Salam Alaykoum,
I wonder if it is allowed for a Shi'i man to marry a divorced Sunni woman? The Sunnis don't have witnesses when they divorce and mostely they divorce for the law. Of course they have their 3 months 'Idah period of divorce, but I don't know if the divorce is in order? Does anybody has more info about this issue?
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Marriage Between Sunni And Shi'i
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, Jul 02 2012 05:51 AM
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:12 AM
Wa alikum alsalam,
Yeah, he can.
- باب ان من اعتقد شيئا لزمه حكمه وجاز الحكم عليه به.
[33077] 1 - محمد بن الحسن باسناده عن علي بن الحسن بن فضال، عن السندي ابن محمد، عن علاء بن رزين، عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (عليه السلام) قال: سألته عن الاحكام قال: تجوز (1) على أهل كل ذي دين بما يستحلون.
[33078] 2 - وباسناده عن الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة، عن عبد الله بن جبلة، عن عدة (1)، عن علي بن أبي حمزة، عن أبي الحسن عليه السلام أنه قال: ألزموهم بما ألزموا (به) (2) أنفسهم.
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Yeah, he can.
- باب ان من اعتقد شيئا لزمه حكمه وجاز الحكم عليه به.
[33077] 1 - محمد بن الحسن باسناده عن علي بن الحسن بن فضال، عن السندي ابن محمد، عن علاء بن رزين، عن محمد بن مسلم، عن أبي جعفر (عليه السلام) قال: سألته عن الاحكام قال: تجوز (1) على أهل كل ذي دين بما يستحلون.
[33078] 2 - وباسناده عن الحسن بن محمد بن سماعة، عن عبد الله بن جبلة، عن عدة (1)، عن علي بن أبي حمزة، عن أبي الحسن عليه السلام أنه قال: ألزموهم بما ألزموا (به) (2) أنفسهم.
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أللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّد وَآلِهِ وَمَتِّعْنِي بِالاقْتِصَادِ، وَاجْعَلْنِي مِنْ أَهْلِ السَّدَادِ، وَمِنْ أَدِلَّةِ الرَّشَادِ، وَمِنْ صَالِحِي الْعِبَادِ، وَارْزُقْنِي فَوْزَ الْمَعَادِ، وَسَلاَمَةَ الْمِرْصَادِ. أللَّهُمَّ خُذْ لِنَفْسِكَ مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُخَلِّصُهَـا، وَأَبْق لِنَفْسِي مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُصْلِحُهَا فَإنَّ نَفْسِي هَالِكَةٌ أَوْ تَعْصِمَهَا. أَللَّهُمَّ أَنْتَ عُدَّتِي إنْ حَزَنْتُ، وَأَنْتَ مُنْتَجَعِي إنْ حُرِمْتُ، وَبِكَ استِغَاثَتِي إنْ كَرِثْتُ، وَعِنْدَكَ مِمَّا فَاتَ خَلَفٌ، وَلِمَا فَسَدَ صَلاَحٌ، وَفِيمَا أنْكَرْتَ تَغْييرٌ. فَامْنُنْ عَلَيَّ قَبْلَ الْبَلاءِ بِالْعَافِيَةِ، وَقَبْلَ الطَّلَبِ بِالْجِدةِ، وَقَبْلَ الضَّلاَلِ بِالرَّشَادِ، وَاكْفِنِي مَؤُونَةَ مَعَرَّةِ الْعِبَادِ، وَهَبْ لِيْ أَمْنَ يَوْمِ الْمَعَادِ، وَامْنَحنِي حُسْنَ الارْشَادِ.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 06:46 AM
You are welcome.
It called LAW OF ILZAM (Qanoon-e-Ilzam)
I think it would be better to read about it on this link:
http://www.al-shia.o...?id=1431&page=4
If you couldn't understand anything about it, tell me please, so I can explain it.
It called LAW OF ILZAM (Qanoon-e-Ilzam)
I think it would be better to read about it on this link:
http://www.al-shia.o...?id=1431&page=4
If you couldn't understand anything about it, tell me please, so I can explain it.
Edited by Zahra1, 02 July 2012 - 06:48 AM.
أللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّد وَآلِهِ وَمَتِّعْنِي بِالاقْتِصَادِ، وَاجْعَلْنِي مِنْ أَهْلِ السَّدَادِ، وَمِنْ أَدِلَّةِ الرَّشَادِ، وَمِنْ صَالِحِي الْعِبَادِ، وَارْزُقْنِي فَوْزَ الْمَعَادِ، وَسَلاَمَةَ الْمِرْصَادِ. أللَّهُمَّ خُذْ لِنَفْسِكَ مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُخَلِّصُهَـا، وَأَبْق لِنَفْسِي مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُصْلِحُهَا فَإنَّ نَفْسِي هَالِكَةٌ أَوْ تَعْصِمَهَا. أَللَّهُمَّ أَنْتَ عُدَّتِي إنْ حَزَنْتُ، وَأَنْتَ مُنْتَجَعِي إنْ حُرِمْتُ، وَبِكَ استِغَاثَتِي إنْ كَرِثْتُ، وَعِنْدَكَ مِمَّا فَاتَ خَلَفٌ، وَلِمَا فَسَدَ صَلاَحٌ، وَفِيمَا أنْكَرْتَ تَغْييرٌ. فَامْنُنْ عَلَيَّ قَبْلَ الْبَلاءِ بِالْعَافِيَةِ، وَقَبْلَ الطَّلَبِ بِالْجِدةِ، وَقَبْلَ الضَّلاَلِ بِالرَّشَادِ، وَاكْفِنِي مَؤُونَةَ مَعَرَّةِ الْعِبَادِ، وَهَبْ لِيْ أَمْنَ يَوْمِ الْمَعَادِ، وَامْنَحنِي حُسْنَ الارْشَادِ.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:10 AM
Jazzak Allahu Khayr Zahra! But now another question 
Can women divorce their husbands according to the Sunni schools of thought? Because what I know is that if the woman wants to divorce her husband (both Sunni) then she just do it for the law.
Can women divorce their husbands according to the Sunni schools of thought? Because what I know is that if the woman wants to divorce her husband (both Sunni) then she just do it for the law.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 08:38 AM
أللَّهُمَّ صَلِّ عَلَى مُحَمَّد وَآلِهِ وَمَتِّعْنِي بِالاقْتِصَادِ، وَاجْعَلْنِي مِنْ أَهْلِ السَّدَادِ، وَمِنْ أَدِلَّةِ الرَّشَادِ، وَمِنْ صَالِحِي الْعِبَادِ، وَارْزُقْنِي فَوْزَ الْمَعَادِ، وَسَلاَمَةَ الْمِرْصَادِ. أللَّهُمَّ خُذْ لِنَفْسِكَ مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُخَلِّصُهَـا، وَأَبْق لِنَفْسِي مِنْ نَفْسِي مَـا يُصْلِحُهَا فَإنَّ نَفْسِي هَالِكَةٌ أَوْ تَعْصِمَهَا. أَللَّهُمَّ أَنْتَ عُدَّتِي إنْ حَزَنْتُ، وَأَنْتَ مُنْتَجَعِي إنْ حُرِمْتُ، وَبِكَ استِغَاثَتِي إنْ كَرِثْتُ، وَعِنْدَكَ مِمَّا فَاتَ خَلَفٌ، وَلِمَا فَسَدَ صَلاَحٌ، وَفِيمَا أنْكَرْتَ تَغْييرٌ. فَامْنُنْ عَلَيَّ قَبْلَ الْبَلاءِ بِالْعَافِيَةِ، وَقَبْلَ الطَّلَبِ بِالْجِدةِ، وَقَبْلَ الضَّلاَلِ بِالرَّشَادِ، وَاكْفِنِي مَؤُونَةَ مَعَرَّةِ الْعِبَادِ، وَهَبْ لِيْ أَمْنَ يَوْمِ الْمَعَادِ، وَامْنَحنِي حُسْنَ الارْشَادِ.
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Posted 02 July 2012 - 09:39 AM
Salams,
My understanding that I draw from hadith from Ahlu Bayt a.s. is that it is not just about marriage but any kind of relationships with those who have not accepted the Wilayat. Again, I have a ton of hadith on different aspects of this... not just one or two, that confirm the same reality. So if these hadith upset your belief in any way, please, refer it to the Ahlu Bayt a.s.
The Commander of the Believers said:
'If one worships Allah between Rukn and Maqaam (of Ibrahim) and fasts every single day of their entire existence without believing in our Wilayat, they will not benefit in any way'.
(The Glad Tidings of Mustafa... Tabari, g 402, #30)
As part of a longer tradition, Imam Baqir said:
'Everyone who is obedient to Allah, the Great and Almighty, in worship in which they exert effort, but do not have an Imam appointed by Allah, their deeds are unacceptable and they are astray and bewildered. Allah detests their deeds. Such a peson is like a sheep that has strayed away from its flock and runsi n this and that direction the whole day.
By Allah! The one who wakes up in this community without having an Imam appointed by Allah the Great and Almighty, who is manifest and just, wakes up astray and lost. If such a peson dies in this condition, they die the death of unbelief and hypocricy.
Know that the unjust Imams and their followers have been expelled from the religion of Allah. They are misguided and they misguide. So the deeds that they perform are like ashes blown awy by a storng wind on a stormy day. They have no power over what they have earned ~ That is the far error.
Indeed the Imams of the Progeny of the Prophet Mohammad must be known. That is because they are the custodians of the revelation and the trustees of the Apostle of Allah and his Successors in leadershilp over his community'.
(The Life of Imam Mohammad al Baqir ~ Qarashi)
This second hadith is found in several other sources ~ as is this whole concept of the status of those who declined the Divine Appointment of Leadership of Imammat.
The Messenger of Allah said:
'Do not go against Ali by accepting the command of anyone else because this is Kufr to Allah. Do not elevate anyone above Ali because if you do you are an apostate (one who turns away from Islam)
(The Glad Tidings of Mustafa for the Shia of Ali pg 65, #110 and Amali of tusi 1:153)
In spite of popular belief, the Ahlu Bayt a.s. has told us how to even deal with those who abandoned or denied Imammat and certainly marriage is a very close relationship and one should consider carefully who they want to be married to and that person perhaps raising their children.
My understanding that I draw from hadith from Ahlu Bayt a.s. is that it is not just about marriage but any kind of relationships with those who have not accepted the Wilayat. Again, I have a ton of hadith on different aspects of this... not just one or two, that confirm the same reality. So if these hadith upset your belief in any way, please, refer it to the Ahlu Bayt a.s.
The Commander of the Believers said:
'If one worships Allah between Rukn and Maqaam (of Ibrahim) and fasts every single day of their entire existence without believing in our Wilayat, they will not benefit in any way'.
(The Glad Tidings of Mustafa... Tabari, g 402, #30)
As part of a longer tradition, Imam Baqir said:
'Everyone who is obedient to Allah, the Great and Almighty, in worship in which they exert effort, but do not have an Imam appointed by Allah, their deeds are unacceptable and they are astray and bewildered. Allah detests their deeds. Such a peson is like a sheep that has strayed away from its flock and runsi n this and that direction the whole day.
By Allah! The one who wakes up in this community without having an Imam appointed by Allah the Great and Almighty, who is manifest and just, wakes up astray and lost. If such a peson dies in this condition, they die the death of unbelief and hypocricy.
Know that the unjust Imams and their followers have been expelled from the religion of Allah. They are misguided and they misguide. So the deeds that they perform are like ashes blown awy by a storng wind on a stormy day. They have no power over what they have earned ~ That is the far error.
Indeed the Imams of the Progeny of the Prophet Mohammad must be known. That is because they are the custodians of the revelation and the trustees of the Apostle of Allah and his Successors in leadershilp over his community'.
(The Life of Imam Mohammad al Baqir ~ Qarashi)
This second hadith is found in several other sources ~ as is this whole concept of the status of those who declined the Divine Appointment of Leadership of Imammat.
The Messenger of Allah said:
'Do not go against Ali by accepting the command of anyone else because this is Kufr to Allah. Do not elevate anyone above Ali because if you do you are an apostate (one who turns away from Islam)
(The Glad Tidings of Mustafa for the Shia of Ali pg 65, #110 and Amali of tusi 1:153)
In spite of popular belief, the Ahlu Bayt a.s. has told us how to even deal with those who abandoned or denied Imammat and certainly marriage is a very close relationship and one should consider carefully who they want to be married to and that person perhaps raising their children.
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