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A Question To Muslims, Jang-e-jamal!

Who was right???

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#1 Ameen

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:23 PM

A question to Muslims [Jang-e-Jamal] the battle of the camals another bitter piece of history who is RIGHT and who was WRONG?? Or were both right??

Does this question even exist about who was right and who was wrong, when one was the rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims and the other party hand no kind of authority what so ever, which would clearly make them terrorists because they used violence to have their voice heard and their demands met???

First of all listen up folks! I am just putting history in front of you and just asking you a simple question.What is wrong with that?.Are we not aloud to discuss  history?.Discussing something or asking a question or putting your point of view forward or distinguishing between right and wrong or pointing out what has been said or done is wrong,does this cause division? NO!.

Some body who has a status or is special and they say or do something or if they are involved in/or part of something which is wrong, capable of criticism and you point out that [with all due respect] this person is wrong or you criticise them, does this cause division? NO!

.Should all this be upsetting? No it should not be. What causes division and what is upsetting is some of you people out there not being civilised and understanding about it. Not excepting that your brother/sister is different than you. Calling your brother/sister KAFIR and looking for silly excuses to justify it. False allegations/accusations and swearing etc this is what causes division and this is what is upsetting. Now keep your hair on your heads and your shirts on yourself and be civilised and understanding. This is not about SUNNI or a SHIA but infact it's about the TRUTH! Now what i am going to say is surely my point of view.You don't have to agree with it, you don't have to Accept it, but at least be civilised about it. All i expect is your point of view in a civilised manner, a decent discussion, a defensive debate based on sense and logic. Is that too much to ask for?

Now the question, Hazrath Ali [ra] the fourth rightfully selected Khalif of the Muslims. It is stated that anybody who disagrees or goes against the Khalif regardless of who he is, Hazrath Abubakar, Umar, Usman or Ali [raa] is considered as an OUTLAW. Hazrath Aisha [ra] went to war against the fourth rightly guided Khalif. This is called [Jang-e-Jamal] known as the war of the camals. What was the purpose of this war with the fourth rightly guided Khalif of the Muslims??? Putting a demand forward about capturing and bringing Hazrath Usmaan's [ra] killers to justice. Is this the way forward if demands are not met??? Use means of violence and threatening behaviour, if your demands are not met???

Anyways! Now surely somebody was seriously on the wrong here!.Listen i have just mentioned a fact and then the incident so there is no need to get carried away.Thousands of lives were lost in this war. Looking at both individuals, one not only a companion of the Prophet [pbuh] but also a member of the household of the Prophet [pbuh] and the fourth rightfully selected Khalif of the Muslims, [including Hazrath Aisha [ra]. On the other hand we have one of the wives of the Prophet [pbuh].

Would it be fair to say they were both right? come on thousands of lives were lost here!. Lets look at this with sense and logic. Lets also bring facts and reality into this which can not be denied or ignored. First fact allready been mentioned, Hazrath Ali [ra] the fourth rightfully selected Khalif, also a very trusted companion of the Prophet [pbuh], also a member of [Ashra-e Mobashira] meaning, the top ten companions named by the Prophet [pbuh], also a member of [Ahlul-Baith] meaning, the household of the Prophet [pbuh].

Second fact allready mentioned anybody who disagrees/goes against/challenges any rightfully selected Khalif is considered an OUTLAW!. Third fact the Prophet's [pbuh] hadith [saying] one of my wives will leave her place as a house wife, will sit on a camal and go to war with Ali [ra]. She will reach a specific place and the dogs of that place will bark at her and there will be no doubt that she will be on the wrong. Listen i am not saying this, it's an hadith [saying] of the Prophet [pbuh]. I have approached all three scholars, sunni/shia/wahabi they do not deny this. NOW YOU DECIDE! ONE IS RIGHT AND ONE IS SEVERLY WRONG.

#2 Seekingtruth14

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Posted 11 July 2012 - 04:32 PM

Salam brother Ameen!

Thanks for sharing this information!!

I admire you for your work, your wonderful efforts to spread the truth and your strong will to be in service for Ahlubayt (as).

don’t forget me in your prayers!!

May Allah (swt) strengthen us to follow the path that belongs to the Blessed ones (as) [Quran 1: 6] this verse is recited ten times every day by Muslim world wide in their prayers, who are the Blessed ones? The Blessed ones are Ahlulbayt (as)
Ten times Every day in our prayer we say:
“Guide us to the straight Path, The Path who belongs to the ones whom You have Blessed” [1:6-7]

We pray to Allah (swt) to guide us to follow the path of the Blessed ones. By Allah, who are the Blessed ones??? Isn’t the Blessed ones Mohammed (S) and his beloved Household ?

“I am leaving for you two precious Elements that if you adhere to both of them you will never go astray after me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful has informed me that These two shall not separate from each other till they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)."
-Prophet Mohammed (S)



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