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[Aftahb]

TO
Auzer



http://www.shiachat....rategic-forces/


"The purpose of this thread is to dispel the myths of brainwashed Indian nationalists on this forum , who think that india is some sort of mega power etc...

I just wanted to show them the reality of their country ...

See other threads made by Aftahb and see his delusions there.... "


http://www.shiachat....<br /> <br /> U hve come out of ur hole to fight and attack me , Which is gr8 .
But more gr8 is the hatred and jealous that burns inside ur heart, alone forever.

U should know when U speak of India, with so much with passion of hate. That India has 150 million shias and indeed ur hate also targets them. GOD forbid if war ever happens between INDO PAK. it will be the Biggest mistake.  Ppl like u, who hve no respect for human life. But stupid honor and so called Bloody GLory remains their passion can only benefit from this tragedy.
THE war of IRAQ and Iran should be our best example to avoid such happenin in any part of the world.

IF u reali want to take a stand against India:

1stly try to stop the over flow of pashtoon into Pakistan. So that Pakistan becomes more safe.

2nd stop taliban frm misusing Pakistan.

3rd the most important. Dont let another BIN LADEN live in peace with military protection in Pakistan. ONly with these steps. Pakistan can gain trust worthy recognition in the eyes of the world and its own safety.  

4th THE gr8 pakistani feeling that u carry with ur soul and heart organ should come it its lost sense, that each yr Pakistan fails to protects SHias ( Or perhaps govt is part of killing aswell)  I wont go into exact numbers but its more than 1000 killings each Muharram.
The Govt, the Army, the Bloody honor u hve dreamt of. Is the Killer of Pakistani SHias, in which i ve also lostaCousin.

NOW LET ME FINISH THIS USELESS THREAD WHICH HAD ONLY ONE AIM AND THAT WAS TO Reply to ur hate msg and also to ALERT U, is that..

India is ur very strong neighbor and instead of keeping hate and jealousy. U should think of friendship and a gr8 alliance for Pakistan's sunset like redness. Maybe With the help of India, Pakistan can shine again. Its better to hve a strong friend than a strong enemy, enemy will combine with other enemies and destroy u. While ur friend will fight for u, even when its hands r cut and its legs r amputated.

Plz think of friendship not war!
War can only bring an everlasting sadness, grief and curse of thousands of mothers, who hve dreams for their kids marriages, family life. etc.  
The victory that stands on innocents blood, isnt victory but a major defeat for all mankind.

salam

Edited by Aftahb, 19 July 2012 - 11:22 PM.

[Walkin' Fashion Statement]

idk why I posted that. -_______-

[Auzer]

Aftahb, on 19 July 2012 - 10:50 PM, said:

TO
Auzer



http://www.shiachat....rategic-forces/


"The purpose of this thread is to dispel the myths of brainwashed Indian nationalists on this forum , who think that india is some sort of mega power etc...

I just wanted to show them the reality of their country ...

See other threads made by Aftahb and see his delusions there.... "


http://www.shiachat....<br /> <br /> U hve come out of ur hole to fight and attack me , Which is gr8 .
But more gr8 is the hatred and jealous that burns inside ur heart, alone forever.

U should know when U speak of India, with so much with passion of hate. That India has 150 million shias and indeed ur hate also targets them. GOD forbid if war ever happens between INDO PAK. it will be the Biggest mistake.  Ppl like u, who hve no respect for human life. But stupid honor and so called Bloody GLory remains their passion can only benefit from this tragedy.
THE war of IRAQ and Iran should be our best example to avoid such happenin in any part of the world.

No one is attacking you. It were you , Nawab , and some other gullible Indians that were posting news of 'Indian missile tests' and mocking Pakistan by saying "Pakistan is just a bug , India is tiger" , "Pakistan will be finished once India decides to punish Pakistan" blah blah...

Such were the statements of you people which led me to enlighten the forumers about the actual situation on ground , since I knew about the subject first hand , I felt to dispel misconceptions of Indians .

Indians should keep in mind that any war with Pakistan will end India forever. So , this attitude of "Oh we are tiger , you are bug" should be contained...because neither it is true , nor you can have this attitude vis-a-via Pakistan.

So it was nothing against you...but against a 'trend' I saw in this "South Asia" forum. I hope now indians will get some sense and stop this useless chest-thumping.

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India is ur very strong neighbor and instead of keeping hate and jealousy.

It is only Indians who hate Pakistan , Pakistanis don't (Talking about general trend). Regarding "jealousy" , there is NOTHING in India to make Pakistan jealous. I know you have been brainwashed by your 'Shinning India media bullsh!t" , but let me tell you that Pakistan and India are in same-ball park when it comes to GDP per Capita , poverty levels , youth-literacy , current account balance , inflation rates , infrastructure etc etc..So why would we be "jealous" of India? You do realize that your country has MORE poverty than WHOLE AFRICA combined (Source : BBC report) ? There are many other such stats.... Just don't go there...

Bottomline : NOBODY in Pakistan would be 'jealous' of a country like India.

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U should think of friendship and a gr8 alliance for Pakistan's sunset like redness. Maybe With the help of India, Pakistan can shine again. Its better to hve a strong friend than a strong enemy, enemy will combine with other enemies and destroy u. While ur friend will fight for u, even when its hands r cut and its legs r amputated.

Plz think of friendship not war!
War can only bring an everlasting sadness, grief and curse of thousands of mothers, who hve dreams for their kids marriages, family life. etc.  
The victory that stands on innocents blood, isnt victory but a major defeat for all mankind.

salam

I'm all for co-operation between India and Pakistan. Sorry but it is YOUR hawks that don't want friendship. As I told you , I am from defence-related background , do you know the "military deployment" of India? It is ALL against Pakistan.... We are now talking about "Cricket" , and WHOLE Indian media is crying that cricket should not be played with Pakistanis..so tell me ...who doesn't want friendship? Its obviously India. India should forget the dream of dominating South Asia.... Pakistan will NEVER accept indian hegemony in the region. Friendship should be based on equal terms...We don't want another USA in the form of India...

What confidence building measures have you taken? You are deteriorating relations further..

-Have you pull your forces back? No you didn't! Even though you CAN because you are the bigger boy on border..
- You are building dams on Pakistani water...
- You didn't do referendum in Kashmir...
-You supported Mukti Bahni and broke Pakistan..
- You are supporting TTP and Baloch separatists who are killing Pakistanis (Shia , particularly in Balochistan..)
-You are interfering in Afghanistan against the interests of Pakistan..
-We allow Indian channels but India has BANNED Pakistani channels in India...
-Your media continuously spew hatred against Pakistan and its people....

There are SOOOO many things more...So kindly , get to the facts. Its INDIA who is not letting friendship happen...not Pakistan.

[Ugly Jinn]

India doesn't really have to do anything, Pakistan has been destroying itself for years. India can just stand back and watch while it becomes a superpower.

Partition was a bad idea and Pakistan's history proved it.

India is projected to be world's largest economy by 2050, even surpassing USA. (only 38 years from now)
http://www.forbes.co...lcome_mjx.shtml

Edited by Ugly Jinn, 20 July 2012 - 01:12 AM.

[Auzer]

Ugly Jinn, on 20 July 2012 - 01:04 AM, said:

India doesn't really have to do anything, Pakistan has been destroying itself for years. India can just stand back and watch while it becomes a superpower.

Partition was a bad idea and Pakistan's history proved it.

India is projected to be world's largest economy by 2050, even surpassing USA. (only 38 years from now)
http://www.forbes.co...lcome_mjx.shtml

No doubt India has enormous potential... but they must form peace with Pakistan , China , and other neighbors in order to truly reach this potential .... Otherwise , its all bs........

a "superpower" India is a bit far-fetched. Only brainwashed bhartis believe so....

[Sapphire]

Oh NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!! Another hatred filled thread. May Allah(SWT) give you all peace in your hearts and you guys learn to co-exist.

[Brained]

Such a waste of time and energy.

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That India has 150 million shias

That is one of the most grossly exaggerated figures I have come across on SC. According to PEW, the total number of Shias in the world is between 150-200 million as of 2009.
http://www.pewforum....ulation(6).aspx

The maximum estimate of Shias that I have come across in India is 50 million. That too, on a small time indian news site.
http://www.dnaindia....a-women_1062327

So until every Shia in the world moves to India, your figure remains misleading.

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I wont go into exact numbers but its more than 1000 killings each Muharram.
The Govt, the Army, the Bloody honor u hve dreamt of. Is the Killer of Pakistani SHias

No please, enlighten us with the exact number of shias killed each Muharram. The number that you were given by your highly placed ultra secret sources in the Pakistani establishment.

Sigh.

I am really sorry about your cousin. But you have to realize that (and so does everyone else) that the ground-realities are different from what the media portrays.

I know I'll be attacked for saying this, but not every shia murder takes place on sectarian grounds. The media, both social and conventional, is guilty of spreading mass hysteria. A deeper dig shows that some (but not all) shia men killed (supposedly on sectarian grounds ) were either associated with or were members of political parties with a history of bloody rivalries MQM, MQM-Haqiqi, PPP etc. Other than that, many Shias killed on ethnic grounds, personal feuds or during street crimes were shown as sectarian murders. I have many family and personal acquaintances working in the media. They themselves admit to this news-twisting.

No, I am not denying that SSP/Lej are not killing Shias. But their power, their range and manpower is overstated and over-hyped. Other than their presence on the web, they have been hurt badly on the ground (nobody knows who's killing their members, they say its us). This isn't the 90s.  

Other than that, a detailed visit to a shia dominated locality will reveal that we are no fools either and that our lads too possess the power to retaliate.

Again, I am not saying the situation is not bad, but it was worse during the 90s. For every man that is killed on sectarian grounds these days, there is bound to be retaliation.

Also, it has been alleged that the establishment has had a hand in the sectarian violence. This could be true, but I believe they do so out of their own interests, and not out of hatred for any of the sects.

[Auzer]

Good post , Brained.

Pakistan holds the LARGEST Shia population in the world after Shia majority countries like Iran and Iraq....

Pakistan has MORE shia Muslims than India has....

With political stability and more literacy , Shia situation will improve further Inshallah..

[Nawab]

look, no one is personally attacking Pakistanis.We both have our problems. The fact is that however, India IS indeed alot better in religious toleration than India. Shiites there dont have to worry about  getting attacked by Wahhabi terrorists.  That is just one example.

If Pakistanis focus more on acknowledging and  addressing the problems that are being stated rather than trying to get excessively defensive and in denial, then maybe Pakistan would move forward.  

btw India has the second highest population of Shiites,NOT Pakistan

Edited by Nawab, 21 July 2012 - 12:21 PM.