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#1 Saviour

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 02:34 PM

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So i have had this question for a while and I have never known. So in ghusl of jannabat if you perform the tartibi method, You first wash your head and neck and then body (preferably right side and then left).

So my question is that In the shower when your washing your head and neck water obviously touches the skin and the body.

So does that water also clean the body at the same time while you are washing the head? or after washing the head you need completely new water to wash your body.

If the second one, how do you not get confused if the water is from washing the head and neck or the new water that has been sprayed on you while you are washing your body.

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:15 PM

So i have had this question for a while and I have never known. So in ghusl of jannabat if you perform the tartibi method, You first wash your head and neck and then body (preferably right side and then left).

Yes-same in any wajib ghussl.

So my question is that In the shower when your washing your head and neck water obviously touches the skin and the body.

Yes.

So does that water also clean the body at the same time while you are washing the head?or after washing the head you need completely new water to wash your body.

By clean you mean tahir-ing? If yes, it's fine if it does. Tartibi just means that you start with the head and neck then the rest (not the other way around)**, even if while washing the head and neck the water reaches elsewhere. No, you don't need new water. After making sure it washed the head and neck completely, then do the right and left, even if while doing each side water splashes on the other side it does not matter.

If the second one, how do you not get confused if the water is from washing the head and neck or the new water that has been sprayed on you while you are washing your body.

Luckily it's not the second.. complication removed.


**Messing up the tartibi and need to redo is when for example: you wash head and neck then body, then once you're done you realize there was a drop of say paint or band-aid on your forehead, you can't just at the end wash that off and be done because like this you would have done the body properly then the head, this voids tartibi.
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#3 Abu Hadi

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 03:51 PM

All marajaa have a section on ghusl in their resalat. You should consult that first, then if you have more questions, you can post.

From what I know, when you do the niyyat of ghusl janabat, then you have to start washing sequentially (head, neck, right side, left side) after the niyyat. It doesn't matter if you are completely soaked with water before the niyyat of ghusl or dry.

Edited by Abu Hadi, 20 June 2012 - 03:53 PM.

Hadith #32.

With my continuous chain of transmission reaching up to Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulaynl, from al-Husayn ibn Muhammad, from al-Mu'alla ibn Muhammad, from al-Hasan ibn 'All al-Washsha', from 'Abd Allah ibn Sinan, from Abu 'Abd Allah, may Peace be upon him, which he said:

"Among the things pertaining to the soundness of a Muslim's certitude [in faith] is that he would not please people while displeasing God, nor blame them for something that God has not given him. For, verily, [God's] rizq (provision, sustenance) is not brought about by anybody's greed, nor is it withheld by anyone's disapproval, and were anyone of you to flee from his rizq like he flees death, his rizq would overtake him in the way he is overtaken by death." Then he added, "Indeed Allah with His justice and fairness, has put joy and comfort in certainty (yaqin) and satisfaction (al- rida) and He has put sorrow and grief in doubt and dissatisfaction."

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Posted 20 June 2012 - 05:48 PM

By clean you mean tahir-ing? If yes, it's fine if it does. Tartibi just means that you start with the head and neck then the rest (not the other way around)**, even if while washing the head and neck the water reaches elsewhere. No, you don't need new water. After making sure it washed the head and neck completely, then do the right and left, even if while doing each side water splashes on the other side it does not matter.


So, just to make sure, say im washing my head and neck and water spalshes on my elbow after i finish washing my head and neck, when i move onto wash my body will i need to wash that part of the elbow which the water landed on or will it already be tahir?


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Posted 21 June 2012 - 08:08 PM

^Still wash the elbow even if water splashed on it from when you were washing the head and neck..because what if the water slashed there while you were washing your head but not your neck yet, if you leave the elbow not washed afterwards this means you messed the tartibi and did head then elbow (when splashed and not washed when it was it's turn), then neck and body...
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