaam Alaikum.

May Allah shine light on the grave of Professor Erbakan -- he was the former prime minister of Turkey who was forced out of power from a western backed army. Prof. Erbakan was a great man who strived hard to bring Turkey away from the west and towards its natural home in the Middle East. He was a Muslim leader who was unfortunately amongst a rarity who did not subscribe to secterianism. If I am not mistaken his son stated to an Iranian paper how his father thought highly of Iran, stating something to the effect "in Turkey, we are the opposition, but in Iran we are ruling majority". Allah Bless his soul.

Prof. Erbakan not too long before his passing away warned that Erdogan is part of Jewish conspiracy:
http://www.todayszam...n?newsId=228841

It should be noted that Erdogan considered Prof. Erbakan a mentor and even cut his trip from abroad to attend his funeral. http://www.worldbull...ArticleID=70479

His mentor knew him really well it seems as Erbogan's behavior recently is proving Erbakan correct.

Interesting.

[dnfo]

Next Israeli war would target Iran and Pakistan in order to destroy their nuclear plants and Egyptian sinai will be totally annexed to Isreal.

[Ricky-Dee]

dnfo, on 18 August 2012 - 02:07 PM, said:

Next Israeli war would target Iran and Pakistan in order to destroy their nuclear plants and Egyptian sinai will be totally annexed to Isreal.

Yes and bugs bunny will be the first person to ever land on mars