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[islam313]

what is the islamic view point of the childen of isreal and about the palistinan-isreal conflict going on

[JawzofDETH]

Traditionally the children of Israel, rejected Isa (Jesus), became haughty, astray and slew their messengers ;

Regarding todays Jews we supplicate Allah guide them away from this unholy doctrine called 'Zionism'

The Islamic viewpoint would side with Palestinians as they are oppressed unjustly.
Islam always sides with the oppressed, never the oppressor,
Was-Salaam

Edited by JawzofDETH, 08 August 2012 - 09:24 AM.

[AliHussainFaraji]

JawzofDETH, on 08 August 2012 - 09:14 AM, said:

Traditionally the children of Israel, rejected Isa (Jesus), became haughty, astray and slew their messengers

Surah As-Sajda, Ayah 24-25:
{24} "And amongst them We appointed imams to guide [the people] by Our command, when they had been patient and had conviction in Our signs."
{25} "Indeed your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that about which they used to differ."


It is important that you don't confuse the immigrants from Europe to Palestine as the 'Children of Israel' mentioned in the Quran.

As for whose side you should be on, Palestine without any doubt.

[islam313]

thank you but in the quran it states that Allah has promised them a land was that Palestine or no?

[JawzofDETH]

AliHussainFaraji, on 08 August 2012 - 06:38 PM, said:

Surah As-Sajda, Ayah 24-25:
{24} "And amongst them We appointed imams to guide [the people] by Our command, when they had been patient and had conviction in Our signs."
{25} "Indeed your Lord will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection concerning that about which they used to differ."


It is important that you don't confuse the immigrants from Europe to Palestine as the 'Children of Israel' mentioned in the Quran.

What the heck are you on about?
Are you trying to say they didn't do the things I mentioned, shall I also quote verses?

Do you understand what "traditionally" means vs "todays Jews."
In future please correct people when they are wrong, not when you don't understand them,
Was-Salaam

Edited by JawzofDETH, 10 August 2012 - 09:10 AM.

[AliHussainFaraji]

JawzofDETH, on 10 August 2012 - 09:09 AM, said:

What the heck are you on about?
Are you trying to say they didn't do the things I mentioned, shall I also quote verses?

Do you understand what "traditionally" means vs "todays Jews."
In future please correct people when they are wrong, not when you don't understand them,
Was-Salaam

1) Relax, I cited the wrong Ayahs from the Quran.

Surah An-Nisa, Ayah 157-158:
{157} "and for their saying, ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of Allah’ —though they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but so it was made to appear to them. Indeed those who differ concerning him are surely in doubt about him: they do not have any knowledge of that beyond following conjectures, and certainly they did not kill him."
{158} "Rather Allah raised him up toward Himself, and Allah is all-mighty, all-wise."

2) I don't know if you noticed, but I didn't quote the second part of your post talking about 'today's Jews', meaning I was talking to the OP when I said it's important not to confuse the 'Children of Israel' with the Israelis of today. Maybe you should work on your reading comprehension skills before you start acting like an immature douchebag ironically talking about not understanding another's post. Just a suggestion.
Was-Salaam

[JawzofDETH]

You must admit that you were not as clear as you should have been.
With that I say peace.

Was-Salaam

Edited by JawzofDETH, 11 August 2012 - 08:08 PM.

[AliHussainFaraji]

islam313, on 08 August 2012 - 07:02 PM, said:

thank you but in the quran it states that Allah has promised them a land was that Palestine or no?

No, even in Judaism they don't believe the land of Palestine is promised to them. Jews believe that it was promised to them until they become mischievous and cause corruption in the land, at which point God would revoke it from them, which is what happened according to the Jewish scripture. Furthermore, it is explicitly forbidden for Jews to have or create a Jewish state in the Torah.

This Rabbi talks about it briefly at 3:20 in this video: