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[Ali.20]

AlSalam Alaykum:

I need to ask some questions.
1.What is the purpose of crying and mourning AhlulBayt?
2.if we can directly pray to Allah swt, why don't we?
3. Is it really Shirk when we say "Ya Ali!" and "Ya Hussain!" and visit their shrines and kiss them?

Thanks

[Hasan0404]

ahlulbayti, on 10 August 2012 - 07:40 AM, said:

wa 'alaikumm warah matullah

I suggest you refer to your marja..best place to start

fi aman Allah

Ahlubyti, ali brother seems to be our sunni brother, so he dont have any marjaa.

Wasalam brother,

I do have answer for ur questions but i fear i dont have references. iA someone with references will answer ur questions soon.

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

lol, that's like asking what's the purpose of mourning the murder of your own parents.

[Seif]

Ali.20, on 10 August 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

AlSalam Alaykum:

I need to ask some questions.
1.What is the purpose of crying and mourning AhlulBayt?
2.if we can directly pray to Allah swt, why don't we?
3. Is it really Shirk when we say "Ya Ali!" and "Ya Hussain!" and visit their shrines and kiss them?

Thanks

1. To show our love and respect for Ahlulbayt .  The progeny of the prophet who brought this religion had to live under constant oppression.
2. We pray directly to Allah, praying to anyone or anything else is haraam, where did you get the idea that we pray to anyone else?
3. You should see Ahlulbayt as a rope to Allah swt, many many muslims think we place the prophet and ahlulbayt horizantally to Allah swt, but that is wrong. It's vertically, we use ahlulbayt to reach Allah swt.


May Allah guide us, hope I answered your questions.

[Ali.20]

Hasan0404, on 10 August 2012 - 08:19 AM, said:

Ahlubyti, ali brother seems to be our sunni brother, so he dont have any marjaa.

Wasalam brother,

I do have answer for ur questions but i fear i dont have references. iA someone with references will answer ur questions soon.

My Marja is Sayed Sistani.

Seif, on 10 August 2012 - 09:46 AM, said:

1. To show our love and respect for Ahlulbayt .  The progeny of the prophet who brought this religion had to live under constant oppression.
2. We pray directly to Allah, praying to anyone or anything else is haraam, where did you get the idea that we pray to anyone else?
3. You should see Ahlulbayt as a rope to Allah swt, many many muslims think we place the prophet and ahlulbayt horizantally to Allah swt, but that is wrong. It's vertically, we use ahlulbayt to reach Allah swt.


May Allah guide us, hope I answered your questions.

It's because many of our Muslim brothers think that we are Kuffar.
2. I meant that we are asking AhlulBayt AS. Imam Musa Al Kadhim AS is known as the Door of Needs. We read Dua and ask him so Allah would response to our needs. Why can't we just pray to Allah swt so he would response to our needs?
3. Just like I said, many of our Muslim brothers accuse us of being Kuffar and that why we curse the Sahaba and that what we are doing is Kufur.

[Seif]

Ali.20, on 10 August 2012 - 04:05 PM, said:

My Marja is Sayed Sistani.


It's because many of our Muslim brothers think that we are Kuffar.
2. I meant that we are asking AhlulBayt AS. Imam Musa Al Kadhim AS is known as the Door of Needs. We read Dua and ask him so Allah would response to our needs. Why can't we just pray to Allah swt so he would response to our needs?
3. Just like I said, many of our Muslim brothers accuse us of being Kuffar and that why we curse the Sahaba and that what we are doing is Kufur.

Only because of the misconceptions, they don't bother to read WHY. They just listen to what the scholars say and believe them. Thats why some think we worship Ali or believe that the angels were wrong in giving prophethood to Muhammd pbuhahp. Some of those accusations wallah haha they let me laugh.

If Allah swt has created the imams to reach us, why can we not use them to reach Allah swt?

One needs to examine the topic about sahaba indepth. Non Shia think the school of ahlulbayt is founded on the cursing of the sahaba. But to many Sunni muslims the sahaba are abu bakr omar uthman and that is where it ends, one needs to ask himself the question - what about all the sahaba that stood up against the usurping of the khalifa of imam Ali and were killed because of it.

If you open the books of hadith of ahl ul sunna, there are many hadiths on how rasulallah pbuhahp said that his sahaba will go astray after he passes away.

[Walkin' Fashion Statement]

LOL Wouldn't you do that if a loved one died for you? The imams all died for us just to keep shias alive. They love us so much to the point of sacraficing their lives for us to go to jannah.

[Fuan]

Ali.20, on 10 August 2012 - 07:38 AM, said:

AlSalam Alaykum:

I need to ask some questions.
1.What is the purpose of crying and mourning AhlulBayt?
2.if we can directly pray to Allah swt, why don't we?
3. Is it really Shirk when we say "Ya Ali!" and "Ya Hussain!" and visit their shrines and kiss them?

Thanks

another troll...?

1. Because not crying would be a wahabi bid'a
2. We do
3. It's not