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#1 Ricky-Dee

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:25 PM

Lebanese Shiites kidnapped in Syria: official


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BEIRUT, Lebanon — Rebels in northern Syria kidnapped a group of Lebanese Shiite Muslims in Aleppo province on Tuesday as they were headed home by bus from a pilgrimage in Iran, Lebanese authorities said.


Reports of the kidnappings prompted families of those abducted, along with thousands of supporters, to gather in Beirut's mainly Shiite southern suburbs to demand their release.


The protesters closed down several roads, including the old airport road, with burning tyres and garbage bins. The roads were reopened later in the evening.


Lebanon's state news agency put the number of those abducted at 13 while Syrian media said an "armed terrorist gang" had kidnapped 11 Lebanese and their Syrian driver.


Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah urged restraint and said his Shiite militant party was doing its utmost to ensure the safe release of the men.


"I call on everyone to show restraint," Nasrallah said in an address carried on the party's Al-Manar television station. "It is not acceptable for anyone to block roads or carry out violent acts."


Nasrallah said contacts were underway with Syrian authorities and other countries in the region for a quick resolution.


"We will work day and night until those beloved are back with us and hopefully ... by cooperating together we will reach a happy ending," he said.


Nasrallah said Hezbollah was also in contact with Prime Minister Najib Mikati, whose government is dominated by the powerful militant group allied with the regime in Syria.


"The Lebanese state and government have a responsibility to work toward the release of those kidnapped," he said.


Nasrallah urged his followers not to carry out revenge attacks against Syrians in Lebanon.


Syrian state media said the kidnapping took place near the town of Aazaz, which sits along the border with Turkey. State news agency SANA said the men were part of a group of 53 pilgrims on two buses.


Activists in Aleppo reached by AFP via Skype said Aazaz was undergoing fierce shelling Tuesday evening by regime forces who stormed the town.


The brother of one of those kidnapped said the rebel Free Syrian Army seeking to topple the regime of Bashar al-Assad had vowed to release the men in exchange for FSA members detained by Syrian authorities.


Mikati's office said he was making the necessary contacts to ensure the release of the Lebanese abducted.


"Prime Minister Mikati has urged families of the kidnapped to remain calm and assured them he was following the issue closely to ensure the safety of those kidnapped and their quick release," a statement said.


One man who refused to give his name said his two bothers-in-law were among those abducted.


"They were heading back to Beirut ... after visiting religious sites in Iran," said the man. "The women who were with them were allowed to go free."


The brother of Abbas Shaayb, who organised the pilgrimage, said the women were staying in a hotel in Aleppo pending their return to Lebanon.


"Let's see what the friends of the Free Syrian Army in Lebanon are going to do now," said the man, referring to the Sunni-led opposition in Lebanon that has backed the 14-month uprising in neighbouring Syria.


The reported kidnappings were likely to further inflame sectarian tensions in Lebanon over the Syrian crisis.


Clashes between the pro- and anti-Assad camps in the country have left some 12 people dead in the past 10 days.


Nasrallah said it was necessary for all Lebanese to remain calm.


"The atmosphere is tense because of the events of recent days," he said. "Everyone is urged not to make matters worse."


Ex-premier Saad Hariri, who heads the opposition in Lebanon, denounced the kidnapping and called for the men's immediate release.


"We condemn the kidnapping of our Lebanese brothers in Syria, regardless of the party behind the kidnapping, and we call for their immediate release," he said in a statement.


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I wonder where all the FSA is now. All their backers, their supporters up north.


whats the reason for kidnapping old women ?


Anyone who supports the uprising in Syria and the monkeys in Tripoli are clearly Zionist Arabs, terrorists, scum, kids of Abu Sufyan and Yazid (they are a gay couple)


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#2 south-lebanon

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 06:39 PM

The [edited] are trying to get the shia's involved because their uprising is going nowhere, Israel is now breathing a new found form of life.


woman that was aboard the bus arriving in Beirut airport


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:52 PM

fake kidnapping russia and iran are behind this with assad.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

fake kidnapping russia and iran are behind this with assad.


Why do they gain from it lol??????????

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:28 PM

fake kidnapping russia and iran are behind this with assad.

At first thry said it was them who kidnapped because they want to exchange prisoners. A couple of hours later i think they realized the deep sh*t they got themselves in, so they denied it.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:44 PM

It seems that a series of things are hitting Lebanese to push them to actively join the Syrian war in their own country. Those behind these events may wish a Shia/Alawit - Sunni conflict.

Thanks to the latest speech of Hizb's leader who rejected any words of confrontation. And it seems that even Harriri who has a very low understanding of the politics sensed the danger of these traps.

Syrian government is the only party who needs to take action and free Lebanese citizens who were legally visiting the country and are kidnapped by armed terrorists.

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Ma ahl-e Kufa nistim Assad tanha bemanad!


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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:49 PM

Shias are also to blame. Why go to ziyara to iran by bus when there are problems in syria. Go by plane! And ir u cant afford it, delay the ziyara im sure imam ali reda wont be dissappointed

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 09:59 PM

^^^

Some people are heavy in their faith. They dont care and are not intimidated. If they get kidnapped so be it, their death is their destiny, where better to die then during izyara lol

thats my theory

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:03 PM

Why do they gain from it lol??????????


If one of Al Assads own children is killed, god forbid, his, or anyone's child, they will say Al Assad did it. These guys are a terrorist joke, they originally asked for reforms, Al assad's implementing reforms, thats not enough, what they want, is what Israel wants, a puppet government.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 12:18 AM

If one of Al Assads own children is killed, god forbid, his, or anyone's child, they will say Al Assad did it. These guys are a terrorist joke, they originally asked for reforms, Al assad's implementing reforms, thats not enough, what they want, is what Israel wants, a puppet government.


The Assad's have a long history of inner fighting from within.

He won't kill his own children, but I bet Assef Shawqat's recent death was an inside job. Some even think that his brother's death in a "car accident" was an inside job.

Look at even his relatives in exile, like Rifaat Assad. They have long had power struggles and some distrust of each other over fears of "coups" being plotted.

They do kill their own people... look at Ghazi Kanaan for example. Another top regime official liquidated to save the core :)

I think Lebanese in general should avoid Syria, especially Shiites. Going there is Russian Roulette right now. I don't know why anyone in the right mind would go to Syria, period. Very dangerous place, and the Free Syrian Army types are going to assume that any Shia Lebanese in Syria is fighting for the Assad regime.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 12:33 AM

^ Is he dead, is it official?
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 01:31 AM

^ Is he dead, is it official?


I don't know how "official" something out of Syria can get.

The rebels claimed they killed him, Abdul Khaddam claims he is dead. He hasn't been heard from.

I don't expect an announcement anytime soon on SANA, so really, I suppose nobody can be certain at this point.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 07:47 AM

Any updates on those kidnapped?

It is narrated that Imam al-Husayn (as) said:


“Oh Allah, I have left the entire world for the sake of You, And I have orphaned my children so that I be with You. So if I am cut into pieces for the love of You, my heart would lean to none other than You.”


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:11 AM

^^^

Some people are heavy in their faith. They dont care and are not intimidated. If they get kidnapped so be it, their death is their destiny, where better to die then during izyara lol

thats my theory


Brother, this is a wrong mentality. Our Imams(a.s) did not do that. The main reason that the Imams after Imam Hussein(a.s) did not directly make a revolution against the corrupt Umayyed and then Abbasid Rulers was to preserve the lives and property of the mumin. Also, why did they do taqiyya ?
Were they afraid of the Abbasids ? No. the reason they did it was to preserve the mumin because the lives and property of mumin are sacred and to waste them is israf (extravegance). If you want to do battle, you must do it intelligently, strategically, and under the guidance of the Imam(a.s). That is the only way to do it.

May Allah(s.w.a) help those who were kidnapped and return them to their families unharmed. Min Al Rahmatika Ya Ar HamuRahimeen. Wa Salalahu Ala Muhammad Wa Ahlehe At Tahireen.

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Hadith #32.

With my continuous chain of transmission reaching up to Muhammad ibn Ya'qub al-Kulaynl, from al-Husayn ibn Muhammad, from al-Mu'alla ibn Muhammad, from al-Hasan ibn 'All al-Washsha', from 'Abd Allah ibn Sinan, from Abu 'Abd Allah, may Peace be upon him, which he said:

"Among the things pertaining to the soundness of a Muslim's certitude [in faith] is that he would not please people while displeasing God, nor blame them for something that God has not given him. For, verily, [God's] rizq (provision, sustenance) is not brought about by anybody's greed, nor is it withheld by anyone's disapproval, and were anyone of you to flee from his rizq like he flees death, his rizq would overtake him in the way he is overtaken by death." Then he added, "Indeed Allah with His justice and fairness, has put joy and comfort in certainty (yaqin) and satisfaction (al- rida) and He has put sorrow and grief in doubt and dissatisfaction."

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:28 AM

Any updates on those kidnapped?


This is the latest from almanar;


Lebanese Foreign Minister Adnan Mansour said Wednesday that a group of Lebanese citizens kidnapped in Syria would be freed "within hours."
“I received a call on (Tuesday) evening from an Arab dignitary telling me that the contacts he had made revealed the whereabouts of the abductees and that they will be released in the coming hours,” Mansour told al-Jadeed local news network.

Inshallah this is the case.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:33 AM

^^^

Some people are heavy in their faith. They dont care and are not intimidated. If they get kidnapped so be it, their death is their destiny, where better to die then during izyara lol

thats my theory

Please man, spare me with the heavy faith. There is something called heavy brain that Allah gave each person which says go by plane not bus if they cant delay the ziyara to imam ali rida amd they will pop if they dont

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

Latest news:

Breaking Headlines LBC

Is zionist-salafi axis continues its war against those that stand firmly in their path

3 Lebanese pilgrims killed as their bus passed through the West of Baghdad


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

lollll

ok ok ok im getting pounded.

Maybe you guys are right.

But that being said if you had the chance to visit karbala during ashura and you knew there was a high chance of dying would you still go ?

Seriously guys, i understand 110% what you guys are saying, and its correct, Allah knows what each persons intentions are, and its not like your a wimp if you dont go

But some poeple seriously DO NOT CARE, and being the hard headed lebs that we are, alot went , not caring if something happens to them or not. Some DO care and decided to take their chances, but got un lucky i guess

Either way a question i pose is if they died would it be considered a shahids death ? and if it is wouldnt it be a noble thing ?

Im not saying that you guys are wrong, wallah im not, im just saying it isnt a one way street, some people feel differently to others.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:40 AM

Latest news:

Breaking Headlines LBC

Is zionist-salafi axis continues its war against those that stand firmly in their path

3 Lebanese pilgrims killed as their bus passed through the West of Baghdad




I agree with those who say someone is trying to suck lebanon into this...

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:41 AM

I agree with those who say someone is trying to suck lebanon into this...


Even though its western Baghdad it was still probably AlAssad's regime that did it.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:45 AM

Even though its western Baghdad it was still probably AlAssad's regime that did it.


Let us see what type of theory one of the many alter egos of Justice4all will come up with LOL

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:49 AM

Yeah well , let them kill as many shia as they want. Esp Lebanese who have nothing to do with it. Let the world see and opinions change.

Day by day they are losing their battle and becoming desperate. They are their own enemy

Israel is going to cop it sweet for this, wait n see

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:50 AM

It is significant that it happened in Western Iraq, Has someone decided that the time is ripe for a regional shia-sunni war.
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Posted 23 May 2012 - 08:55 AM

lollll

ok ok ok im getting pounded.

Maybe you guys are right.

But that being said if you had the chance to visit karbala during ashura and you knew there was a high chance of dying would you still go ?

Seriously guys, i understand 110% what you guys are saying, and its correct, Allah knows what each persons intentions are, and its not like your a wimp if you dont go

But some poeple seriously DO NOT CARE, and being the hard headed lebs that we are, alot went , not caring if something happens to them or not. Some DO care and decided to take their chances, but got un lucky i guess

Either way a question i pose is if they died would it be considered a shahids death ? and if it is wouldnt it be a noble thing ?

Im not saying that you guys are wrong, wallah im not, im just saying it isnt a one way street, some people feel differently to others.

Lsn in the old days a time came were if a person was walking with a lost hand itnwas a sign that he visited imam hussein. But now there is a difference, there is bus and there is plane. Brain tells u go by plane.

Now u never know maybe not going to the ziyara would make u benefit the islamic ummah more than going and dying wa Allah a3lam...

Iraq is different u go by plane u land there ok there is a risk u die.
But not going by bus into syria which there is 99% u grt caught by salafis.


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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:04 AM

Lsn in the old days a time came were if a person was walking with a lost hand itnwas a sign that he visited imam hussein. But now there is a difference, there is bus and there is plane. Brain tells u go by plane.

Now u never know maybe not going to the ziyara would make u benefit the islamic ummah more than going and dying wa Allah a3lam...

Iraq is different u go by plane u land there ok there is a risk u die.
But not going by bus into syria which there is 99% u grt caught by salafis.


Brother im with you 100% but not everyone can afford planes.

Come on dude, some people simply CANNOT afford it. They take their chances on a bus not caring. At the end of the day, its a good cause, so who cares, is their mentality !!!

People were going to IRaq via bus during the US occupation , while Zarqawi was blowing up Shia left right n center, they didnt have any issues. Even now people still go to Sitna Zeinab, but they just dont stay there for a week like the old days. The way these people see it is they will travel through and Inshallah they make it back alive.

Why is that so hard to comprehend ?



Syrian rebels deny it was behind kidnap of Shia pilgrims

Syrian troops have shelled the rebel bastion of Rastan and killed at least six people across the country, monitors said, as the rebel Free Syrian Army denied it was behind the kidnapping of Lebanese Shia pilgrims.





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Regime forces pounded Rastan, home to a large number of rebel fighters in central Syria, at an average rate of "one shell a minute," theSyrian Observatory for Human Rights said.


Most of Rastan's residents have fled after months of fighting, but regime forces have been unable to regain control of the town. On May 14, 23 regular troops were killed in fighting during a failed assault.


Six people were also killed across Syria, the Observatory said, including three in a blast on the international airport road in the suburbs of Damascus, in the latest sign of increasing violence in the Syrian capital.


Other blasts were heard in several Syrian provinces on Tuesday night, including in Harasta and Douma, two suburbs of Damascus that have seen fierce fighting between regime and rebel forces in past days.


A total of 26 people, including 14 civilians and 12 soldiers, were killed in violence on Tuesday, the Observatory said, adding that Syrian forces carried out a spate of raids in Damascus overnight.



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The raging violence in Syria took a broader turn in the region after Lebanon's state news agency said Syrian rebels kidnapped 13 Lebanese Shiite Muslims as they were headed home by bus from a pilgrimage in Iran.

Lebanese Foreign Minister Adnan Mansur said Wednesday that the pilgrims were abducted by "a splinter group of the armed Syrian opposition", but added he expected their release "within hours."

"According to information provided by an Arab country those kidnapped will be free within hours," Mansur told Al-Jadeed, a private satellite television station.

The Free Syrian Army, which wants to overthrow President Bashar al-Assad's regime, strongly denied abducting the Lebanese pilgrims.

"The FSA is not at all responsible for the operation," Mustafa al-Sheikh, a high-ranking FSA officer, told AFP by telephone from Istanbul.

"This is an attempt to distort the image of the FSA. The FSA does not believe in this methodology," said Sheikh, the head of the group's military council.

Sheikh said the Syrian regime "treats the FSA as a scapegoat. We condemn this abduction, which does not represent the values of the (Syrian) revolution."

The kidnapping "is no doubt the work of the regime, which wants to sow chaos in the region," Sheikh added.

Syria's main opposition coalition also issued a call for the prompt release of the group, adding that it too believed the Syrian regime could be involved in the kidnapping.

The Syrian National Council "does not think it is impossible that the regime is involved in this operation," in order to sow "disorder" in neighbouring Lebanon, the group said.

But Lebanese women pilgrims who arrived in Beirut early on Wednesday said the kidnappers presented themselves as belonging to the FSA. "They terrorised us," said one of them.

The case has triggered fears of sectarian tensions in Lebanon over the revolt in neighbouring Syria.

The news prompted their families and thousands of supporters to pour out into the streets of Beirut's mainly Shiite southern suburbs on Tuesday night to demand their release.

Protesters blocked several roads, including the old airport road, with burning tyres and garbage bins.

Lebanese Shiite leader Hassan Nasrallah, a strong ally of the embattled regime in Damascus, appealed for calm and said his Shiite militant party was doing its utmost to ensure the safe release of the men.

"I call on everyone to show restraint," Nasrallah said in a televised speech.

Nasrallah said contacts were underway with Syrian authorities and other countries in the region for a quick resolution. "We will work day and night until those beloved are back with us," he vowed.

Lebanon's northern Akkar region has also seen protests this week after the weekend killings of two clerics at an army checkpoint in Akkar, a mainly Sunni region whose inhabitants are hostile to Assad.

The killings ignited street battles in the capital Beirut on Monday that left two people dead and 18 wounded.

Saudi King Abdullah on Tuesday voiced fear over the Sunni community in Lebanon and urged action to avert a sectarian strife resulting from a spillover of the Syria conflict.

The kingdom "follows with deep concerns the developments ... especially the targeting of one of the main sects of Lebanon," he said in reference to co-religionist Sunnis, the Saudi state news agency SPA reported.

He urged Lebanese President Michel Sleiman to act "due to the gravity of the crisis and its potential to escalate into a sectarian conflict in Lebanon, dragging it back into the spectre of civil war."

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