Jump to content


-

Photo
- - - - -

Sisters Only


86 replies to this topic

#1 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:55 AM

Would you be offended if a guy proposed mutah marriage to you?
It aint easy being green.

#2 Parto

Parto

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 146 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:58 AM

yes.

#3 ילדת מלך

ילדת מלך

    נזיר נסיכה

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,398 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:58 AM

No,----I would be amused by it actually---

but no one can in reality----as I do not meet people or go out unaccompanied as such,

Edited by ילדת מלך, 18 July 2012 - 12:01 PM.

במרחב של הנשמה שלי, שמש וירח, בכפיפה אחת---אני נזיר הנסיכה, לוחם המשורר

Posted Image


#4 Gypsy

Gypsy

    Hal Min Nasirin Yansurna

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22,955 posts
  • Interests:Exposing hypocrisy and double standards.

Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:02 PM

Random guy on the street?

This question is not applicable to me since I'm already married.

#5 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:10 PM

Random guy on the street?

This question is not applicable to me since I'm already married.


How about before you were married?

yes.


I hope you dont mind me asking, but what are your reasons?
It aint easy being green.

#6 Noura_Shi'a

Noura_Shi'a

    ƴα Allah, ƴα Muhammed, ƴα Ali

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPip
  • 422 posts
  • Religion:Islam - Shia Ithna Ashari
  • Interests:Waking up, Studying, Working and Sleeping :)

Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:22 PM

If i knew the guy, i would ask him that why he doesnt want permanent marriage
I i dont know him, of course u would get offended :P

"Live amongst people in such a manner

that if you die, they weep over you
and if you are alive, they crave for your company.
"

                                                   - Imam Ali (a.s)


Please read: Focus on Ahlulbayt (as):
http://www.shiachat....s-on-our-imams/

#7 Parto

Parto

    Member

  • Advanced Members
  • Pip
  • 146 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:23 PM

it depends on many things, for example if it is about knowing each other before permanent marriage and it is nonsexual , then it can be OK with my father's permission.

but if it is about a guy who wants to spend time with me ( however he may claim that it would lead to permanent marriage) , I consider his mutah marriage proposal as a mean to please his sexual desire and in most of Islamic countries , a girl who is virgin, doesn't take such a risk to start a relationship which she already knows that it is not permanent.

#8 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 12:30 PM

I am also married - but pre marriage I would have been offended if any man proposed muta to me. Why not permanent marriage? Anything else is degrading
It aint easy being green.

#9 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:08 PM

I don't mind .. but the brother has to speak to my dad.. Mutah is a sunnah and it's highly recommended

by the way, why this topic ? proposing someone for mutaah ?

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#10 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:13 PM

I don't mind .. but the brother has to speak to my dad.. Mutah is a sunnah and it's highly recommended

by the way, why this topic ? proposing someone for mutaah ?


Really? I think my Dad would have probably beat the living daylights out of a guy that would have proposed muta to me or my sister

I was just discussing this with some single friends earlier and received a mixed response, curious what the opinion is on the ladies here
It aint easy being green.

#11 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:15 PM

Really? I think my Dad would have probably beat the living daylights out of a guy that would have proposed muta to me or my sister


Mutaa is looked down in the cultures these days .
It shouldn't be .. it's a sunnah .. an act that our imam's did .

Edited by -Enlightened, 18 July 2012 - 01:15 PM.

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#12 Gypsy

Gypsy

    Hal Min Nasirin Yansurna

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 22,955 posts
  • Interests:Exposing hypocrisy and double standards.

Posted 18 July 2012 - 01:16 PM

I'm more of a permanent marriage kind of girl.
But If I were a widow or a divorcée, then that would be a bit different I guess.

#13 alialiali

alialiali

    question me and you'll question your faith

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPip
  • 373 posts

Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:35 PM

Mutaa is looked down in the cultures these days .
It shouldn't be .. it's a sunnah .. an act that our imam's did .


since you said the imams (saw) did it, can you reference this plss and to what kind it was, you mentioned more then 1 imam did this? please reference this,
"the truth is with a syed from his syeds"

#14 Ismahan007

Ismahan007

    Salafis aka Islamo-fascism Are Devil Worshipers.

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 961 posts
  • Religion:Al-islam

Posted 18 July 2012 - 02:52 PM

Would you be offended if a guy proposed mutah marriage to you?

YES I will find it highly offensive. If we knew each other and he knows that I've never been married b4 and despite this asked such a question I will be offended.

Mutaa is looked down in the cultures these days .
It shouldn't be .. it's a sunnah .. an act that our imam's did .

Am sick and tired of this narrative that says 'the prophet and our imams did mutah'. NO they did not do mutah. there's no solid evidence for this except assumptions. those who say this say it based on their assumptions, they should fear Allah. its a great sin to lie or accuse the prophet and the imams of something when there's no proof they did or said it. its enough of a sin to reserve one a place in the hell fire, you have been warned sis.

#15 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 03:34 PM

YES I will find it highly offensive. If we knew each other and he knows that I've never been married b4 and despite this asked such a question I will be offended.

Am sick and tired of this narrative that says 'the prophet and our imams did mutah'. NO they did not do mutah. there's no solid evidence for this except assumptions. those who say this say it based on their assumptions, they should fear Allah. its a great sin to lie or accuse the prophet and the imams of something when there's no proof they did or said it. its enough of a sin to reserve one a place in the hell fire, you have been warned sis.


I totally agree with you, I love being a Shia but I just dont like this idea or at least the way its portrayed today of muta. When I talk to sunni girls this is the bit I struggle to defend.

I mean what would the girl possibly get out of being in muta? I understand the benefits to men but not women.
It aint easy being green.

#16 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:00 PM

since you said the imams (saw) did it, can you reference this plss and to what kind it was, you mentioned more then 1 imam did this? please reference this,


imam ali advised his companions to do it during the battle ..as far as I know..
plus, our scholars are encouraging mutaa ..

mutaa can be a solution for many of today's youth problems (if it wasn't looked down in our culture)

Edited by -Enlightened, 18 July 2012 - 04:00 PM.

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#17 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 18 July 2012 - 04:13 PM

imam ali advised his companions to do it during the battle ..as far as I know..
plus, our scholars are encouraging mutaa ..

mutaa can be a solution for many of today's youth problems (if it wasn't looked down in our culture)


But how many of our men are engaged in battle?

Perhaps it looked down on because of the seedy ways that brothers go about doing it
It aint easy being green.

#18 3laweyaZainabiya

3laweyaZainabiya

    "The Creepy Weirdo"

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,019 posts
  • Religion:Islam- Shia ithna'ashri ja'fari

Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:13 PM

Just because mutah is abused, doesn't make it haram or makrooh.

I agree with Mona. I would treat it very similarly to a permanent marriage proposal.
-Live by the Laws of God, not the rules of society .

#19 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 18 July 2012 - 08:43 PM

Just because mutah is abused, doesn't make it haram or makrooh.

I agree with Mona. I would treat it very similarly to a permanent marriage proposal.


i love how you mentioned my real name :D haha


yeah , plus doing mutaa is way better than making zina.. right ?! i mean if mutaa wasn't abused in our culture, 80% of the youth would have a halal relationship instead of doing zina behind their parents back

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#20 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:26 AM

i love how you mentioned my real name :D haha


yeah , plus doing mutaa is way better than making zina.. right ?! i mean if mutaa wasn't abused in our culture, 80% of the youth would have a halal relationship instead of doing zina behind their parents back


But the point is that it is abused in our culture, hence the hostility towards it
It aint easy being green.

#21 3laweyaZainabiya

3laweyaZainabiya

    "The Creepy Weirdo"

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,019 posts
  • Religion:Islam- Shia ithna'ashri ja'fari

Posted 19 July 2012 - 07:43 AM

i love how you mentioned my real name :D haha


yeah , plus doing mutaa is way better than making zina.. right ?! i mean if mutaa wasn't abused in our culture, 80% of the youth would have a halal relationship instead of doing zina behind their parents back


>.< lol sorry... It just happened. I can erase it if you didn't want it to be on here.
-Live by the Laws of God, not the rules of society .

#22 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:04 AM

>.< lol sorry... It just happened. I can erase it if you didn't want it to be on here.


no it's fine :)

But the point is that it is abused in our culture, hence the hostility towards it



well , you're the one making it look bad when you hate upon it ..hence, abusing it .. I mean there are different types of abusing .

Edited by -Enlightened, 19 July 2012 - 08:06 AM.

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#23 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:13 AM

no it's fine :)




well , you're the one making it look bad when you hate upon it ..hence, abusing it .. I mean there are different types of abusing .


What a ridiculous thing to say. I dont hate the original concept I just done like the way muta is implented in modern times.
It aint easy being green.

#24 -Enlightened

-Enlightened

    Alif Lam Meem❤

  • Advanced Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,325 posts
  • Religion:Monotheism
  • Interests:Reading the book of guidance

Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:33 AM

What a ridiculous thing to say. I dont hate the original concept I just done like the way muta is implented in modern times.


ok so i am confused.

you hate mutaa or you hate the way it's used among people today? ..

بَقِيَّتُ ٱللَّهِ خَيْرٌۭ لَّكُمْ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ

What remains with Allah (Baqiyatullah) is better for you if you are believers.. (Hud : 86)

וכמסתר פנים ממנו

Isaiah 53:3


Ya Aba Saleh Al-Mahdi


#25 Queen Yoda

Queen Yoda

    Member

  • Unregistered
  • PipPipPip
  • 988 posts
  • Religion:Twelver Shia

Posted 19 July 2012 - 08:51 AM

ok so i am confused.

you hate mutaa or you hate the way it's used among people today? ..


No I dont hate muta - I dont like the way it is abused by men today. I imagine that you have read the stories on how guys on here have used muta to exploit women, using it as an excuse to be promicious
It aint easy being green.



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users