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[Muaddib]

[gogiison2]

I have this book: http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/0964890909

[:Sami]

the whole medical cabal (mafia) industry is that of suffering and death for profit only.
May our :Imam . on his return strike this parasitical cabal and all it's agents , drug dealers (doctors) and associated killers of humanity down.
And replace it with wellness , long life and  disease free humanity .
:Allahu-Akbar. ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì.

[Chaotic Muslem]

all or none sort of thinking is bad for health , it is a cognitive distortion , a pre made template , you do think you thought about it but the throught is you have just filled a pre made template of thinking
it just makes you less happy

[:Sami]

My happiness is with my :Rasool .
My sadness is with :Imam-Hussian(as) on the plains of :Karbala.
My awaiting is with my :Imam-al -Hujjat. .
My life , all of it is with :Allah ÓÈÍÇäå æÊÚÇáì. and nothing is of this :Dunya.

[Chaotic Muslem]

:Sami, on 06 July 2012 - 12:27 AM, said:

My happiness is with my :Rasool .
My sadness is with :Imam-Hussian(as) on the plains of :Karbala.
My awaiting is with my :Imam-al -Hujjat. .
My life , all of it is with :Allah سبحانه وتعالى. and nothing is of this :Dunya.

Imam Ali said "من هتنت عليه نفسه فلا تأمن شره"
he who has no self respect -low self esteem-  he is not to be trusted ( to expect his evil-mischief -)
also in the hadiths , imams said "أبى الله أن يجري الأمور إلا بأسبابها"  Allah made things run with causes (rough translations)

to go through this life with an open eyes , imam sadiq said " العارف بزمانه لا تلبس عليه اللوابس"
he who is aware of his era -time- issues will not be confused

i think it is fair for shia who want to build their spirtuality based on love and reason rather than some emotional reactions towrds the world around them , it is fair for them to learn few things about how their self functions and reacts

[:Sami]

Chaotic Muslem, on 06 July 2012 - 01:30 AM, said:

Imam Ali said "من هتنت عليه نفسه فلا تأمن شره"
he who has no self respect -low self esteem-  he is not to be trusted ( to expect his evil-mischief -)
also in the hadiths , imams said "أبى الله أن يجري الأمور إلا بأسبابها"  Allah made things run with causes (rough translations)

to go through this life with an open eyes , imam sadiq said " العارف بزمانه لا تلبس عليه اللوابس"
he who is aware of his era -time- issues will not be confused

i think it is fair for shia who want to build their spirtuality based on love and reason rather than some emotional reactions towrds the world around them , it is fair for them to learn few things about how their self functions and reacts

and how is all this relevant when you don't exist ?

[Chaotic Muslem]

:Sami, on 06 July 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

and how is all this relevant when you don't exist ?

well pal i dont follow estoic philosophies , i do exist

[:Sami]

Chaotic Muslem, on 06 July 2012 - 02:06 AM, said:

well pal i dont follow estoic philosophies , i do exist

where ?
here in cyberspace?
you are just an electronic logarithm .
an account , a member .
corporate fiction entity .
you don't breathe , eat , sleep , love , think,
you are dead .
you are soul less .

[Pascal]

"In 2006, a documentary film also called Psychiatry: An Industry of Death was released on DVD by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights."

"The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is an advocacy group established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology. The CCHR continues to be entirely controlled by and subject to policy directives issued from the Church of Scientology. The group is headquartered in Los Angeles, California."

"The group has implied that the September 11 attacks were influenced by psychiatrists. Hubbard claimed .psychiatrists caused decline in the universe eons ago."

Riiiiight....

Psychiatry has done some bad things in the past, no doubt. It's not like it's some evil secret cabal to ruin humanity though. All medical fields make mistakes or had wrong ideas or cures, the important thing is we've moved on from things like lobotomies that aren't really needed. Many psychiatric drugs are overprescribed but theres no doubt the field helps people with serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia, unless you can come up with another way to treat these people? Same with depression. Some people get into a depression so bad their actual movement slows down. Many of the suicides every year are thought to come from untreated depression, these people are in such a bad place that the only way they can see to get out of it is to kill themselves. So, surely in a situation like this, its not like medication can make it any worse. Sometimes it saves lives.

Edited by kingpomba, 07 July 2012 - 04:55 AM.

[:Sami]

kingpomba, on 07 July 2012 - 04:44 AM, said:

"In 2006, a documentary film also called Psychiatry: An Industry of Death was released on DVD by the Citizens Commission on Human Rights."

"The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is an advocacy group established in 1969 by the Church of Scientology. The CCHR continues to be entirely controlled by and subject to policy directives issued from the Church of Scientology. The group is headquartered in Los Angeles, California."

"The group has implied that the September 11 attacks were influenced by psychiatrists. Hubbard claimed .psychiatrists caused decline in the universe eons ago."

Riiiiight....

Psychiatry has done some bad things in the past, no doubt. It's not like it's some evil secret cabal to ruin humanity though. All medical fields make mistakes or had wrong ideas or cures, the important thing is we've moved on from things like lobotomies that aren't really needed. Many psychiatric drugs are overprescribed but theres no doubt the field helps people with serious mental illnesses like schizophrenia, unless you can come up with another way to treat these people? Same with depression. Some people get into a depression so bad their actual movement slows down. Many of the suicides every year are thought to come from untreated depression, these people are in such a bad place that the only way they can see to get out of it is to kill themselves. So, surely in a situation like this, its not like medication can make it any worse. Sometimes it saves lives.

it's business .
Like all businesses , it's there to maximise profit .
maximum suffering
equals maximum profits.
maximum disease maximises bottom line.
simple maths mate .
these multi-nationals are not interested in anything else .

[Ya Aba 3abdillah]

gogiison2, on 04 July 2012 - 05:26 PM, said:

I have this book: http://www.amazon.co...n/dp/0964890909

Worth a read? I've got this one http://www.amazon.co...ring depression

[No body]

:Sami, on 06 July 2012 - 01:47 AM, said:

and how is all this relevant when you don't exist ?

Actually its not just about just philosophy, Alan turning ( the reason you have computers today)to prove godels theorem made the computer , what they were getting at  thru maths was whether we can know if we have a free will or not ie are we a simulation of a simulation of a simulation thinking that we are thinking, conclusion thru rational thinking we will never know
I know brother sami is on a totally different level, I can relate to him a bit tho…I got into this like 10-15 years ago and it drove me mad, like I am a full blown skitzo…only recently did I try take medication …anyways this whole thing is weird because they diagnose you based on what you tell them, I just went to the doc and told him that I have all the symptoms of a skitzo, he got me on medication and I think after 2 weeks or so it became hell, colors we fading music had no meaning, it was pure hell…..was the first time I prayed to the Imam and he saved me….i still have all the symptoms of a skitzo but I am fine with it.

these people have no idea what they are meddling with, they are only in it for the money...actually there is more to that but hell who would believe it

[:Sami]

No body, on 07 July 2012 - 07:23 AM, said:

Actually its not just about just philosophy, Alan turning ( the reason you have computers today)to prove godels theorem made the computer , what they were getting at  thru maths was whether we can know if we have a free will or not ie are we a simulation of a simulation of a simulation thinking that we are thinking, conclusion thru rational thinking we will never know
I know brother sami is on a totally different level, I can relate to him a bit tho…I got into this like 10-15 years ago and it drove me mad, like I am a full blown skitzo…only recently did I try take medication …anyways this whole thing is weird because they diagnose you based on what you tell them, I just went to the doc and told him that I have all the symptoms of a skitzo, he got me on medication and I think after 2 weeks or so it became hell, colors we fading music had no meaning, it was pure hell…..was the first time I prayed to the Imam and he saved me….i still have all the symptoms of a skitzo but I am fine with it.

these people have no idea what they are meddling with, they are only in it for the money...actually there is more to that but hell who would believe it

please do tell brother/sister .
by the way i'm not a skitzo, yes I am , no I'm not , yes . no yes .no ......

[No body]

lol man i have such strange theories, according to those theories the real world already ended and we are living in a digital simulation, the reason for the digital simulation is that the forces that let this world come to end realised that it was a means of thier existence too, so they had this digital simulation to trace the source of thier being.
might make sense to you
its all about angels and demons trying to figure out where thier orders come from!
its like blind following the blind untill they reach the dead end

Edited by No body, 07 July 2012 - 09:01 AM.

[:Sami]

No body, on 07 July 2012 - 09:00 AM, said:

lol man i have such strange theories, according to those theories the real world already ended and we are living in a digital simulation, the reason for the digital simulation is that the forces that let this world come to end realised that it was a means of thier existence too, so they had this digital simulation to trace the source of thier being.
might make sense to you
its all about angels and demons trying to figure out where thier orders come from!
its like blind following the blind untill they reach the dead end

i think that hasn't happened yet , but it will happen one day .
we are talking of post human era.
there was many :Adams before our timeline and many to come after .

Edited by :Sami, 07 July 2012 - 09:03 AM.

[No body]

The world ended in karbala
where are the humans? its all programmed AI
I am in Hell and Dua e Kumail is my only refuge

Edited by No body, 07 July 2012 - 09:11 AM.

[:Sami]

No body, on 07 July 2012 - 09:05 AM, said:

The world ended in karbala
where are the humans? its all programmed AI
I am in Hell and Dua e Kumail is my only refuge

And what about :Al-Mahdi. .?

[No body]

there is only one true reality and that is Maula Ali...see now ask language what is real- reality and it tells you re Ali ty
when you call his name in hell the fires are made to cool down.

[:Sami]

No body, on 07 July 2012 - 09:24 AM, said:

there is only one true reality and that is Maula Ali...see now ask language what is real- reality and it tells you re Ali ty
when you call his name in hell the fires are made to cool down.

you should contribute to my other old beaten up post
Who's want out .
It'll be interesting

[gogiison2]

Ya Aba 3abdillah, on 07 July 2012 - 06:25 AM, said:

Worth a read? I've got this one http://www.amazon.co...ring+depression

It's still on my bookshelf; I have yet to read it. It was a recommendation from a book club that I was subscribed to. And it was a natural health book club, so I figure that it is definitely worth checking out.