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Khomeini's Fatwa

Started by Rafedi , May 27 2012 01:54 AM

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#1 Rafedi

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 01:54 AM

And there we go again. The well-known fatwa of Khomeini:

لا يجوز وطء الزوجة قبل إكمال تسع سنين، دواماً كان النكاح أو منقطعا ، وأما سائر الاستمتاعات كالمس بشهوة والضم والتفخيذ فلا بأس بها حتى في الرضيعة "

Is this not against Fitrah and why is it allowed? Can someone explain this for me.

Edited by Rafedi, 27 May 2012 - 02:47 AM.

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Posted 27 May 2012 - 02:44 AM

Rafedi, on 27 May 2012 - 01:54 AM, said:

And there we go again. The well-known fatwa of Khomeini:

يجوز وطء الزوجة قبل إكمال تسع سنين دواما كان النكاح أو منقطعا ، وأما سائر الاستمتاعات كالمس بشهوة والضم والتفخيذ فلا بأس بها حتى في الرضيعة "

Is this not against Fitrah and why is it allowed? Can someone explain this for me.

Can you please translate it, or at least give some details as what is being issued by Khomeini?

Imam Ja`far as-Sadiq [a] said:

"For everything there is weighing and measuring except tears. One tear drop can extinguish oceans of fire. If the eyes flood with tears, the face will not suffer hardship and humiliation. When tears flow out, Allah forbids them from the Fire. And if a person weeps in a nation, such nation will receive favors."

(al-Kafi, Volume 2, hadith 3113)

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:44 AM

A Man is not allowed to have intercourse with his wife, until she turns 9 years, whether temporary or permanent marriage. Other acts are actually allowed (then he gives some examples) even if the girl is still little.

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Posted 28 May 2012 - 07:57 AM

This has been discussed many times. Here is a detailed thread about it:
http://www.shiachat....marriage-fatwa/

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Posted 29 May 2012 - 04:41 PM

Replicant, on 28 May 2012 - 07:57 AM, said:

This has been discussed many times. Here is a detailed thread about it:
http://www.shiachat....marriage-fatwa/

would you be so kind to give us a summary of what khomeini really wanted with this fatwa?
skimming through 20 pages is a bit too much i'm affraid

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 06:38 AM

R a f i d i, on 29 May 2012 - 04:41 PM, said:

would you be so kind to give us a summary of what khomeini really wanted with this fatwa?
skimming through 20 pages is a bit too much i'm affraid

It is not about what Khomeini wanted. This is a Fiqh aspect and all the Islamic schools agree on this fatwa (as far as I know). What I wanted to know the reason why our Shar' allowed it. And can Fiqh be in contradiction with fitrah? It is confusing. :wacko:

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Posted 30 May 2012 - 10:33 AM

Rafedi, on 30 May 2012 - 06:38 AM, said:

It is not about what Khomeini wanted. This is a Fiqh aspect and all the Islamic schools agree on this fatwa (as far as I know). What I wanted to know the reason why our Shar' allowed it. And can Fiqh be in contradiction with fitrah? It is confusing. :wacko:

that's a heck of a fatwa to have unanimous agreement upon! :mellow: