Posted 06 September 2012 - 03:12 AM
"Twelve prince(s) shall [Ishmael] beget, and I shall make him a great nation." [Gen. 17:20]
But later on, The Bible actually names these twelve men and says they are the twelve sons of Ishmael:
"And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth: and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam,
And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,
Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish and Kedemah; [Gen. 25:13-15]
And right after that they make reference to the twelve princes again:
"These are the sons of Ishmael, and these are their names, by their towns, and by their castles; these are the twelve prince(s) according to their nations." [Gen. 25:16]
Well ,those well versed with both Injeel and Quraan e pak can understand it very easily.Since Allah did say that many times in the Quran that the verses are sometimes signs and these signs are enough for people who understand.So why do you people maybe jew ,christian or any Muslim start thinking all of a sudden that Mazallah Quran will be as clear and simple like ABC book.May be when you were small,you found that book too ,too complex to understand. So you must be patient and try to learn and understand.
Imam Ali(a.s) was called Ishmael by the jews of his time.They called him Ishmael as they thought and believed angel Ishmael to be the distributor of food to all mankind.When they saw Ali(a.s) giving food to many and everyday ,they laughed and called him Ishmael.So didn't Allah reveal to them in their own language.The Jews spoke that with their own mouths and now if they deny it is upto Allah to decide about them and nothing else.We should all be patient.
The first born of Ishmael how clearly is it mentioned "the first born " it clearly mentions Imamat of Imam Hasan(a.s).
Nebajoth ---- Neba is a place in between (Mecca/Medina to karbala).Joth in hebrew language means "to travel".Jothua means a traveller.So again as the first person who posted this topic has mentioned in his post that they will be known by places.Yes Imam Husain(a.s) is the one who travelled from Medina to Mecca and from Mecca to kerbala.This is a very well known fact and hence makes it very clear as to who is the Imam.A very clear sign.
Qeedar was a king who hide himself to worship Allah.This again is a sign towards Imam Zain ul Abideen(a.s) who sent food to the poor ,gave land to the rich and coins and rings to the other shia people.But he remained hidden most time of his Imamat and spent his time in Ibadat (worship) of Allah and hence title "Zain al Abideen" meaning "pride/jewel of the worshippers."This again is a very clear sign for those who wanted to understand and people did understand in those good olden days.Thanks to all those Jews who became Muslims.Alhamdolillah.
Adbeel in hebrew or aramaic language means tadbeer.Tadbeer e Mohammed ---.> Imam Mohammed Baqir(a.s)
Mibsam converts to Arabic/Persian "Meesam" meaning clear in aramaic,hebrew meaning bright,in Arabic masoom as well as bright.It clearly states a man of high intelligence,clear wisdom,a very bright person full of noor Imam Jafar as Sadiq(a.s) who was well know amongst the jews as a bright person.They did call him by different names "Qamar" meaning moon ,also "Mibsam" meaning bright.These names were called out by the jews of those times,so this time people need not argue about it as they were not present at that time.
Mishma is also called Mahishma or can be said a slang used by the then jews.Originally Mahishma means a saintly person.A saint of high honour.Imam Moosa e Kazim(a.s) was well known for his quiet nature.He did not argue or fight with anybody.Rather he kept praying and looked towards the sky even if somebody hurled abuses at him.So he was called Saint by the his neighbouring Jews who laughed and joked about him,but finally gave up calling him a saint ,a "Mishma".
Another meaning Mishma if derived from Ishma meaning wealth(khazana) in Hebrew.Here again it can be wealth of world as well as deen(religion).If Mishma is a change of Hishma which jews used to call shia muslims as descendants of Hashim.But then it won't be that clear.
Dumah or Zummah as pronounced by shias is a very sweet type of date palm fruit.Imam Ali Raza (a.s) spoke in a very sweet manner even with his enemies.Seeing his behaviour the Jews named him/called him Dumah(the sweet one).
Massa is a variation used by jews for the word "Messiah" .Mesiha in urdu.Imam Mohammed Taqi(a.s) had the habit of helping everybody irrespective of the person's faith.So he was called "Messiah" or "Massa" by the jews who never spoke clearly but spoke in slangs and didn't Allah speak to them in their own language.
Hedar meaning lion.also a brave man,an intelligent warrior.The people who witnessed the event of Khaibar called Ali(a.s) a lion.Hedar or Haidar was then generally used to call somebody Ali.Since Imam Ali Naqi(a.s) was much like Moula Ali(a.s), and his name too Ali,the jews called him Haidar ,the same which they used ti call Imam Ali(a.s).
Tema again is used for a general reference to any Imam possessing the quality of distibuting taam meaning distributing food.Although the word "tema" is used by jews for a person appointed by a king to distribute food.
Jetur in Hebrew and other Aramaic languages means "Fatah" meaning victorius.Imam Hasan Askari(a.s) as a youth got never subdued by anybody in a fight.Hence the jews who fought with him in his boyish age lost to him and called him Jetur the victorius.
Naphish and Qadeema referring to the qualities of our very very nice Imam in ghaib,Imam Mehdi(a.s).
Naphish in hebrew meaning Nafees meaning a very sophisticated person.Qadeema as pronounced by jews mostly adding "a" to every word.Qadeema here refers to Qadeem.
Ya Moula(a.s) Adrikni