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[Against oneself]

when taliban fell it was good for us
when saddam fell it was good for us

what good will come from the fall of assad? either pro Israeli - american stooges or shia hating wahabis will come to power ..... where is the silver lining in this dark cloud?

will iran now become weaker?

[Belial]

Against oneself, on 20 July 2012 - 06:30 PM, said:

when taliban fell it was good for us
when saddam fell it was good for us

what good will come from the fall of assad? either pro Israeli - american stooges or shia hating wahabis will come to power ..... where is the silver lining in this dark cloud?

will iran now become weaker?

Events occur often in beneficial ways to the people in relation to the event.  If enough people are fighting against the Assad regime, it is likely that, that number of people, in the long run will benefit.  The people of Syria, will, I believe, in the long run, prosper.  This may not be the last revolution, but eventually, a comfortable equilibrium will be met.

[Dagga]

Look at Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.

[ShiaBen]

Great thread bro. Not sure if Iran would become weaker. Though I think its work will become a lot more tedious. Hezbollah, Iran, and company will have to come up with new solutions, methods, and ideas to strengthen relations in the ME.

[Goku]

Dagga, on 20 July 2012 - 06:52 PM, said:

Look at Egypt, Tunisia and Libya.

They are all worse now than before....

[macisaac]

Instead of thinking what's in it for us, why not think of what's right in itself?

[MysticKnight]

macisaac, on 20 July 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Instead of thinking what's in it for us, why not think of what's right in itself?

Well said.

[Against oneself]

so having american puppets or wahabi terrorists is right in itself?


i cant see it working. the puppets will have a dispute with the wahabis.

[Noah-]

macisaac, on 20 July 2012 - 08:10 PM, said:

Instead of thinking what's in it for us, why not think of what's right in itself?

Agreed!

And I am 100% sure it is not going to be the sectarian-terrorist opposition to be right in itself!

[ali12]

hopefully the  yamaani will reveal

[Love-Of-Islam]

happiness to other muslims

[Noah-]

Against oneself, on 20 July 2012 - 08:24 PM, said:

i cant see it working. the puppets will have a dispute with the wahabis.

Bro, for real you think the west is after a government in Syria or they will be able to topple and install a regime there? That is a big no-no even if they kill Assad tomorrow. The point is how to weaken Syria, create sectarian tension in the country and in the region, push for a civil war and prepare an Israeli domination of the Arab world in the region. The only countries that will be safe from Israelis are going to be the Shia countries or regions (Iraq, North Yemen and possibly south Lebanon) with links to Iran.

Syria, the backbone of the resistance groups of Lebanon and Palestine, and a wall standing and preventing Israeli expansion must be thrown to the ground, that is the real goal, nothing less and nothing MORE. The powerful Syrian military/intelligence is targeted with hundreds of millions of dollars, which is not for no reason.

[Chris]

ShiaBen, on 20 July 2012 - 07:25 PM, said:

Great thread bro. Not sure if Iran would become weaker. Though I think its work will become a lot more tedious. Hezbollah, Iran, and company will have to come up with new solutions, methods, and ideas to strengthen relations in the ME.

Of course Hezbollah will be weaker.

Their bridge to Syria who has been aiding their logistics will be broken.

That being said, from a "US perspective," there is going to be a major rise in Takfiri Wahabi Salafi jihadist groups who will probably kidnap, behead, abduct American and western nationals.  Church bombings against Christians, probably suicide attacks against the Shia.

Lastly, I always supported Assad's demise as I seen him as the leader of a regime which committed mass atrocities against Lebanon, but looking at the state of the rebels and those behind them, I am having second thoughts about which is worse.  The revolution has changed my perspective of the Assad regime.

Things are not so clear, things are not as they seem.  These are Taliab style mujahideen.

This is NOT good.

Edited by Chris, 20 July 2012 - 09:19 PM.

[awaiting_for_the.12th]

Anyway you look at it, if Assad goes its probably the end of Shias and Alwais living in Syria. If people believe that by overthrowing Assad there will be democracy and stability in that region then they are for sure delusional.
Its easy to think whats "right", but then the next step is also to think what will be the consequences of that. If Assad leaves, you really think FSA after fighting for so long, will just forget everything, hug the alawis and christians, give them their rights. If thats how people think than i suggest to put down Meth.

[ImamAliwabas]

Hard to know what will happen.  . A secular govt will be good for lebanon and alawites. but if these salafis take power god help us. syria raps all around lebanon and shia areas are a stone throw away from syria leb border. A nation of 27 million mostly sunnis and sunni north lebanon will rip us to shreds no matter how hard we fight. But there is a possibility Israel want the salafists to rule syria and lebanon cause it will rid Irans influence in its region.Especially  since Iran will go nuclear in a few years Israel will not want any borders around it that will give iran a base it is why Israel is planning this revolution . In this case assad and Nasrallah are finished.A nuclear Iran with no syria or lebanon controlled by shias and possibly western Iraq is far away from Israel and poses no threat to it. this will save israel having strike iran.

[Asad_127]

ImamAliwabas, on 21 July 2012 - 07:14 AM, said:

Hard to know what will happen.  . A secular govt will be good for lebanon and alawites. but if these salafis take power god help us. syria raps all around lebanon and shia areas are a stone throw away from syria leb border. A nation of 27 million mostly sunnis and sunni north lebanon will rip us to shreds no matter how hard we fight. But there is a possibility Israel want the salafists to rule syria and lebanon cause it will rid Irans influence in its region.Especially  since Iran will go nuclear in a few years Israel will not want any borders around it that will give iran a base it is why Israel is planning this revolution . In this case assad and Nasrallah are finished.A nuclear Iran with no syria or lebanon controlled by shias and possibly western Iraq is far away from Israel and poses no threat to it. this will save israel having strike iran.

You forgot about the Alawite Heartland and Latakia and Tartus in Syria. Majority Alawite Provinces. I wouldn't be surprised to see an Alawite State or them try to declare their independence. Also like i said, Russia has its Base in Tartus. Theres no way that they will just give it up that easily, They have even said. If anything happens, I am sure that Lebanon can give Russia a Beirut Base for protection. Allah(swt) knows best.

One thing we always forget that we need to keep in mind is that THE BEST IS YET TO COME. Just keep that in mind IA.

[HellHound]

On one side, you have a brutal dictator who slaughters civilians like pigs... On the other, you have extremist Jihadi retards no different from Assad himself who go under the banner of FSA... So who am I to support here again...?

[punjabishia]

Based on the Islamic principle of righteousness and jurisprudence, whom shall we support ?

For Iran, Allah (SWT) shall open other avenues as long as it is righteous in the majority.