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#26 Aarash_Australia

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Posted 13 August 2012 - 04:44 AM

View Post~Ruqaya, on 12 August 2012 - 03:37 PM, said:

You really dont, just cross the channel. Ive been to Paris a couple of times and i found Parisians to be the most actively hostile ppl i have ever encountered and their police force the most rude and unhelpful. I suspect this rudeness is partially just about it being a big city though. I think capital cities are not a great way to judge a country, at least in Europe, because they tend to be over crowded and far too busy, which makes ppl stressed and more weary of one another.




Yep i do too actually =D but some ppl might find it rude or confusing if theyre not used to it.



Paris is a dream compared to London.

In my opinion.

It's possible to actually have an intelligent conversation with the inhabitants there - instead of having your ears and mind assaulted by profanity and slang. And god forbid you should walk past the wrong ethnic-gang in London by yourself at night....

I've lived in both. Can't stand London.




But I get your point about the police - the British police do tend to be more polite than their continental counterparts.

However the Irish police, they are really something. Best cops in the world! (Danish cops are also pretty cool. Oh, and Japanese)

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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:40 PM

Lets just accept the fact Australia wins hands down.

How many of you guys got a gigantic rock in the middle of the desert, a giant Pineapple or a snazzy looking bridge? :lol:
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Posted 29 April 2013 - 11:54 PM

View PostAli Musaaa :), on 29 April 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Lets just accept the fact Australia wins hands down.

How many of you guys got a gigantic rock in the middle of the desert, a giant Pineapple or a snazzy looking bridge? :lol:

How many of us have Julia Gillard as our PM?  :sick:
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Posted 30 April 2013 - 12:49 AM

View Postcoldcow, on 11 August 2012 - 06:21 PM, said:

Why are you singling out guns?  Of course there are going to be more gun deaths in the US than the UK, people don't have the freedom to have guns in the UK, and it's a tiny Island - it's easier to keep them from being smuggled in.  Murder is murder, whether it is by gun or by pencil.  But the US still has a higher rate there.
To all:  I would add...
Keeping in mind that to compare apples with apples... not apples and oranges...
you must take into consideration the much larger size of the U.S. and how does the population count compare with that of the UK?

Reading through this thread it seems to me that it matters not so much the country, as much as the circles you happen to walk in within that country.  Every country has all sorts of people and problems.  There's no such thing as a perfect place... not in this world... not on this planet.
Also depends on what kind of person you are, and what kind of people you are used to.  Someone described the friendliness of the U.S. as fake... maybe that's just because they are not used to such friendliness.  Someone else mentioned how people who are more reserved can seem unfriendly.  What we are accustomed to affects our level of trust.  We usually trust more, people whom we find to be like ourselves.
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I want to add to the thread...
Would you say U.S., UK, or Canada? :)

View PostAli Musaaa :), on 29 April 2013 - 11:40 PM, said:

Lets just accept the fact Australia wins hands down.
Oh yes, let's throw Australia in the mix too.  Who would choose Australia? :)

Edited by CLynn, 30 April 2013 - 12:46 AM.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 01:32 AM

Both suck.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:26 AM

View PostdfdfRandolphdfdf, on 30 April 2013 - 01:32 AM, said:

Both suck.

Succinct.

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Posted 30 April 2013 - 03:49 AM

View Postwonderer, on 11 August 2012 - 07:52 PM, said:

lol yes it's sorta like a ghetto it's Manchester :sick:
yah I have private health care in the UK now mashallah al7amdilah and it's slightly better coz I pay for it :donno:
but US was just great in comparison :yaali:


View PostRuq, on 11 August 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

O, i did spend a couple of hours there once, didnt get much of an impression but when we were lost on the bus ppl were quick to help us out and very jokey and friendly, but thats not really much to go on. I also get a mixed impression of Manchester, it seems to have 2 images, one very down to earth, old fashioned and friendly (like Coronation Street) and another which is really brash, very sarcy, dry humour and quite rude...like the Gallagher brothers :donno:

Hahaha i live in manchester and we like to be "brash, very sarcy, dry humour and quite rude" its our 'outside face' but inside we are really nice people :P

I Love the UK but i wont say its better then the USA, each one has positives and negatives. No place on this earth is perfect otherwise it'd be known as heaven. Ive never actually been to the usa so cant talk about it but you always get the impression that americans are more influenced by the media. In the UK we make up our own minds about life and we live the way we want to.

I do hate the work hours and the low salaries in this country though, people benefit more living on benefits then working and getting half their salary taken as tax!

I'll need to visit USA before i can truely judge it.

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Posted 01 May 2013 - 08:32 PM

UK, that is all

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 06:27 PM

View PostChange4life, on 01 May 2013 - 08:32 PM, said:

UK, that is all

LOL!

No.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:37 PM

View Postwonderer, on 11 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

after living in both countries mashallah, let me tell u, US is def my first choice. UK isn't even a choice. UK is the worst place that I've ever lived in.
bingo!!!

View Postwonderer, on 11 August 2012 - 06:15 PM, said:

FOOD&Technology
odd combo...

Edited by Wahdat, 08 May 2013 - 08:40 PM.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:57 PM

US is the best place for shias :P If I tell the real reason, everyone will agree with me. I wish they would improve their health care system, it's really expensive. Desis complain that americans are like machines/ robots but that means that I don't have to deal with men staring at me everytime I go out of the house and that is such a great blessing. Americans have to work very hard but that's not a bad thing. Islam gives great value to working hard and halal rizq means working hard for money you earn.

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Posted 10 May 2013 - 03:06 AM

UK or USA...who gives a flying f... about both...its funny when Muslims brag to be from there, when the citizens in USA and UK and the governments hate the sh*t out of them...

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Posted 15 May 2013 - 02:18 PM

View PostJohn Al-Ameli, on 10 May 2013 - 03:06 AM, said:

UK or USA...who gives a flying f... about both...its funny when Muslims brag to be from there, when the citizens in USA and UK and the governments hate the sh*t out of them...
While there may be some folks, may be a lot (who really knows?), that hate Muslims, the vast majority will still defend your right to practice your religion as long as you don't impose it on them and as long as you don't violate local laws.  How many Muslim countries can we say that about?  Even in Saudi, a shia has virtually no freedom compared to in the US.  And if you disagree with something the government is doing, you have the right to publicly voice your disapproval and attempt to vote them out of office.  You try that in the majority of Muslim countries and you'll end up in jail, beaten, or both (if not dead).

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Posted 16 May 2013 - 02:09 AM

View Postcoldcow, on 15 May 2013 - 02:18 PM, said:

While there may be some folks, may be a lot (who really knows?), that hate Muslims, the vast majority will still defend your right to practice your religion as long as you don't impose it on them and as long as you don't violate local laws.  How many Muslim countries can we say that about?  Even in Saudi, a shia has virtually no freedom compared to in the US.  And if you disagree with something the government is doing, you have the right to publicly voice your disapproval and attempt to vote them out of office.  You try that in the majority of Muslim countries and you'll end up in jail, beaten, or both (if not dead).
While in USA or UK, you could have your phone tapped, or put in jail, probably raped as well...

Just because the Arab and Muslim world is put on the Media, it doesnt mean the Western world has so much humanity.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:04 PM

View PostJohn Al-Ameli, on 16 May 2013 - 02:09 AM, said:

While in USA or UK, you could have your phone tapped, or put in jail, probably raped as well...

Just because the Arab and Muslim world is put on the Media, it doesnt mean the Western world has so much humanity.

But you need a warrant to do such things, and a judge has to approve it for probable cause (excluding extenuating circumstances.)  You can't be held in jail without being charged for a crime.  Sure you could be raped, but that's by other prisoners, and I'm sure you're just as likely to get raped in an Arab country as in the US.  And, if the police fail to get a warrant before searching your property, nothing they obtain can be used against you in court.  If they fail to read you your rights, nothing you say can be used against you in court.  And if they use excessive and unnecessary force, you can take them to court and if you win they will owe you money for medical bills and damages!  You can stand 5 feet from a member of congress, or a police officer, or even the president and should obscene things at them, and as long as you don't threaten them, they can do nothing to you.

Show me where in the Arab/Muslim world a regular citizen, even a homeless man, can win a court case against a police officer?  Or even take one to court!  Or call the leader of their country horrible things to their face or on TV, and not end up without a job, in jail, beaten, or dead!



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