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[Noah107]

This is a very serious taboo topic!
I have many Muslim male friends and each of them has admitted to me that they enter their mutah prostitutes where they are not sopposed to that is forbidden by Allah SWT specifically by Allah in the Holy Quraan. I find these men to be complete transgressors and hypocrites. Now I have told them this is wrong but obviously they dont listen
How do you tell someone to stop doing this!  what can I say to them to convince them if the same guys do mutahs with prostitutes and say it is not ok with wife but ok with mutah prostitutes!   they claim that the Quraan only  specifically forbids it with ones wife not prostitutes!  
How do you fight, argue against such friends???
I need some good arguments please.  

[Against oneself]

you have a lot of drama in your life!! i pray for you.

[Goku]

Mutah is hallal, it isn't prostitution.

Edited by Goku, 11 July 2012 - 06:56 PM.

[ImAli]

Against oneself, on 11 July 2012 - 06:50 PM, said:

you have a lot of drama in your life!! i pray for you.

He is like the male version of mahdiyah

[Noah107]

ImAli, on 11 July 2012 - 07:10 PM, said:

He is like the male version of mahdiyah

Ah sweet ImAli, this forum is what it is because of you
My life is indeed full of drama.  There is no mistaking that.

Goku, on 11 July 2012 - 06:56 PM, said:

Mutah is hallal, it isn't prostitution.

I havent checked to see if your a women so will say only a  little
the question is not about mutah prostitutes; it is about where not to enter any women. Be it mutah or not.

[Ricky-Dee]

You know Noah, i dont blame you for your attitude , bec if i was a Christian turn Sunni then found this website, i would think the exact same thing too. Its a shame the mods havent kicked out these guys who constantly talk about mut3a with prostitutes etc etc etc

Oh well, other then that, your good at trolling, ill hand that to you. But unfortunately you wont last long

lol sorry bro

[Noah107]

Ricky-Dee, on 11 July 2012 - 07:26 PM, said:

You know Noah, i dont blame you for your attitude , bec if i was a Christian turn Sunni then found this website, i would think the exact same thing too. Its a shame the mods havent kicked out these guys who constantly talk about mut3a with prostitutes etc etc etc

Oh well, other then that, your good at trolling, ill hand that to you. But unfortunately you wont last long

lol sorry bro

Ricky Dee bro :-)
I am no troll,  quite the opposite.  I am a muslim who wants answers to taboo subjects that a part of every muslims life but not talked about! bringing things to the forefront forces discussion and through discussion comes enlightenment and the true path. We are all on here to assist eachother and help eachother be better Muslims. That should be  farz on all muslims.

it is 1:40am UK time.
me going nite nite to Land of Nod
wifey gonna tuck me in then give me glass of hot milk to drink- muslim women are goooood
an english women would have made me get her a glass of hot milk instead lol

Edited by Noah107, 11 July 2012 - 07:44 PM.

[Haydar Karrar]

Mut'a can't be done with a woman "known" for prostitution....like a pro at it.
But in itself it is halal but it is a very sensitive matter...

Women who do Mut'a should not be referred to as prostitutes....Mut'a is halal and sometimes recommended depending on the situation...maybe even obligatory in some extreme cases.

People who don't "enter" their wives but do Mut'a are wrong...if you have a wife and she isn't really old or sick and she is capable of "entering"....then there would be no sense in doing Mut'a. One must "enter" the wife.

The "friends" mentioned in your post clearly have no knowledge of Qur'an and intimacy in Islam...

I could not understand their claim....what do they claim is not okay with wife but it is in Mut'a??? Please clarify.

[Noah107]

Haydar Karrar, on 11 July 2012 - 07:44 PM, said:

Mut'a can't be done with a woman "known" for prostitution....like a pro at it.
But in itself it is halal but it is a very sensitive matter..
they are doing this with a REAL  english prostitute who works the streets and gets paid -it is her profession.
Women who do Mut'a should not be referred to as prostitutes....Mut'a is halal and sometimes recommended depending on the situation...maybe even obligatory in some extreme cases. They go to REAL english pros

People who don't "enter" their wives but do Mut'a are wrong...if you have a wife and she isn't really old or sick and she is capable of "entering"....then there would be no sense in doing Mut'a. One must "enter" the wife question is about entering anally as wrong. I didnt mention the A word because it is haraam, distasteful and crude but since many are getting confused i have to mention it. anal sex with any women I thought was wrong in islam. mutah or not, wife or not????

The "friends" mentioned in your post clearly have no knowledge of Qur'an and intimacy in Islam..Yes i agree. they say anal is ok with mutah and english prostitutes BUT NOT WITH WIFE as QURAAN only prohibits it againt wife not OTHER WOMEN??????

I could not understand their claim....what do they claim is not okay with wife but it is in Mut'a??? Please clarify.

Edited by Noah107, 11 July 2012 - 07:52 PM.

[Haydar Karrar]

Entering from the back is not allowed if the wife says no....if she agrees it is makruh (disliked).....if they go to English prostitutes hook them up with one who has aids...haha

[Noah107]

Haydar Karrar, on 11 July 2012 - 07:56 PM, said:

Entering from the back is not allowed if the wife says no....if she agrees it is makruh (disliked).....if they go to English prostitutes hook them up with one who has aids...haha

brother haydar,  now are we bending what the Quraan says!  Allah  SWT Specifically says  ENTER UR WIFE DIFFERENT WAYS BUT  DON'T DO IT FROM BEHIND!
so we humans say OK Allah,  WE WILL NOT ENTER WIFE FROM BEHIND BUT OTHER WOMEN ARE FAIR GAME FROM BEHIND !

...and your interpretation could lead many men to forcing their wifes to agree under duress , emotional blackmail(if you dont agree to anal i'll go elsewhere) etc.
Allah has forbidden it for a reason-  isnt anal the best way to get AIDS!   ... and even If these muslim guys go to prostitutes a nd do anal wont they be getting aids and other diseases and passing them to their wifes?  AIDs particularly is sumat u dont wanna pass onto the maother of ur children.

[Haydar Karrar]

Noah107, on 11 July 2012 - 08:03 PM, said:

brother haydar,  now are we bending what the Quraan says!  Allah  SWT Specifically says  ENTER UR WIFE DIFFERENT WAYS BUT  DON'T DO IT FROM BEHIND!
so we humans say OK Allah,  WE WILL NOT ENTER WIFE FROM BEHIND BUT OTHER WOMEN ARE FAIR GAME FROM BEHIND !

...and your interpretation could lead many men to forcing their wifes to agree under duress , emotional blackmail(if you dont agree to anal i'll go elsewhere) etc.
Allah has forbidden it for a reason-  isnt anal the best way to get AIDS!   ... and even If these muslim guys go to prostitutes a nd do anal wont they be getting aids and other diseases and passing them to their wifes?  AIDs particularly is sumat u dont wanna pass onto the maother of ur children.

1--the prophet (saww) and Imams(as) know more about the Quran than us...read their Hadith and yes the scholars do differ in their opinions on entering from the back....some sy completely forbidden...others say disliked (extremely).....it depends on which scholar you
follow and which views and interpretations you accept...although you are right, it has been referred to as disgusting and like the animals...I believe instead of being completely forbidden it is extremely disliked.

2--it was a joke.....if you want them to stop and talking hasn't worked, show them Hadith and lecture them...if that doesn't work have a scholar talk to them about Mut'a with prostitutes and it being forbidden...lf that doesn't work pray for them.....remember you can't help those Allah (swt) has blinded and those who don't want your help.

[Goku]

Muta isn't always about sex...

You can do Muta of just talking with one another in private such as getting to know one another before marriage. Only people like will associate Muta with prostitution and sex.